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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar?

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Posted: 12-29-04 18:29pm


I think lying is just something unique to the person.. I mean some bipolar may lie.. Some may not.. I don't think being bipolar necessarily means you lie and vice versa.

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Lying Posted: 01-04-05 14:51pm


My son who is 11 is bipolar and we've recently been having major problems with him lying a lot. He will look me in the eye and lie about the dumbest things. Grades, what he spends his lunch money on (junk food or healthy school lunch), doing homework, etc. I can have the proof right in front of him, or his teacher on the phone etc. And he will still stick to his lie even though he is caught. Talking to his psychiatrist about it, he said lying is a symptom of bipolar disorder. :shock:

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Lying Posted: 01-07-05 12:57pm


I just found out I was bi-polar last december and it was a relief to find out exactly what was wrong with me. I have always felt different and I have found that I have told "lies" to people to enhance a story I was telling so I wouldn't look boring, or when I thought I was talking to someone who I was inferior to and I would bore them with a "regular" story. I must do this because I feel inferior and I have to embelelish stories. I h ave found that I will believe myself when I have told a "lie" or a certain version of a story. I hate to admit it--but it is true about myself, I don't want to di this anymore--but I live with a roommate (female and oi am female) who also is bi-polar and she does the same thing about "lies" or telling stories. I have no insurance and cannot afford to keep going to my psychiatrist and cannot afford my meds anymore. I only got to go to therapy for 3 months before I lost my insurance. I don't know enough about my diagnosis to see if this trait can be stopped or not--but I do not like it about myself. Just thought I would add my story on here..Thanks for listening!

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Wha Wha What I Am Not Alone Here Yeah Posted: 01-18-05 03:10am


I am looking at this post and reading replies and am like qwoo hoo I am not the only one. I don't particularly lie but I can't control what I say sometimes. Its like blah blah blah whoops that slipped out. My hubby teases me cause I talk non-stop and half the stuff that appears is nonsensical. I mean yeah I lie but no more than anyone else in this world.....But far less than a compulsive liar.

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So How Do U Tell If Someone Is Bypolar Or Has This? Posted: 01-23-05 21:35pm


How do you go about finding out if a love one has the by polar disorder? My son has always given me answeres such as: I dont know, nothing and misc answeres when I use to ask him what he did in school.. He finally gradurated high school in 02... He lost a good job..Earlier that spring.. For not having a recipt in his pocket for a drink he was drinking.. They gave him a choice to leave or to be fired..Of course he didnt know what to do so he left.. A few days later we as parents discoved he lost his job.. We as parents did everything to get his job back.. (but in his eyes..He seem he didnt care)..He finally got another job because I was in costco asking how to be a floor sampler.. And the lady was nice enought to give me a name and number.. So I took it home and my son called and got the job.. Everything was great for a while.. After christmas his hours got cut big time.. At least thats what he said.. We found out later he told his boss he was too tired to work and need more time to rest.. He only worked 10- 4pm.. 2 days aweek..But she had cut him down to 1 and sometimes 0..But what it was is he was staying up all night playing computor games on the internet.. Hes like totally hooked on this dang computor games.This is all he cares about.. Anyway he had a friend that got him hooked up with ups.. So thats where he is now.. And u know during christmas they are really busy..Right.. My son was only working 3 to 4 days per week.. The same old stuff that happen at cosco was like happening here.. Not enough work..Mom unable to pay his bills.. He isnt cable of taking and doing this bill stuff unless I give him the bill and say do it now..Brain fog or something.. Or doesnt care..Im totally dont know.. After christmas I thought he was going to work every day.. I only show on my calender one day he didnt go.. Well.. I was wrong..And the only reason I found out is because he was sick..Very sick.. Which I have posted on the colon board.. When I called to leave a message on his bosses phone , I recieved a call back from him saying my son has only been to work one day out of the 05 year.. Which this was hard for me to belive when I know that he has been going somewhere.. We we (mom and step dad) sit down with him..And dad got it out of him..He says he was in too much pain to go to work and that he would pull over into a parking lot and go to sleep.. So this explains why he has no money to pay his car insurance, cell phone and rent.. By the way his r ent.. Is the cable bill.. I so desperitly want to get my son on the right track.. But hes not willing to work with me.. Or so it seems... He is a good kid..He doesnt drink... Had a girlfriend but she left him for another guy and then came back begging and he said no.. Which was right after christmas..And I told him..No dont let her come back... My son lives at home.. He goes to work when he did.. Comes home plays games and use to go to his second partime job and work and then come home and play game until like 4 am.. No matter how hard we tell him to go to bed at midnight..We still catch him up on his computor.. Its kinda like this... He hears what we say.. And says ok I will...But it seems like it goes in one ear and out the other side.. You ask him a question about his check on fridays..The answere I hear is I forgot.. How the heck can someone forget there pay check.. He has a hot rod mustang! That he bought and paid for himself.. He had to have this car.. But he doesnt wash it or wax it ..He doesnt vacuum it.. We have to remind him to check the oil and water.. All the time.. I really dont know where to turn.. Should I tell his doctor when my sons not there that there is a problem.. And not sure what it is.. My son is now 21 fixing to be 22.. He seems to care about nothing but his computor and the internet games that he has to pay for to play..Its like hes addicted to it.. I am a totally frustrated mom.. My son has his own insurance though his company.. And even though I am his mom ..I dont have the legal right because of his age.. I forgot what they call that.. I think it is power of attornoy..Which I guess I need to be since he doesnt seem how to manage anything without my help.. I dont believe my son can function on his own with a step by step insturction.. He manages to do his job at work..Unloading trucks.. But he leaves to get to work 30 before when its a easy 45 drive.. How would I know if he is by polar or just totally depressed.. I am a totally lost mom.. I have no clue as to what is going on.. And no my son doesnt do drugs.. He doesnt even have any friends.. They kinda out grew him.. His friends that outgrew him are the ones he wants to stay away from because he says they do drugs and is wild and crazy.. He has lived a sheltered life.. So if any one can give me some advice.. That might help me help him.. It would be greatly appreciated.. Thanks teresa

