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Izzy

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Posted: 10-31-04 14:55pm

Domestic violence.

Artical from a womans magazine "real"

"we were having an argument when, without warning, my partner hurled a cup of scalding hot coffee in my face, then grabbed my head and smashed it against the doorframe cutting open my cheekbone.

Surely everyone would find this story shocking - yet when the victim called the police for help, the response was a curt "isnt it about time you learned to look after yourself"

any woman who had this experience would quite rightly be outraged and demand the protection she deserved. However men who are physically assaulted by their female partners face pain, injury but more the most painfull degrading thing of all the humiliation of ridicule.

Women it seems (as any pro lifer will know..Ad lib by izzy) are as capable of inflicting physical abuse as men. Mankind, a mens civil rights charity, recieves dozens of calls every weak to its helpline from men who suffer serious domestic violence from the women they live with.

"the level of violence used by woemn against there male partners is terrifying" says stephen fitzgerald of mankind. "the men who call us endure all kinds of abuse, from black eyes to being knocked unconscious and stabbed with kitchen knives. But the one thing they all ahve in common is a sense of shame. Because peoples first thought is always the same "well he is bigger than her so why dosnt he defend himself?" but the fact is for the vast majority of men, raising your hand to a woman just isnt on the agenda, even if she is half killing you.

Also women who abuse there male partners tend to be treated leiniently by the law - often recieving community service or probation for even extreme acts of violence. Yet a man who simply strikes a women even in defence will be in deep trouble.

Although most of us see domesic abuse as something men do to women, a 1999 goverment report tells a very different story. The study - the largest of its kind, found that 4.2% of men and 4.2% of women had suffered serious domestic violence - a small but equal minority, however domestic violence on a lesser note is vertually none existant from men in comparison to female abusers.

"we see this time and time again in studies worldwide" says dr sean stitt

research shows that there is no particular type of man who suffers this abuse. It goes right across the spectrum just as with female victims.

Real talked to two men who suffered at the ands of their partners, and a woman whose anger got out of control.

There follows three absolutly shocking accounts doemstic violence three moving real life stories but I cant be bothered to type it up, I will just come to the final conclusion by the magazine......

Over the last three decades, women have adopeted an increasingly assertive role at home and in the workplace and its this, say experts, that has led the, to take on more traditionally male charicteristics psychotherapist gwen palmer has worked with men who have been abused by their female partners. She explains that the opportunities available to women today gives them more power than ever

"women becoming equal with men is obviously a healthy change insociety" says palmer "but with that power only few men abuse their power in a relationship, more and more women now with equal power are abusing not only there male partners but also a system built to (by men...Ad lib from izzy) protect women from men.

This can lead to them wanting to completely control their partner, which can translate into violence, they have to have everything their way and control everything in their ife, including their relationships. What feminism has helpped women achieve is by no way or means a samll victory but what women once hated about men, they themselves have become.

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females abuse there rights to kill unborn infants why cant they abuse there rights to assault men?
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Posted: 10-31-04 16:51pm

What is your point? Yes, some men are abused too. Women are treated more lienently? Um, how many men who abuse women every actually get in trouble? It is very rare, so I really don't see what your point is.
And this has absolutely nothing to do with abortion.


Females abuse there rights to kill unborn infants why cant they abuse there rights to assault men?

What in the world are you talking about?
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Posted: 10-31-04 17:42pm

Did you just(key word, just) realize that women abuse men,(news flash)this has been going on for alot of years now!
Look at the kids in viet nam 3, 4 or 5 years old that were carrying a gun almost twice their size, our men were k I l l e d by these kids and babies because our men did not want to hurt or k I l l their children and babies, if I had a gun pointing at me by some kid or baby, and I had a gun on me, I would k I l l that kid or baby, it is called survival.
I have lived thru abuse, I have seen all sides of abuse, this is part of my job, so you really don't have a point.
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Izzy

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Posted: 10-31-04 17:54pm

"um, how many men who abuse women every[day] actually get in trouble?"

a lot more than women who abuse men and there are more abusive women than men or at least the artical says so.

What the crack is, is this women are becoming violent people, killing babies, attacking men, and young children they were never like this before, they were respectable people who knew they were better than men, now they think they are better but in fact they are worse!

We men cant hand over the reins until you girls have learnt what is right and wrong,that is why I want to stop abortion I want the women to be "equal"

i think that is the ironic part about the contempary feminist movement is that although most women are not contempary feminists - they believe all women think they way they do. The fact is that although they are playing a critical role for women they are in effect making women exactly like men!

What are you going to gain girls? You want to work - thats fine, you want the same wages - thats fine, you want more - fine! Blah blah blah but at the end of the day what will you have? A good job? A respectable career? A nice car? A big house?, a ungrateful family that you never get to see or want to? A life of your own - on your own?

