Hey everyone!!! I found this site a few
days ago and I think it's awesome!!! All
of you are great for being there for each
other!!! Okay... Around the end of
august I had a mis-carriage. I was only
about 2 or 3 weeks along. I didn't even
know I was pregnant untill my boyfriend
took me to the e.R because I was having
alot of pressure in my lower stomach and
everytime I urinated there was blood in
it. The doc. Told me I was pregnant and
that there was something really wrong
because you aren't suppose to have to pain
during pregnancy. A few days later I went
to see another docter and he told me I was
having a mis-carriage I guess at first I
was relieved and so was my boyfriend.
Everyday it seems like I get more upset
about it. The more I think about losing
the first baby my boyfriend and I made
together the more I want to try for
another one. It just seems like the only
thing that will help is for me to have a
baby. My boyfriend is great...And we love
each other very much. Can anyone give me
any advice??? Is it safe to try for
another baby a few months after a
mis-carriage??? Is it normal for me to
feel like this??? Help!!! Good luck to
everyone!!!
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Dancinchick0587
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 211 Location: Blaine, Mn
Posted: 10-25-04 19:43pm
Ok first of all I have just how you feel
right now.I got pregnant after the shock
was over and everyone was getting so
excited about it. I mean we bought tons
& tons of clothes and everything.
After I lost the baby, it didnt seem so
bad I mean im only 17. Me and my
boyfriend broke up because we lost the
baby. We blamed each other and would
always fight about it. Then we would get
together and say lets make a baby because
we really love each other. So at this
point I might be pregnant again but im not
sure. Its much easier to become pregnant
right after a miscarriage. You have a
much higher rate of getting pregnant for
about the first 3 months. Talk it over
with your boyfriend but, its a first
reaction 2 try and get over something by
replacing it. Are you ready and could you
handle a child right now?
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-25-04 20:50pm
Hey...Thank you for the reply!!! I'm
happy that there is someone out there who
knows how i'm feeling. I'm sorry about
you losing your baby. It must have been
really hard after buying all of the baby
clothes yes, I am ready to
have a baby. I could be more financially
ready but with family help my boyfriend
and I could take care of our baby with no
problems. We've talked (and fought) alot
about. He wants a baby too but I know
he'd rather wait a couple years. He knows
how hurt I am...But it seems like every
time we talk about it, we never finish the
conversation. I got on birth control
pills the month after I lost the baby but
I stopped taking them after the first
month. My boyfriend knows I stopped
taking the pill and ever since I got off
of my period we have been having
un-protected sex and he has not been
pulling out. He talks about having a baby
alot, how great it's going to be to talk
to my tummy and play his guitar to it. He
knows that if we keep this up I will get
pregnant. I know that an egg doesn't drop
untill 14 days after your period, but is
it possible for you to get pregnant before
then??? The first of the month is when I
should be ovulating. I'm 18 and my
boyfriend is 19. I'm finished with school
and i'm going to start writting classes
soon...My boyfriend has a staedy job and
is in nursing school. Let me know if you
are pregnant!!!! Good luck with you and
your boyfriend...You know that you are
meant to be if you can make it through
something as hard as losing a baby!
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bbak
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 21
Posted: 10-25-04 21:23pm
I'd like to say a couple of things about
this.
First of all, my sympathies on the loss of
your baby. It's something I have never
and hope never to experience.
Secondly, I think that the natural
response to any sort of loss is to replace
whatever was lost. I think that
considering that your first pregnancy was
not planned for, perhaps you are simply
reacting to the loss? If you had not
become pregnant to begin with, would you
still be considering this? You had a baby
growing inside, and now you most likely
will need some time to come to terms with
that.
I have never been an advocate of waiting
for the perfect time, because it will
never come. But there are certainly some
times that are worse than others.
If your boyfriend isn't sure, you should
wait. It will be his baby too, and his
responsibility, and he could become
overwhelmed with it. The fact that he
wanted to wait is a good indication.