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Blue4me....... Posted: 01-23-05 22:21pm


Hey hun. Sounds like you have your hands full. You can not go to the doctors and tell them what the deal is. He is of age. As a parent you do have legal rights to fight for his medical stuff. To me it sounds like hes just lazy. I hate to say that but I am not going to hold my tounge on that matter. If he is not willing to get help for himself and you feel that he is in danger of hurting himself fight to gain medical control over him. I hate to say it, but sometimes you have to do the tough love. Give him a time limit to get himself together and push him out onm his own. I don't mean to be a b*tch but this is what my mother-in-law is dealing with and I tell her the same thing. Only in her situation he has a child and can't get along with the mother of that baby but they are "still together". I'm young but I have much experience with life. I am bipolar 2, acute ocd and severe depression. At 19 I was pregnant and came home to mom for help. We (my now husband) stayed with her for about a year before she came to the end of supporting us and said you pay this and do this or your out. It forced us to be adults, and trust me when mom is willing to take care of you, of course your going to take advantage. Its more comfortable. My gramma-in-law had the same issue with my sis-in-law. She was married with 2 kids at 17 and gramma let the kids sleep there but told her and hubby nope, find your own place and they stayed in a car for 6 months. They came to take care of the kids during the day and the children had a safe place to sleep at night. After that 6 months they have had a place now for over a year. I really don't think its a mood disorder I think its plain lazy. Maybe depression......But again unless you feel he is a danger to himself there isn't much you can do. I wish you the best of luck and hope you find some answers in my ramblings.

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Doesnt Everyone Lie a Little? Posted: 01-26-05 18:14pm


Hi im new here, but not new to bipolar. Have been bp since "87". First id like to thank pitterpatter for this posting you have answered a question I never understood. Personally I think everyone has lied at one time or another but I may be wrong. Sure i'll admit I lie occasionally but for the post part im tend to be truthful, too truthful actually ticks me off at times. However my daughter who also happens to be bipolar has lied to me so often I often doubt what she tells me is the truth. I thought I just didnt do a very good job raising her. Thanks I feel better now that her lying is very possibily due to the bipolar. So after reading this posting i'd now feel lying can be a symptom but not always. How interesting, kind of opens up a whole new outlook. Good subject!!!! Rani

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4: Blue4me Posted: 03-28-05 08:02am


What you said about your son sounds exactly like my sister. My sister has adhd; she cant hold down a job, she is very messy, and disorganized. My parents tell her to do something she will say "ok" and wont do a thing just like it goes through one ear out the other. So maybe it could be your son has add or adhd.

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Lying Posted: 03-29-05 15:58pm


Lying is part of bi-polar disorder. When you are hypomanic or manic you believe what you are saying or have no control over what you are saying but to others around you obviously you are lying. Most bi-polar sufferers will when hypomanic or manic do things like spend a lot of money on irrelevant crap and will tell stories which are not based on fact ie lies. It is a very fortunate bipolar sufferer who does not spend and is honest when suffering an episode! I don't lie at all when I am well in fact I over compensate in terms of honesty and tend to punish myself for things I have done when unwell but I am realistic enough to be aware of what I have done when I have been unwell and it includes lying about all kinds of things. The most important thing with bipolar is to find medication which helps and seek out some counselling or therapy to assist dealing with the emotional implications of the illness. The aftermath of what you have said is always difficult

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to Pitterpatter Posted: 04-12-05 12:12pm


My boyfriend is bipolar and lying isnt one of his normal symptoms. Now, with that said when he wasn't taking his medicine he would claim to head of the company he worked for, but you must understand in his mind he thought that he was. Believing that one is president or hold a higherr postion than what they do is one of the symptoms, and if this person is really your friend you would read up on bipolar disorder because it seems like you're just assuming. Just my opinion......

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Looking For An Answer Not the Truth Posted: 05-19-05 23:27pm


Lieing is not a symptom of bipolar disorder, that is left to the individual. Everyone lies so don't blame it on the illness. That is like saying someone eats because they have high blood pressure. I have been diagnosed bipolar I for six years, I lie as often I do in a different state of mind than I do when I am normal. Everyone lies, everyone. I agree with a previous post-- people tend to blame an illness more than the individual responsible. Maybe you should read something on the subject rather than posing a question you had a predetermined unchangable opinion about.

