Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 11-26-05 06:40am
First, those who have been bipolar for 10
years are 10 year olds. I been bipolar
for 43 years but only diagnosed for about
5.
Next, you may care to reread your 10 year
pamplet and look for the word delusional
and overwhelming confusion.
Last, i'm very happy that you are handle
this illness so well. We should all "just
be ourselves' and follow your lead.
Bless you,
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dennyz
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Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 12-07-05 11:26am
Hi,
i have a problem with lying, realize I
need help with it, and wonder if it
(lying) is part of a larger problem.
When I stumbled on to this site in search
of information about lying, I came across
this thread on bipolar disorder. I am
shocked at how many of the symptoms I seem
to have.
I am only confronting this problem now
because it has cost me everything that was
important to me. I have always struggled
with telling the truth, but understood why
it was so important to lie. Now in my
50s, I seem to not be able to control it.
I know it is wrong, I don't want to lie,
but I do. It seems to happen when I am
depressed and feel desperate to impress
someone.
Could I have a form of bipolor disorder or
should I be looking somewhere else?
Is anybody else have a similar
situation?
Thanks,
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dennyz
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Joined: 07 Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Washington State
Is Lieing a Part of Being Bi Polar? Posted: 12-07-05 11:38am
I should have read all the postings. It
seems there are mixxed opinion about what
I asked in my previous post.
All I know is I need help and I am not
sure where to look for it.
Thanks
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brunettebabe17
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Joined: 30 Jul 2005 Posts: 46 Location: Illinois
Posted: 12-11-05 06:43am
Ok I am bi polar and lying is not a
symptom of it..Lieng is something you do
on your own free will..Bi polar does not
cause you to lie..Dumb question if I might
add :roll:
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Pizzaz612
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Joined: 12 Dec 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Lacey
I Need Some Advice Posted: 12-12-05 10:15am
I just recently found out that my
boyfriend is bipolar. Things have been
like a crazy roller coaster ride for us.
Now a days he is pushing me away, snapping
at me, always gone, showing no affection,
almost never talking to me, and been very
defensive and easy to anger on everything.
There are times when he is very happy and
on top of the world. I have been having a
hard time trying to understand what he is
going through because when I try to talk
to him about what is going on or how he is
feeling he doesn't really tell me
anything. I also feel like I need to walk
on eggshells around him otherwise he will
end up snapping or getting angry. I have
tried to look up on bipolar everywhere and
there is nothing to help me with how to be
there for him. I love my boyfriend with
all my heart and want to be there with him
for the rest of my life, but I need help
before it is too late and he decides that
it's over. If anyone can help me please
email me at pizzaz
612@hotmail.Com that would be
appreciated. Thanks.
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brunettebabe17
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Lieng Is Not a Part of Bi Polar Just People Usign Excuses Posted: 12-12-05 19:23pm
Bipolar disorder (children and
adolescents) bipolar disorder and lying
05/09/2005 01:27pm
question:
is lying and being dishonest a symptom of
bipolar disorder? The diagnosis has been
made, but I can`t find any information on
whether or not this is a symptom of severe
bipolar disorder. Thank you!
Answer:
hello and thank you for your excellent
question. No, lying and being dishonest
are not symptoms of bipolar disorder, as
diagnosed by the main diagnostic text: the
diagnostic and statistical manual -
version 4 (dsm-iv) published by the
american psychiatric association (apa).
However, if lying and being dishonest are
frequent, long-term and severe behaviors
that cause impairment at
home/school/friends, then they may be:
1. Part of a diagnosis of conduct
disorder, which frequently co-occurs with
bipolar disorder and/or
2. An attempt by the child/teen to
cover-up the problems caused by the
bipolar symptoms.
I hope this answer helps with your
enquiry. Best wishes!
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i did research and found this.. Lying is
not apart of bi-polar..I have had it ince
I was little..And have did reaserch on bi
polar sooo many times and I even called my
counselor/doctor to ask him..And he agrees
lieng is not associated with bi polar.
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BPjoe23
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Joined: 11 Oct 2005 Posts: 111 Location: dfw tx
Posted: 12-15-05 03:51am
Lieing is not a symptom of bipolar
disorder, that is left to the individual.
Everyone lies so don't blame it on the
illness. That is like saying someone eats
because they have high blood pressure.
