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HLP
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Southern Ohio
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Diet For Lupus
Posted: 10-12-03 14:03pm
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I am posting this because I am stuck....
I have been diagnosised with lupus....
I spend a great deal of time on steriods
now
(prednisone and cortisone)
i am now 15 pounds over my "ideal"
weight.
(like an fool I tried the adkins diet lost
pounds
yes, not worth the flare up that came
right
after.) so I am going to be alot more
careful
with my "dieting".
So now I am trying to go back to a
vegetarian
diet. Does anyone have a exercise and
diet routine
that works? Its a whole new ballgame
when you
are too tired to go to the gym and feeling
hopeless
about the whole situation.
Heather enaya

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sharon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
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Welcome
Posted: 10-12-03 15:00pm
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Hi heather, I know how you feel. All of
us do. I've always been very big on
exercize. I also spent most of my
childhood on a farm, so i'm not afraid of
hard work. But....Now I find myself not
able to do the things I once was able to
do. It's a hard thing to face! I have a
treadmill and a bicycle and everyone is
always telling me I need to get out there
and walk!! I'm so tired of that!  first of all, I
love to exercise, but just can't any more.
I would love to go bike rideing and long
or short walks! I even have a hard time
on the treadmill.
My ashma has gotten worse, my knees are
in bad shape, my hip is going out on me
and i'm told by my foot doctor ,i need
surgery. That is on top of a bad back and
carpul-tunnel in both hands. Am I lazy?
No, i'm not!! Never have been and never
will be!!
I'm not wollowing in my pain either!
My point is when you have a disease like
lupus , you can't do the things you
normally would do to lose weight. I
congradulate the ones who still try to do
that. But some of us have come to the
point that we just.......Can't.
we still need to watch what we eat and
move around as much as posible. I'm no
expert on what lupus patients should eat,
but it sure would be nice to know what
foods we should avoid. Because of flare
ups.
Sorry, I guess I needed to vent! I now
weigh more than i've ever weighed before,
and a friend, made a coment to me last
evening about getting out and walking
more. He didn't mean to offend me , but
he did, and I let him know how I felt!
I'm going to print out for him the info
on lupus.
Thanks for* listening*
sharon 
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HLP
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Southern Ohio
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Total Understanding
Posted: 10-13-03 02:01am
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Well I have been really concerned about
how diet can affect this "challenge". I
don't call it a disease or ailment. I
try to think of this as my personal
challenge. Sometimes it gets me.
I have been reading medical journals, etc.
(i was a pre-med student when I found
out that I had lupus. With the
suppression medication I could not make
rounds or even take the hep vaccine
because my immune system could not have
handled it.)
anyway, from what I have been reading most
advocate a low protein and low fat diet.
Well rounded nutritionally with calcium
supplements as needed. I am still wading
through journals trying to figure it all
out, but if anyone has something that
works for them I would be happy to hear
about it.
As for exercise, exhausting yes, but as
soon as this flare up is over I will
return to aqua therapy. (swimming and
the hot-tub).
Also my life partner took the time to
learn a lot of therapeutic massage
techniques. He has been a life-saver.
Drink lots of water when you do it, but I
cannot begin to express how much help for
stress relief and comfort that deep tissue
massage is.
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
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Posted: 10-13-03 08:30am
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Regardless...You *will* gain weight on
moderate to high amounts of steroids.
I have a friend who is a transplant nurse
for kids. These kids are eating nothing
(on iv) and still gain weight because they
are on steroids.
After you get off the steroids, watch what
you eat and exercise...The only way to
*really* lose weight and keep it off.
Hugs,
ladybrannon
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SAM43
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 34 Location: Florida
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Diets And Lupus
Posted: 10-22-03 10:28am
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Hi all:
i read this thread and felt a need to
post.....
Not everyone gains weight on steroids,
however it does change the way we process
foods....And the cravings...Hmmm
the idea when on steroid treatments is to
increase fiber, but not to excess...Change
sweets for carrots, exchange soda or tea
with water...
I have found the best diet to be on is one
that changes your eating patterns while
satisfying the inner you....Weight
watchers works, it is probably the
healthiest way to diet and not be too
unhealthy.
Exercise, now there is a tough topic, I
used to be very active, aerobics, weight
training, scuba, biking,
rollerblading....Now I am lucky if I can
roll out of bed some mornings....
I worked with a personal
trainer/therapist, we started with
stretches and then progressed to mild
weights (low weight and low reps), since
then I am finding that I am exhausted
right after the workout....Shaking and
twitching...Needful of a nap, however, the
next day I have more energy than on the
day after no exercise.