Men have had to endure this crp for centuarys - then women come along and start screaming we want it we are being baddly done to... Ha!
You want it, you can have it - its all lies big houses, good jobs, fast cars and respected careers do not make you happy- quite the opposite actually. There is only one important thing in this world and that is family - if havent got it you have nothing, you girls want to slog your guts out selling your souls for a few bucks while us men stay at home laughing and playing with the children, taking them swimming, to the shops, to the beach etc - I will be having some of that! - health question the housework - I didnt ask you to get a job - you wanted it!
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Posted: 10-31-04 17:59pm

"look at the kids in viet nam 3, 4 or 5 years old that were carrying a gun almost twice their size, our men were k I l l e d by these kids and babies because our men did not want to hurt or k I l l their children and babies, if I had a gun pointing at me by some kid or baby, and I had a gun on me, I would k I l l that kid or baby"

you see what I mean, that is just low, I would rather die and loose a war than kill a single child.
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Posted: 10-31-04 22:59pm

I love psychology!! Don't you realize, men did kill baby's and children in viet nam and they are still killing them when they beat up a woman and cause her to miscarry! You are such a little, little weak little boy with nooooo common sense, and you are very anti-woman!!!! You are not a survivor!!!!!
I don't have a big, fast car or a big house, I have a little home and a little car, I am not a materialistic person I have a very greatful proud family. I have a job to where I can help people and part of my job is to help people that cannot, will not and do not know how to help themselves, I do not depend on others to support me, I have my pride, I am happier than heck! I do not live in an imaginary world like you do, you either need to take more pills or less pills and get with reality!
Abortion has been around for years and years, even before the equal-rights movement and will be around for many many more years, you will not be able to change it
get real!
Don't get me wrong I am not 100% for abortion, I am pro-choice, I am not walking in these women's and girls shoes. But they should have a choice but alot of times I do see a need for abortion, but I do not judge them, I do my best to support their decision and I try to help them.
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Izzy

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Posted: 11-01-04 07:55am

You totally miss the point.... I was not talking of any individual and I was not saying it makes you unhappy to work.


"don't you realize, men did kill baby's and children in viet nam and they are still killing them when they beat up a woman and cause her to miscarry!"

oh please of course I knew, it still dosnt make it right just because men were doing it.


As you say a man can kill a baby by attacking a woman and causing her to miscarry but a woman who chooses abortion is terminating a pregnancy which is nothing but a bunch of cells - really you girls have no clue about equality- you want to be equal then you want to recieve special treatment when you want just because your female and if you dont then men are being unfair. I blame your fathers - spoild little girls.


"you are such a little, little weak little boy with nooooo common sense, and you are very anti-woman!!!! You are not a survivor!!!!!£

i am not anti woman - as soon as someone disagrees with you man or woman I have noticed become anti woman - I am not.


I may or may not have common sense but thats for you to decide and its only your opinion at the end of the day!


I am not a survivor I am a weak person who needs protection by the law - I am exactly the same as the unborn!


"abortion has been around for years and years, even before the equal-rights movement and will be around for many many more years, you will not be able to change it
get real!"

stop it - no, make it illegal - yes!


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Posted: 11-01-04 09:02am

Why is that mysognistic person allowed on here?
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Posted: 11-01-04 09:30am

Not that I am mysognistic but I didnt realise it was illegal or against the board rules!

You just want to take away freedom of speach - again the ture colors are shown!
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Posted: 11-03-04 13:57pm

Yes,women abuse men.Yes,little children are give guns and are told to kill.Yes,all of this, and more happens in our world.These things have been going on for thousands of years and will continue because of hatred and ignorance.I do not see what this has to do with abortion-for or against.Somehow,i think you would reconsider your view against shooting a child if the child had a automatic rifle pointed at you and was about to pull the trigger with no remorse.The beauty of some of these groups that recruit children is that the kids have no bias,they shoot and kill because they are told to.The kids are told that americans(or whomever they want killed) are evil and wicked and they must kill them.These groups take in orphans or kids who are abandoned and feed and clothe them and give them shelter and a sense of a family.To a child who is hungry and alone,they will do whatever is asked of them to continue to be fed and taken care of.These crazed leaders know this and prey on the fear of being alone and hungry.This is not new,just sad.Patty
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Posted: 11-05-04 11:15am

That is why we need to rescue and help them not kill them, that only goes to reinforce what the "crazed" leaders are telling them
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Posted: 11-05-04 18:25pm

Omg I cannot stop laughing!
Deary get your head checked. More women abuse men? What planet do you live on? Women are becoming violent? No, sweatheart women are starting to stick up for themselves.

And until we have "learnt" hahahaha...I couldn't read anymore after that! What is the point?
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Posted: 11-06-04 08:56am

Izzy, why are you reading women's magazines? Are you struggling to get in touch with the woman in you? Or are you looking for tips on how to please men sexually?
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Posted: 11-06-04 16:36pm

I find them interesting and often funny how they think they know about men
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:13pm

Lol! And the men's magazines don't act like they know women?
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:33pm

No they just usualy exploite and belittle them!
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:37pm

Yes, they do that too, but I mean the ones where they have articles about "what women want" and "what women like in bed" and whatnot.
Yeah, the women's magazines have those same articles about men, but I don't care for either. Because really, they are written by one man, or one woman and they write what they like. Sure they find people who like the same things and interview them, but it just stereotypes every male and every female.
Like the cosmo magazine. The sex articles. Oh my goodness they crack me up. I read a guy magazine once about something like "ten tricks to make her smile" or something of the sort all things about sex. If any guy did half of those things to me I would hurt him badly!

But anyway, my point was just that it isn't just women's magazines that claim to know the opposite sex, men's do the same thing.
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Posted: 11-12-04 08:02am

Ok! Confused
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Posted: 11-12-04 08:02am

Ok! Confused
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