I've lived with bipolar disorder for more
then half my life.I agree with a previous
post-- people tend to blame an illness
more than the individual responsible.
Maybe you should read something on the
subject rather than posing a question you
had a predetermined unchangable opinion
about.
To me lying is something learned and it
hasn't nothing to do with oh if he/she
lies he/she must have this or that, oh
he/she doesn't do this or that so he/she
doesn't have this or that..
Ok, johny is depressed and sad so he
doesn't want to do anything but sleep. He
tells his mom he is not feeling good,she
wants him to go to school but says since
you're not feeling good you can stay
home.
Ok jim is 19 and works at wallmart still
lives with his parents. But says he is 24
and lives alone with a dog and works as a
computer tech. There true lying?
Ok so why did he lie,was johny really
lying or did he just try to cover up his
bipolar symptoms ? I hope this helps
someone understanding covering up bipolar
symptoms very true lying.
To me lieing is something some one does it
doesn't mean you are or aren't bipolar.
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firefly09
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Joined: 02 Oct 2005 Posts: 45 Location: UK
Posted: 12-16-05 04:32am
"okay for my next question. Why would you
have to chart your lies if it's not part
of your disorder? Wouldn't that be kinda
the point to see how far you have
progressed with controlling your disorder?
So from reading your post i'm assuming it
is cause you totally contradicted
yourself. So no that's not really
answering my question because you totally
confused me. :roll: "
lol yousound like a jerk oh and btw I do
not chart my lies
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puzzld
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Joined: 19 Nov 2007 Posts: 188 Location: gulf coast =), USA
Posted: 12-07-07 11:16am
pitterpatter
wrote:
Calm down crazy health
forum! I was just asking a damm
question! Maybe you need to get some
kind of zoloft or something. Do you lie
a lot?
hope you don't treat or talk to your
friend this way ...
you have over 600 posts, it says, so you
are not new to ehealth.
btw - calling a forum "crazy" only makes
YOU look crazy.
i think that all people have the potential
to lie. furthermore, i believe that some
of us sick with bipolar do lie and some of
us don't lie.
i have lied in the past... not sure if it
was bipolar or not. i think that when i
lie i'm usually being self-destructive
which is a symptom of many illnesses. i do
get overly excited too and i'm sure i have
embellished stories at some point. but, so
do so called mentally healthy people.
people lie. period. just an opinion
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ebaris
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Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 13
Posted: 12-11-07 17:59pm
This is a really interesting question, as
i had never connected the two dots before.
i do lie, but not much and not about
important things. I think for me, there
are two reasons I do so that in fact are
connected to BD.
the first is that when i'm manic, i really
feel like i'm heads and shoulders better
than everyone else. Therefore, i think
that reality should reflect my brilliance,
so yes, I'll embellish stories sometimes
to give that impression. (Though i should
add that i don't make up lies without any
basis of truth, for example, i'm terrible
at math and would never say that i'm a
numbers whiz. however, i will exaggerate
what is already true to give what i think
is an accurate impression of myself to the
person i'm speaking with. this ends up
biting me in the butt most of the time
because when i launch into depressive
episodes, people don't understand what the
trigger was because they think that, like
i said, everything is absolutely perfect.
So, they have no idea what i'm crying
about when i bawl about my being terrible
at everything and not being able to do
anything right.
the other reason, bizarrely enough, was to
make sense of my behavior before i was
diagnosed with bd. it wasn't active lying
on my part, but more like reconstructed
memory. If i needed to describe myself to
another person, id make up theories to fit
my behaviors neatly together. otherwise,
i'd have a whole bunch of contradictories
to tell people--but this was exhausting
and left me completely unsure of who i was
and what was going on. it's funny that i
never theorized about bd until it was
staring me in the face...like they say,
you can't see what's under your own nose.
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Barto
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Joined: 28 Sep 2007 Posts: 17
Pitterpatter Posted: 12-14-07 02:40am
you seem bi polar yourself. My wife is bi
polar and thinks she can say and do
whatever she wants regardless of who it
hurts, kind of like you. You definately
have not learned how to keep the peace
with someone who is bi polar,but from the
looks of your posts,thats not what youre
trying to do. You have certainly found
some triggers though, I can see that by
the reaction you were getting. No one
likes to be called a liar and thats not
specific to someone with bi polar. Please
dont come back with " I wasnt calling them
liars though!" Its almost as if you have
already made up your mind which would make
your comments pointless.
