Ok Lets Get This Party Going Posted: 10-31-04 14:55pm
Domestic violence.
Artical from a womans magazine "real"
"we were having an argument when, without
warning, my partner hurled a cup of
scalding hot coffee in my face, then
grabbed my head and smashed it against the
doorframe cutting open my cheekbone.
Surely everyone would find this story
shocking - yet when the victim called the
police for help, the response was a curt
"isnt it about time you learned to look
after yourself"
any woman who had this experience would
quite rightly be outraged and demand the
protection she deserved. However men who
are physically assaulted by their female
partners face pain, injury but more the
most painfull degrading thing of all the
humiliation of ridicule.
Women it seems (as any pro lifer will
know..Ad lib by izzy) are as capable of
inflicting physical abuse as men.
Mankind, a mens civil rights charity,
recieves dozens of calls every weak to its
helpline from men who suffer serious
domestic violence from the women they live
with.
"the level of violence used by woemn
against there male partners is terrifying"
says stephen fitzgerald of mankind. "the
men who call us endure all kinds of abuse,
from black eyes to being knocked
unconscious and stabbed with kitchen
knives. But the one thing they all ahve
in common is a sense of shame. Because
peoples first thought is always the same
"well he is bigger than her so why dosnt
he defend himself?" but the fact is for
the vast majority of men, raising your
hand to a woman just isnt on the agenda,
even if she is half killing you.
Also women who abuse there male partners
tend to be treated leiniently by the law -
often recieving community service or
probation for even extreme acts of
violence. Yet a man who simply strikes a
women even in defence will be in deep
trouble.
Although most of us see domesic abuse as
something men do to women, a 1999
goverment report tells a very different
story. The study - the largest of its
kind, found that 4.2% of men and 4.2% of
women had suffered serious domestic
violence - a small but equal minority,
however domestic violence on a lesser note
is vertually none existant from men in
comparison to female abusers.
"we see this time and time again in
studies worldwide" says dr sean stitt
research shows that there is no particular
type of man who suffers this abuse. It
goes right across the spectrum just as
with female victims.
Real talked to two men who suffered at the
ands of their partners, and a woman whose
anger got out of control.
There follows three absolutly shocking
accounts doemstic violence three moving
real life stories but I cant be bothered
to type it up, I will just come to the
final conclusion by the magazine......
Over the last three decades, women have
adopeted an increasingly assertive role
at home and in the workplace and its this,
say experts, that has led the, to take on
more traditionally male charicteristics
psychotherapist gwen palmer has worked
with men who have been abused by their
female partners. She explains that the
opportunities available to women today
gives them more power than ever
"women becoming equal with men is
obviously a healthy change insociety" says
palmer "but with that power only few men
abuse their power in a relationship, more
and more women now with equal power are
abusing not only there male partners but
also a system built to (by men...Ad lib
from izzy) protect women from men.
This can lead to them wanting to
completely control their partner, which
can translate into violence, they have to
have everything their way and control
everything in their ife, including their
relationships. What feminism has helpped
women achieve is by no way or means a
samll victory but what women once hated
about men, they themselves have become.
Izzy says
females abuse there rights to kill unborn
infants why cant they abuse there rights
to assault men?
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2ferano
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Posted: 10-31-04 16:51pm
What is your point? Yes, some men are
abused too. Women are treated more
lienently? Um, how many men who abuse
women every actually get in trouble? It
is very rare, so I really don't see what
your point is.
And this has absolutely nothing to do with
abortion.
Females abuse there rights to kill unborn
infants why cant they abuse there rights
to assault men?
What in the world are you talking about?
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sandyallen
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Izzy Posted: 10-31-04 17:42pm
Did you just(key word, just) realize that
women abuse men,(news flash)this has been
going on for alot of years now!
Look at the kids in viet nam 3, 4 or 5
years old that were carrying a gun almost
twice their size, our men were k I l l e d
by these kids and babies because our men
did not want to hurt or k I l l their
children and babies, if I had a gun
pointing at me by some kid or baby, and I
had a gun on me, I would k I l l that kid
or baby, it is called survival.
I have lived thru abuse, I have seen all
sides of abuse, this is part of my job, so
you really don't have a point.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-31-04 17:54pm
"um, how many men who abuse women
every[day] actually get in trouble?"
a lot more than women who abuse men and
there are more abusive women than men or
at least the artical says so.
What the crack is, is this women are
becoming violent people, killing babies,
attacking men, and young children they
were never like this before, they were
respectable people who knew they were
better than men, now they think they are
better but in fact they are worse!
We men cant hand over the reins until you
girls have learnt what is right and
wrong,that is why I want to stop abortion
I want the women to be "equal"
i think that is the ironic part about the
contempary feminist movement is that
although most women are not contempary
feminists - they believe all women think
they way they do. The fact is that
although they are playing a critical role
for women they are in effect making women
exactly like men!
What are you going to gain girls? You
want to work - thats fine, you want the
same wages - thats fine, you want more -
fine! Blah blah blah but at the end of
the day what will you have? A good job?
A respectable career? A nice car? A big
house?, a ungrateful family that you never
get to see or want to? A life of your own
- on your own?
Men have had to endure this crp for
centuarys - then women come along and
start screaming we want it we are being
baddly done to... Ha!
You want it, you can have it - its all
lies big houses, good jobs, fast cars and
respected careers do not make you happy-
quite the opposite actually. There is
only one important thing in this world and
that is family - if havent got it you have
nothing, you girls want to slog your guts
out selling your souls for a few bucks
while us men stay at home laughing and
playing with the children, taking them
swimming, to the shops, to the beach etc -
I will be having some of that! - health
question the housework - I didnt ask you
to get a job - you wanted it!