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Re: Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 07-14-05 00:14am


Im bipolar and some times I will catch my self lieing and I dont meen to and my two sisters are bipolar and they lie to they dont meen to they say there sorry but it is true sorry to most bipolar people out there for this but we do lie alot it just happends.

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I'm Understand Posted: 08-01-05 08:41am


I understand exactly what you are saying. It is a horrible thing to live with. I do not feel sorry for myself, it really just angers me off. I like to have energy and be a positive person. I try to shoot in the right direction most of the time. When I feel this crap coming on, I do very bad things. I spend too much money on nothing, I want to leave my partner, I move just for something new, to be in a different environment. Then when I come off of this "whatever it is" I wonder why I did all of it. I am a smart person with a great personality. My family thinks I am so mental because of the things I do, spare of the moment. I wish I had a solution.

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Lying Is a Bi-polar Trait Posted: 08-13-05 14:34pm


Yes, lying is a trait of bi-polar. Bi-polar is very complex with many components. Hypersexuality, extrvagance, etc., etc. Lying is on the list as well. My wife, who is bi-polar can tell some believable ones and it is scary. And worse, she can lie to herself and believe it it seems. If you will research it, bi-polars often lie to keep themselves at the center of something and to maintain control. My wife for example, must always be in control or at least believe she is. Her doctors told me this was a condition and trait of her being bi-polar. This brings into focus the next question. Can a bi-polar be trusted? Good luck

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I Do Not Know/ Think a Bipolar Can Be Trusted In Sometimes, Posted: 08-13-05 22:19pm


Now the hairs on my arms are sticking up, scary. I fell in love with this guy, now who he is, I am not even sure once in the car, he said, I am the greatest liar ever, and that scared me so much, he was dead on serious, I felt like I was in some sick movie. No, wake up, this is your life shanti, and you have to be careful, ( I thought to myself) he always wanted me to tell him everythign about me and I wanted like wise, for if I am going to tell my thoughts, secrets i want yours too, well he would not have it, double standards. He would want to read my emails, I had nothing to hide, but I still did not like that feeling, as if he wanted to control me he did not like the idea of me having some privacy in that respect. In some things, for you should have to be the judge, that perhaps not all of what a bipolar says is true. Yes, anyone can lie, I just wonder if people who lie more, or have certain patterns of lieing, would that fall into the population of bipolars,? Who knows, I just know all of you are helping me immensly, and I will forever be grateful bless us all

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New Here Posted: 08-19-05 00:49am


Just was dx'ed with bipolar type 2 and ptsd. I finally came clean, to myself, I as lying to myself, and others around me. I lied when I was depressed and in bed for days sometimes weeks, I would say I was sick, with the flu or something. I dint want anyone to know I was contmeplating suicide. I would lie about money, borrowing form my mother b/c I spent too much or something. But that is my own personal expereince, and I believe everyone lies to a certain extent each day, whether little or huge. We are all human, and no one is perfect. I dont think it is just bipolar, but probably comes with the territory. My personal beleif, people who tell big lies or lie alot are usually hurting more than you think, but doesnt mean to excuse their behavior. Anywhoooo, it is rainy here, crappy today. Does anyone know anything about lactimal? This is the med they put me on. So far I feel like I am in some other life or something, it is very weird. Having a hard time with this med thing, and feeling so level, or even keeled, dont know how to describe it really.

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Posted: 08-23-05 11:24am


My boyfriends mother is bi-polar and lying along with severe stretching of the truth was a major problem. She was just recently diagnosed and put on medication, shes been great! Shed lie about stupid things... My boyfriend is in the service, hes been in training... She would tell everyone he was going to iraq, although he was never told he was going. When I first started dating my boyfriend, he didnt call me one night. I called his house the next morning, about 10 times, to see if he was there... He wasnt. Finally when nathan got home, his mom told him that she was the one calling me all morning, to find out where he was. This was a lie of course... And she was lying even though she knew I would tell nathan the truth... It was like she just couldn't help herself those are just some examples, but now that she is on medication, she doesnt lie anymore.

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Lieing And Bipolor Posted: 08-24-05 00:31am


Well from my experience, and bipolor runs in my family, at least one in every generation for the last 4. Yes lieing is part of it and so is anger. Mostly it's caused by the brain working over drive, comes out before we can stop it.

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He Was a Liar Posted: 08-26-05 23:12pm


My bp ex-boyfriend did the same to me. Told me that I was a liar and forgot things a lot. He use to blame me for everything. He was a big liar. Never kept his promises and changed his mind a lot. He would say that he would call but never did. I do not know if false truths was a part of the disease but I know that I could not keep up with him. So you are not by yourself.

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Hey All! Plz Help Me! Posted: 08-26-05 23:46pm


I have a ?! Ummm. I'm bipolar and I forget things alot and I like just I dont know.My bf does not understand what im going through as in bipolar how can I help to tell him what it is?He does not understand at all.He yells at me all the time and it hurts me so much.I just dont know.