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jennmez
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Joined: 14 Dec 2007 Posts: 6 Location: Northeast,
Think I Uderstand Now Posted: 12-14-07 15:37pm
this is only my second post but i am
trying to really trying to manage this
illness and my marriage. My sister was
diagnosed over 20 years ago and went
through a period of delusions a year ago.
She was in a different world where
everything was a lie. It was scary, but
then again she wasn't taking her meds. My
husband gets so frustrated with me when I
flash my "looks" and tell him a different
"story". That's when I know my meds might
be a bit off. I guess that's a symptom
and a form of lying? I am now coming to
grips with my triggers. Reading these
comments are starting to really hit home.
I think little things cause us to lie to
cover up how we're feeling so ya'll who
aren't bi-polar don't know how much of a
struggle we're having that day - or maybe
that is just how I operate.
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tina316
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Posted: 03-30-08 15:27pm
kristynchase
wrote:
Now I am bipolar and when I
was younger I was a compulsive lier I
would lie for no reason at all and lie
about the most stupidest things.. You
could have told me that my hair was blonde
and I would have dissagreed. I believe
that it is a part of the disorder.. I
know with mine I could lie to someone and
then believe myself that my lie was true I
dont know why I lied all the time they
just somewhat slipped out of my mouth..
It is hard to explain... But I think that
it is a part of the
disorder...
I think it has to do with believing the
lie as you are saying it/ thinking that if
you say it out loud it might be true. When
I was younger every time I saw the
principal i would say everything was
normal and truly did believe that if I
said it it would some how be. After my
diagnosis I continued with harmless lies
to cover up the situation I was in. I
don't know if this will help anyone
understand but it helps just to have
people listen.
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noisesnob
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wow Posted: 03-31-08 01:56am
Quite possibly the most ignorant and
judgmental post ever. Telling someone they
needed zoloft because they were offended
by your post? Calling this a crazy health
forum? We don't need you here to tell us
how bipolar people act, as if you would
even know more than us. How old are you?
13? How many claimed "bipolar" friends do
you have? Everyone stretches the truth at
times. I'm a person living with bipolar
disorder and have been my whole life and I
am offended by your accusations. How do
you think you know more about me than I
do? Yea sure, everyone lies SOMETIMES
about how many cookies they took from the
jar, or why they were late to class....
but it has nothing to do with the
disorder. And not everyone gets angry!
PLEASE educate yourself, especially if you
plan on being a supportive friend. But I'm
guessing you're just going to call her out
for being a liar. Oh, and sorry I'm a
grammar fiend. It's spelled "lying."
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lilgrlblu63
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Believing lies Posted: 04-24-08 02:46am
Well in my situation my husband has
bipolar disorder. And he has lied so much
and he believes his lies. I'm not saying
that everyone that has bpd is a liar. What
I'm saying is I think that some are
delusional. And they cover their guilt by
lying. My husband is kind of pathological.
It's scarey at times. He has hurt me many
times over lies he makes up and believes.
And I stand there wondering what the heck
is going on. The fact is, he doesn't
believe he lies and thinks he is the
greatest person in the world. I'm the
enemy and the liar. So forgive me for
sounding agitated, but after 13 years of
lies, deceit, hurt and just riding a
rollercoaster of shame the whole time.
This isn't about a cookie jar for me or
being late to class. And I have educated
myself with this disorder to the point I
want to scream. I believe that a person
with bpd doesn't really understand the
severity of there actions on the people
that truly love and care for them. I hope
I didn't offend anyone, but I just need to
say that.
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newbeginning123
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WOW!You all are right Posted: 04-27-08 22:44pm
Unfortunately, after 2 years of research I
have just been diagnosed with bipolar
disorder. I have been having extreme moods
swings followed by paranoia, bad
headaches, and just plain weirdness. Its
very embarrassing and I feel ashamed. All
of the friends I had are gone not only due
to the mania but also due to my compulsive
lies. This is not my personality, this is
why the people I am around are stunned to
find out that almost everything that made
me to them are lies! So I will say yes
that lying is apart of this horrid
disease.
...
you have over 600 posts, it says, so you
are not new to ehealth.