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Izzy
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Posted: 10-31-04 17:59pm
"look at the kids in viet nam 3, 4 or 5
years old that were carrying a gun almost
twice their size, our men were k I l l e d
by these kids and babies because our men
did not want to hurt or k I l l their
children and babies, if I had a gun
pointing at me by some kid or baby, and I
had a gun on me, I would k I l l that kid
or baby"
you see what I mean, that is just low, I
would rather die and loose a war than kill
a single child.
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sandyallen
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Izzy Posted: 10-31-04 22:59pm
I love psychology!! Don't you realize,
men did kill baby's and children in viet
nam and they are still killing them when
they beat up a woman and cause her to
miscarry! You are such a little,
little weak little boy with nooooo common
sense, and you are very anti-woman!!!!
You are not a survivor!!!!!
I don't have a big, fast car or a big
house, I have a little home and a little
car, I am not a materialistic person I
have a very greatful proud family. I
have a job to where I can help people and
part of my job is to help people that
cannot, will not and do not know how to
help themselves, I do not depend on others
to support me, I have my pride, I am
happier than heck! I do not live in an
imaginary world like you do, you either
need to take more pills or less pills and
get with reality!
Abortion has been around for years and
years, even before the equal-rights
movement and will be around for many many
more years, you will not be able to change
it
get real!
Don't get me wrong I am not 100% for
abortion, I am pro-choice, I am not
walking in these women's and girls shoes.
But they should have a choice but alot of
times I do see a need for abortion, but I
do not judge them, I do my best to support
their decision and I try to help them.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-01-04 07:55am
You totally miss the point.... I was not
talking of any individual and I was not
saying it makes you unhappy to work.
"don't you realize, men did kill baby's
and children in viet nam and they are
still killing them when they beat up a
woman and cause her to miscarry!"
oh please of course I knew, it still dosnt
make it right just because men were doing
it.
As you say a man can kill a baby by
attacking a woman and causing her to
miscarry but a woman who chooses abortion
is terminating a pregnancy which is
nothing but a bunch of cells - really you
girls have no clue about equality- you
want to be equal then you want to recieve
special treatment when you want just
because your female and if you dont then
men are being unfair. I blame your
fathers - spoild little girls.
"you are such a little, little weak little
boy with nooooo common sense, and you are
very anti-woman!!!! You are not a
survivor!!!!!£
i am not anti woman - as soon as someone
disagrees with you man or woman I have
noticed become anti woman - I am not.
I may or may not have common sense but
thats for you to decide and its only your
opinion at the end of the day!
I am not a survivor I am a weak person who
needs protection by the law - I am exactly
the same as the unborn!
"abortion has been around for years and
years, even before the equal-rights
movement and will be around for many many
more years, you will not be able to change
it
get real!"
stop it - no, make it illegal - yes!
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JanetBee
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Posted: 11-01-04 09:02am
Why is that mysognistic person allowed on
here?
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-01-04 09:30am
Not that I am mysognistic but I didnt
realise it was illegal or against the
board rules!
You just want to take away freedom of
speach - again the ture colors are shown!
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PattyV
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Posted: 11-03-04 13:57pm
Yes,women abuse men.Yes,little children
are give guns and are told to kill.Yes,all
of this, and more happens in our
world.These things have been going on for
thousands of years and will continue
because of hatred and ignorance.I do not
see what this has to do with abortion-for
or against.Somehow,i think you would
reconsider your view against shooting a
child if the child had a automatic rifle
pointed at you and was about to pull the
trigger with no remorse.The beauty of some
of these groups that recruit children is
that the kids have no bias,they shoot and
kill because they are told to.The kids are
told that americans(or whomever they want
killed) are evil and wicked and they must
kill them.These groups take in orphans or
kids who are abandoned and feed and clothe
them and give them shelter and a sense of
a family.To a child who is hungry and
alone,they will do whatever is asked of
them to continue to be fed and taken care
of.These crazed leaders know this and prey
on the fear of being alone and hungry.This
is not new,just sad.Patty
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-05-04 11:15am
That is why we need to rescue and help
them not kill them, that only goes to
reinforce what the "crazed" leaders are
telling them
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2ferano
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Posted: 11-05-04 18:25pm
Omg I cannot stop laughing!
Deary get your head checked. More women
abuse men? What planet do you live on?
Women are becoming violent? No,
sweatheart women are starting to stick up
for themselves.
And until we have "learnt" hahahaha...I
couldn't read anymore after that! What
is the point?
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aanifant
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Posted: 11-06-04 08:56am
Izzy, why are you reading women's
magazines? Are you struggling to get in
touch with the woman in you? Or are you
looking for tips on how to please men
sexually?
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-06-04 16:36pm
I find them interesting and often funny
how they think they know about men
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2ferano
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:13pm
Lol! And the men's magazines don't act
like they know women?
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:33pm
No they just usualy exploite and belittle
them!
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2ferano
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Posted: 11-11-04 15:37pm
Yes, they do that too, but I mean the ones
where they have articles about "what women
want" and "what women like in bed" and
whatnot.
Yeah, the women's magazines have those
same articles about men, but I don't care
for either. Because really, they are
written by one man, or one woman and they
write what they like. Sure they find
people who like the same things and
interview them, but it just stereotypes
every male and every female.
Like the cosmo magazine. The sex
articles. Oh my goodness they crack me
up. I read a guy magazine once about
something like "ten tricks to make her
smile" or something of the sort all things
about sex. If any guy did half of those
things to me I would hurt him badly!
But anyway, my point was just that it
isn't just women's magazines that claim to
know the opposite sex, men's do the same
thing.