Any exercise...Climbing stairs rather then
taking the elevator, walking around the
building at lunch, sitting and
standing(up/down) for 5 minutes a day may
be hard at first but will get easier...The
more you do the better you may
feel....Just remember you will never get
skinny or a hard body this way, however is
that really our goal? Don't we just to
have more energy and feel better...And if
we lost a few pound as a result...Cool
do what you can and don't punish yourself
for what you can't, just take a small step
back so that you eventually take another
step forward.
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
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Posted: 10-22-03 11:59am
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Hate to be argumentative...But *most*
people do gain weight on steroids. Want
proof? Go to a transplant ward. They
are fed through tubes, but are on
steroids. These people gain 40+ pounds.
Steroids makes you system "collect" fat.
As I said, on high dose steroids you
*will* gain weight. High dose steroids
being 20mg or higher of prednisone.
I can show you the documentation if you
would like, but I assure you I *am*
correct.
Ladybrannon
Last edited by LadyBrannon on 10-22-03 12:41pm; edited 1 time in total
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SAM43
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 34 Location: Florida
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Posted: 10-22-03 12:40pm
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I am sorry if I "got your goose" it was
not my intention.....I did not say you
will not gain weight, I just said that not
everyone will gain weight.
I see that the moderators seem to by
highly sensitive to opinions different
from their own therefore I will no longer
voice my opinion on this site.
Again
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
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Sorry!
Posted: 10-22-03 12:54pm
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Sam43...I am very sorry that you thought I
was being rude to you. I was simply
trying to make sure that you understood
that a lot of us on this site are not on
small doses of prednisone and we do gain
weight! Serious amounts...Serious enough
to cause other health problems.
Again, I am terribly sorry. I am also
sorry to anyone else that thought I was
rude. I was simply trying to make sure
that the facts were clearly stated.
A very sorry,
ladybrannon
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HLP
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Southern Ohio
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Diet
Posted: 10-24-03 00:54am
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Ok so far... This is what I have found
about the best "diet" (this is not diet
as in weight loss) these are the most
recommended diet points I have found.
The things that it looks like "we" should
eat and not eat.
Most recommendations point to a vegetable
rich, low animal protein diet. Alfalfa
sprouts are a no no. Alot of other
things are "in debate".
I am going to work with a couple of
dietians that I went to school with and
the ones that work with my health care
provider to try to wade through this great
abundance of information. If any one is
interested let me know.
I don't know if it will help any of us,
but I am a true believer in information is
our best tool.
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SAM43
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Oct 2003 Posts: 34 Location: Florida
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Diet Guru
Posted: 10-24-03 06:22am
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Hlp:
i think that this is a wonderful idea.
Any information you that you would share
with us would be marvelous.
Perhaps we can start a thread for diet
ideas, recipies and suggestions. What do
you think?
Thanks - stephanie
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HLP
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 22 Location: Southern Ohio
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Diet Thread
Posted: 10-24-03 23:40pm
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If it would help and people are
interested, sure.
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sharon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
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Diet
Posted: 10-25-03 15:15pm
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I'm very interested  please let me know
what you find out. Thanks......Sharon

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jayney espinoza
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Nov 2003 Posts: 1 Location: pasco washington
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Posted: 11-04-03 00:02am
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 hi all, i'm new
here, i've had lupus for 4 years and it
seems to be getting worse. I need to know
if any of you are going to a specialist or
just a regular doctor. I had gained alot
of weight also but i've been doing jorge
cruise 8 minutes in the morning routine
and it really helps me to move the rest of
the day. Lately i've been getting very
light headed. I've had to go to the e.R.
3 times in oct. I woke up one morning
with lumps on my face. I was given
antibiotics and was told it was a flare
up. If anyone knows of a real good Dr.
(i'm near spokane and seattle). Thanks.
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ShiftingSands
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Feb 2004 Posts: 16
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Carpal Tunnel Surgery
Posted: 03-06-04 21:35pm
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For heather.. Who posted she is suffering
from carpal tunnel syndrome.
I had that for years and ignored it due to
my lupus. I was afraid to have surgery
for fear it would trigger my immune system
into a bad relapse.
Well, when my left hand became totally
numb.. I broke down and had it done. I
had it done at an out patient facility
that specializes it it. I was only there
for three hous.. The surgery itself only
took 15 minutes! The doc told me after it
was over that I had a very bad case and he
was glad I had it done or it could have
caused permanent damage very soon.
I wore a splint for only 2 weeks. It was
a little painful for a while, but nothing
horrible. But from the day of surgery I
never had another numb feeling in my hand!
It is totally gone and great!
Now I am trying to find a time to have the
other one done.
Since we can't solve many of our pain
problems, if you are dealing with carpal
tunnel.. Do yourself a favor and have it
surgically corrected.
You will be very glad you did.
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