A baby is added stress, if your
relationship already has some problems,
you should work those out first.
And I want you to be sure that you realize
realistically the implications of a
baby.
I have a few questions you may want to ask
yourself if you are seriously
considering.
Can you handle going on as little as 4, 3,
or 2 hours of sleep per night? For how
long? Can you manage it for a week? For
a month? Longer?
Will you be able to work, and if not, who
will support you?
Do you plan to further your education? If
so, how will you handle childcare?
When you envision having a baby, what is
your reasoning for it? Is it because you
want a baby to love and love you, or is it
because you think that you can create and
maintain an environment that would be
beneficial to a child? Essentially, are
you thinking of your childs best interest
or your own?
I mean none of this to discourage you. I
only want you to make an informed
decision. I am the mother of a 1 year old
little boy, i'm a college student, and
wife. I wouldn't trade it for anything,
but it is difficult. Sometimes i'm kept
up until 2 or 3 am with my son, and then
have to get up for school at 6 am.
Sometimes money is extremely tight.
Sometimes, even though I have a great
relationship with my husband, we are both
so stressed that we just can't get along.
You have a lifetime to look forward to
work and stress and responsibility, maybe
you should appreciate your youth a little
longer.
Or, maybe you really are ready. If you
think you're up to the challenge, kudos.
Whatever you decide, (of course, in the
end, only you and your boyfriend can
decide), I hope it works well for you.
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Dancinchick0587
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 211 Location: Blaine, Mn
Posted: 10-25-04 21:31pm
Me and paul (the father)never got back
together in fact my best friend for years
(we started dating after me and paul broke
up) he asked me 2 marry him. Hes 20. He
bought a house in chicago. And were both
planning on going 2 college together.
Losing a baby destroyed me and paul. And
everything we had. But if im pregnant
now, matt wants 2 adopt my child so he can
be the father. I dont know if paul will
agree with this but im not all that sure
im pregnant. You tend to ovulate sooner
after you have a miscarriage and its much
easier 2 get pregnant but its not healthy
for the baby or you. Good luck hun! Ill
keep u posted if im pregnant
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-25-04 21:36pm
Hey!!! Thank you so much for being
concerned and for your opinion. I have a
question, if you could have waited to have
your baby, would you have?? Was your baby
planned? Sorry, just curious I
think you are right when it comes to my
boyfriend, it will be his child
too....Which is the best part....The
thought makes me so happy!!! Tonight when
he gets home from work, I plan to set down
with him and have a serious, looong talk,
which this time, will get finished :d i'll
let you know how our talk went, and what
our decision is!!! Thanks soooo much for
being so sweet and honest!!! You've
really made me see things in a diffrent
light!!!
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-25-04 21:46pm
Well.....Wow!!! That sucks about the
baby's daddy paul!!!!! Does he want to be
a father??? Things seem really messed up
for you right now..I'm sorry i'm very thankful
that my boyfriend and I made it through
all of this!!! I'm kinda scared now that
you've siad it's not safe for me or the
baby to be pregnant again so soon after
the mis-carriage!!! Good luck with your
new man!!! Any man who wants to take
responsibility of a baby who isn't his, is
a good man in my opinion!!!! Keep me
posted!!! :d
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Dancinchick0587
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 211 Location: Blaine, Mn
Posted: 10-25-04 22:08pm
I dont know what he will do when he finds
out im pregnant again (if for sure I am) I
know for a fact he will want 2 be
involved. And he will probley wont 2 get
back together but he needs 2 straighten
out his life.... After we broke up and
lost the baby everything for him came
crashing down and pushed everyone out. (a
big part me) matts amazing though, he has
everything in order. I still love paul,
god I always will. But matt has something
different that paul doesnt. I dont know
if paul would give up his rights.... But
I honestly dont know what will happen I
dont know for sure if im pregnant or not
so we will see...! I took a test friday
night I believe or saturday, but I think
its 2 soon 2 tell. My doc told me 2 wait
anyways will the end of this week.....
