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smith8500
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Bush/kerry On Abortion
Posted: 10-21-04 09:52am
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The partial-birth abortion procedure --
used from the fifth month on -- involves
pulling a living baby feet-first out of
the
womb, except for the head, puncturing the
skull and suctioning out the brain. The
great majority of partial-birth
abortions are performed on healthy babies
of healthy mothers.
George w. Bush v john kerry
government funding of abortion
george w. Bush opposes using tax dollars
to pay for
abortion. During his first week in
office, president bush
reinstated the mexico city policy, which
cut off tax funds to
groups that promote abortion overseas.
John kerry supports using tax dollars to
pay for abortion.
Kerry said that his first executive order
would be to
“reverse the mexico city policy,” and
thereby give tax
funds to groups that promote abortion
overseas.
Supreme court appointments
george w. Bush stated that he will
appoint supreme court
justices who share his conservative
philosophy and who will
strictly interpret the constitution
according to its text. (the
text of the constitution contains no right
to abortion.)
john kerry has stated that if elected
president he would
appoint only supreme court justices who
support the
1973 supreme court decision that legalized
abortion on
demand. He declared, “...I will support
only pro-choice
judges to the supreme court. Some may
call this a
litmus test...”
partial-birth abortion
president george w. Bush promoted and
signed the partial-
birth abortion ban act into law.
Senator john kerry voted against the
partial-birth
abortion ban act every chance he got --
six times.
Abortion on demand
george w. Bush opposes the 1973 supreme
court decision
that legalized abortion on demand and he
supports legal
protection for unborn children.
John kerry supports the 1973 supreme court
decision
that legalized abortion on demand -- even
as a method of
birth control.
Record on life
george w. Bush has repeatedly supported
legislation which
would protect unborn children and people
with disabilities.
George w. Bush signed “laci and conner’s
law,” which
recognizes as victims unborn children who
are killed or
injured in violent federal crimes.
George w. Bush supported legislation to
prevent minor
daughters from being taken across state
lines for secret
abortions in order to avoid parental
notice laws.
John kerry, during his 20 years in the
senate, voted 79
times to support abortion.
John kerry voted against “laci and
conner’s law,” which
recognizes as victims unborn children who
are killed or
injured in violent federal crimes.
John kerry voted against notifying a
parent before
performing an abortion on a minor
daughter.
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Heathergirl
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Posted: 10-21-04 11:18am
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Thank you for this information.......And
just so eveyone knows....Kerry says that
partial birth abortion should be allowed
if it hinders the mothers
health.........We could say
bravo........But what he doesn't say is
that by the mothers health....He means
mental health...Financial
health......Social health........And
things of this sort. This is a fact, I
assure you. I did a report on this
issue.....And was disgusted of what people
shoved under the 'health'
catagory.......Of course a womans
financial health is going to
suffer.......And of course her social
health will not be the same as it was
before.....Wow.
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babyrae
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Posted: 10-21-04 11:57am
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That is disgusting.....
I dont want my tax dollars going towards
abortion either... What if one woman gets
5 or 6.. I have to keep paying for that?
I dont think so!
I had to pay for my abortion out of my own
hardearned money and thats the
consequences of decisions... People
shouldnt turn to the other people for
everything...
Shauna
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linuxChique
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GuitarJade
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Posted: 10-21-04 12:12pm
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I'm a democrate... But I hate kerry
because of the whole abortion thing. Ug!
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-21-04 12:15pm
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I'd have to say that I am def a complete
left wing liberal democrat..
I will say nothing more..
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IDABABY
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Posted: 10-21-04 12:20pm
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I am a republican! I know quite a few
girls that have had 3-4 abortions already.
Its just sick!!
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linuxChique
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Posted: 10-21-04 12:23pm
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Hey kristin is that _your_ a$$ in your
avatar?
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bd1012
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Posted: 10-21-04 12:37pm
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| idababy
wrote: | | i am a republican! I know
quite a few girls that have had 3-4
abortions already. Its just
sick!! |
ok now multiple abortions.. I don't
understand.. They must not be using birth
control or something because I don't see
how it can fail that often.. The reason
why i'm prochoice is because
unplanned pregnancy is something that can
really really change your life
dramatically and I don't think it's up to
me to decide for someone how they handle
it based upon my morals and I understand
it's unrealistic to expect someone who's
not ready for a kid, to be abstinent..
Though I do expect them to be on birth
control and use it properly and I
understand that birth control can fail
sometimes. Multiple abortions... That
must mean that person is being provocative
or isn't on bc and I really can't
understand why unplanned pregnancies can
happen that often if you're not being
irresponsible but I am still prochoice in
this issue because I can't make someone go
through something based of my morals and
assumptions.. That's just my personal
opinion of course..
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Heathergirl
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Posts: 719
Location: Michigan
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Posted: 10-21-04 13:49pm
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Well personally, I can't imagine being
forced to pay for something through my
tax dollars that I don't approve of. And
I know the same girl who has had 4
abortions.......And bragged about
it.....It's sick.....Do we forget that
this country is supposed to embrace life
and protect those who can't stand up for
their own rights?
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bellax0x
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Posted: 10-21-04 15:32pm
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Im prochoice, but I dont agree with pba's
<3
gaby
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HypnotiqPassionz
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Location: Nebraska
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Posted: 10-21-04 15:47pm
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I agree I don't want my tax dollars going
towards abortion either that just angers
me off that they waste our hard earned
money on caca like that. Grrrrrrr
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nippz
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Posted: 10-21-04 16:36pm
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Damn you kerry.
Nader! Lol.
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2ferano
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Posted: 10-24-04 17:18pm
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Um, honey, your tax dollars go to many,
many things that I am sure you don't
support. We cannot control where our tax
money goes.
If the mother's health is in danger and I
mean health as in health, then it should
be legal. If it is financial, social,
etc. Then no, that is just crazy.
I am prochoice all of the way, but I am
also educated enough to know that there is
a very small number of pba's that are
actually performed for a necessary reason.
If it is to spare the mother's life,
then okay. If it is because you are a
dumb promiscuous person who couldn't keep
your legs together and then decided late
in the pregnancy that you want to abort
then, no. Sorry, to be blunt, but come
on now.
I don't support bush trying to get rid of
our rights as women, but he won't succeed,
so it really doesn't bother me much.
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sparklypixie12
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Posted: 10-24-04 17:20pm
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[quote="if it is to spare the mother's
life, then okay. If it is because you
are a dumb promiscuous person who couldn't
keep your legs together and then decided
late in the pregnancy that you want to
abort then, no. Sorry, to be blunt, but
come on now.[/quote]
well put angie
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kitty2luv
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Posted: 10-24-04 17:27pm
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Omg I heard they also cut the babys neck?
Or something like that im sorry I kno I
had one but not at 5 mos omg that is ashem
that gave me chill 
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sparklypixie12
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Posted: 10-24-04 17:28pm
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| kitty2luv
wrote: | | omg I heard they also cut
the babys neck? Or something like that
im sorry I kno I had one but not at 5 mos
omg that is ashem that gave me chill |
what??
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kitty2luv
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What???
Posted: 10-24-04 17:30pm
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what what did I say ? Just cause I had
one?
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nippz
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Posted: 10-24-04 17:31pm
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No I think its that she just doesn't
understand what you said. Cuz I know I
didnt neither.
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kitty2luv
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O Ok
Posted: 10-24-04 17:34pm
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I said that I also heard that they indue
labor deliver the baby head first and b4
thebaby is fully out they cut the neck
(spinal cord)
and it shouldnt be allowed to have a
abortion @ 5 mo the baby is mostly
delvoped
sry
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