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-25-04 22:22pm
Wow!!! I really don't know what to say!!!
Do you want to be pregnant??? Are you
still in touch with paul?? If you still
love him...You should try to work things
out, espically if you are pregnant with
his baby. Just because the other guy has
his life together doesn't mean you should
be with him. Do what your heart tells you
to do.....Good luck sweetheart!!! How
late is your period??? When did you have
your mis-carraige???
Teresa
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bbak
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 21
Posted: 10-25-04 22:33pm
magic_tinkerbell
wrote:
hey!!! Thank you so much
for being concerned and for your opinion.
I have a question, if you could have
waited to have your baby, would you have??
Was your baby planned? Sorry, just
curious I
think you are right when it comes to my
boyfriend, it will be his child
too....Which is the best part....The
thought makes me so happy!!! Tonight
when he gets home from work, I plan to set
down with him and have a serious, looong
talk, which this time, will get finished
:d i'll let you know how our talk went,
and what our decision is!!! Thanks soooo
much for being so sweet and honest!!!
You've really made me see things in a
diffrent
light!!!
i'm going to assume you're talking to me
here.
for your question, it depends on
specifics. If I knew everything I know
now, and went back, I wouldn't change a
thing. I love my son too much to imagine
life without him. But if it were simply a
matter of not having "any" baby, I think I
would have waited. Now I am trying to
build a better life for us, sort of wading
through it all, where I have no time to
myself. I go to school, then i'm a mom,
then i'm a wife, then i'm the
cook/cleaner...I never have enough time in
my day. And i'm lucky because I don't
have to work right now lol. If I had done
all this when it was only myself to worry
about, things would be much simpler.
He was not planned either. I was at a
stage probably very much like the two of
you, i'd only been married 6 months or so,
the maternal instinct was really kicking
in. I wanted a baby so bad it hurt
sometimes...I wanted the baby with my
heart. With my head, I knew it wasn't the
best time, so I wasn't allowing myself to
seriously consider it. When I found out I
was pregnant, I was terrified and thrilled
at the same time, if that makes sense.
I think the best thing you can do is talk
to your boyfriend, come up with a plan.
Talk it through, all the way through. If
you start to argue, take a minute to cool
off, regroup, come back. This may be the
hardest part, but when you talk, listen
well, take what he has to say to heart.
If he isn't ready, he will let you know.
You will have to accept that, you can
never "make" someone ready. But even if
that is the case, you can still plan
things out. You can work toward being
more ready. In my case, my husband and I
have decided that we'd like to try for
another one next year, once i'm finished
school. We both agree on this, and it's a
nice thing to look forward to, because
right now would not be a good time for
either of us.
I say this all because i've known women
who have had kids with men who are not
ready for it. They (the fathers) love
their kids dearly, try hard, try to make
it work. In the end, they are often
floundering, they suddenly can't take it,
they are overwhelmed, and they run. These
mothers are left alone with the kids, and
that's not where you want to be.
My other concern, that I forgot to mention
earlier, is that if you have a
history/family history of miscarriage, and
you get pregant and miscarry again, it
will only compound the kind of emptiness
that you feel. It is of course not an
absolute, you could carry the next one to
term easily. But it is a
possibility...Something to consider
perhaps, how would it affect you if you go
through another miscarriage? I know of
one woman who had 7 miscarriages before
she finally had one healthy baby, but also
a good friend of mine had a miscarriage at
17 and just gave birth to a healthy boy in
the spring. You never know.
Dancingchick, not many men are happy to
hear about pregnancy when it's their own.
You're very fortunate to have such a guy.
If you've got a little one on the way
already, congratulations. Kids are a
trial, but they enrich your life like
nothing else can. Don't stress too much
about the legalities of it all just yet.
Both you girls take care, and keep
posting.
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 10-25-04 23:03pm
[hey again!!! My boyfriend and I both
just sat and read everything you have
written to me. I think it is really going
to help one way or another in the decision
we make. I know what you mean about
wanting a baby so bad that it hurts.
That's exactly how I feel...And I don't
want to feel like that anymore. How old
are you...If you don't mind me asking???
I have a question that you could maybe
answer for me. My boyfriend and I have
been having un-protected sex everyday
sence I got off my period (about 7 days
now) is it possible that I am pregnant
now??? Because I know that you don't
ovulate untill 14 days after your period.
Do you know anything about it??? Oh, I
think that you are awesome for everything
that you do...You sound like a wonderful
mom and wife!!! Good luck with school!!!
Get back to me a.S.A.P!!! Thanks
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Dancinchick0587
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 211 Location: Blaine, Mn
Posted: 10-25-04 23:56pm
In a way I really want a baby with paul.
We were so much in love. It was the kinda
love people could just look at us and tell
that we were so happy. I wish I was still
in touch with paul. We had a huge huge
huge fight about 2 weeks ago. And when we
broke up we tryed being friends but,
couldnt, there was way 2 much pain there.
My parents hate well my hole family hates
him. So that broke us apart. They kicked
me out for even being with him, and I had
2 live at his house. And they did a damn
good job making my life a living hell. So
he thought I would be happier if my
parents wouldnt be so mean 2 me if I wasnt
with him. He cares about me and really
wants me 2 be happy. ( I wanna cry just
thinking about what we had and how happy
we were) but anyways....... we
had a huge fight because I was starting 2
date matt about a month after me and paul
broke up and he was so crushed and we got
in a huge fight we both said stuff we
didnt mean and now we dont talk 2 each
other. Its really sad he either goes and
gets drunk 2 forget everything or sits at
home. When we talked he told me he wont
go near his bedroom or even think about
sleeping in his bed. He said he lays in
his bed and remembers how amazing it felt
2 hold me and have me hold him as we feel
alsleep. I tryed telling him I was better
off when we were together and he could
tell that I had some very bad days but his
mind was made up. He wants 2 see me with
someone better off.
What my heart tells me.... Is 2 be with
paul but I cant. I had my miscarriage on
sept 21st. And I havent had a period
since. It always used 2 be 28 day's but
I dont know. I didnt bleed a lot when I
had my miscarriage. The fetus came out
hole and that was on the 26th. So I dont
know....... I dont know what im going 2
do. I think getting away will be best.
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jessamyn
Moderator
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 4116 Location: San Diego, CA
Thanks: 11
Thanked:3
Posted: 10-26-04 00:08am
Hey sweet pea as long as your emotionally
ready for it I saw go ahead...
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jessamyn
Moderator
Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 4116 Location: San Diego, CA
Thanks: 11
Thanked:3
Posted: 10-26-04 00:08am
Hey sweet pea as long as your emotionally
ready for it I saw go ahead...
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bbak
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Oct 2004 Posts: 21
Posted: 10-26-04 01:24am
Magic_tinkerbell - i'm glad for the
opportunity to help in some way. If
you're 18, i'm not terribly older, i'm
23.
I think that as long as you are having sex
at all there is always the chance of
pregnancy. A lot depends on your
individual make-up, and the mix between
you and your partner. I have known women
who have gotten pregnant using every
possible precaution, while others try and
try to no avail.
Every womans cycle is different as well.
The typical 28-day cycle doesn't apply to
a lot of women, it's more of a default or
the "norm". Many women have shorter or
longer cycles. It's not my strong point,
as i've never been one to chart these
things, and have never tried to get
pregnant. So I don't want to give you
faulty advice by taking a guess
if you are going to try for a baby, i'd
suggest that you talk to a doctor or
nurse. In my city there is a nurse's
hotline, you can call and receive advice
over the phone, perhaps it's worth looking
into in your area. I'd also recommend
that you start prenatal vitamins, they
contain folic acid and are essential to
proper brain developement for babies.
Thank you for your compliment. I try very
hard to be a good wife and mom, sometimes
I fall short I know but no one is
perfect.
Dancinchick0587 - when you are young,
things fall through, it feels like the end
of the world. You say that you spoke to
paul two weeks ago, this is still a fresh
wound. It's hard to think about things
objectively when you are still so
emotionally involved.
It doesn't have to be over forever. On
the other hand, maybe it should be. You
say that your family didn't like him, what
about friends? Often the people who care
about us see things that we are blinded
to. It's not always the case, but maybe
it's worth looking at their viewpoint.
Keep your eyes open and chin up. Things
will work out in the end, maybe in a way
you didn't even imagine.
Dealing with a miscarriage and a breakup
all at once is a lot to handle for anyone.
My suggestion (take it or leave it, your
choice), is that you should take some time
for you. Stay uninvolved for a while,
find out what you want and need. A lot of
people will make leaps from one
relationship into the next without dealing
with the baggage they carry from the last,
and it begins to add up. Maybe think of
it as time to pamper you...Instead of time
to be without a boyfriend. Chances are,
you'll come out of it feeling better,
refreshed, and more sure of where you're
going.
I really hope that things work out for
you, and i'm sure they will in the end.
Take care.
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IDABABY
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Mar 2004 Posts: 2236 Location: ***Wisconsin Baby***
Posted: 10-26-04 14:08pm
Hey tinkerbell-
how long should you wait after a pregnancy
loss before trying again?
Non-evidence based advice abounds on this
topic. Couples are frequently advised to
wait three or more months, or wait for
three normal cycles. The rationale for
this advice is dubious.
The reasons for deferring another
pregnancy are (in no particular order!!!):
pregnancy wasn't planned anyway and so
there is no hurry to get on with another.
The couple feel so traumatised they want
to wait and get their lives in order.
There is a single paper originating from
one of the hawaiian islands which showed a
slightly higher risk of neural tube
defects in pregnancies which followed soon
after stillbirth than pregnancies in which
there was a longer gap. There is great
doubt about whether these data are
terrible relevant and whether they can be
extrapolated to other populations 40 years
later !
There are some papers from 1970's and
early 1980's. Conducted retrospectively
on couples who did not receive the
supportive care and advice which we would
currently feel is mandatory after
stillbirth. These studies show quite
clearly that couples who had another
pregnancy soon after the loss were more
likely to have experienced morbid grief
and significant psychological disturbance.
The problems here are two fold:
did the couples get pregnant sooner
because of their morbid grief and thereby
seek a "replacement pregnancy", such that
the early next pregnancy was a result of
their psychological problems rather than
the cause of it;
with differences in how such couples are
now treated would a similar study have the
same findings ?
-kristin
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 11-01-04 23:07pm
Hey!!! This is tink!!! Hope you didn't
forget about me bbak!!! My computer was
broken for a while....I almost went crazy
without it!!! I just wanted to let you
know that my boyfriend and I are trying
for a baby. We talked then ended up
fighting!!! He wrote me this looong
letter letting me know how he felt, then I
wrote him back letting him know how I
feel. After he read it, we made love and
he didn't pull out
the only thing he said the whole time was
"i love you so much" it was amazing. My
body is already feeling wierd....Diffrent.
It's probably all in my head, but we'll
see!!! Wish me luck :d get back to me
soon!!!!
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 11-01-04 23:11pm
Hey idababy!!! Thanks for all the info.
My boyfriend and I have everything worked
out...And we are going to try for a
baby!!! How are things going with you???
Get back to me soon!!!
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Magic_Tinkerbell
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 38
Posted: 11-01-04 23:14pm
Hey dancinchick!!! I'm sure you can read
the other forums and see what is going on
with me....Now, what's going on with
you??? Anything new???