Guess Everyone Has a Problem About the Truth of Abortion...

Hi han: yes and yes. Wouldn't give it a second thought.

Why are your panties in such a knot over abortion anyway? You can't get pregnant and have no idea (and never will) regarding the magnitude of mothehood, being pregnant, birth, etc.

I just want to know.

I see mistakes of past that is good reason

What?

This is such an intense, interesting debate and I wanted to be a part of it and put in my two cents...

When I was younger, I used to be absolutely positively pro-life. Regardless of whatever circumstances a pregnant woman faced, I was confident that she should always always choose to have her baby. But now there are points that both sides make that I agree with.

I do agree that people who engage in sexual intercourse must understand fully the consequences of their actions before they take part in such an act. They need to know that the only 100% effective form of birth control is abstinence. You could use 2 or 3 different contraceptives and still get pregnant. I, personally, hate hearing about women who abort their babies because "they made a mistake". A "mistake" is accidentally knocking over your glass of soda, or wearing brown pants with black shoes. Getting pregnant is a consequence that both people should have realized before they agreed to have sex. In this sense, I dont believe that abortion is the answer.

On the other hand, many women become pregnant through rape. In these instances, the mother does not even have the chance to think of consequences because she is engaging in an act that she wants no part of in the first place! While it's not the unborn child's fault that this happened, its not the mother's fault either. Why should she have to completely alter her life to take care of a child whose creation was not her fault? Even if adoption is the answer, again, why should she have to live 9 months of her life with a pregnancy that was not her fault? There are other women who have pregnancies that are life-threatening. That is, if she carries the baby to term, she may die. In both these instances, abortion would be acceptable in my opinion.

Again, these are just my views on the issue. I'm not attacking anyone and i'm certainly not about to preach to anyone either. I'm simply stating how I feel

It is not the fetus's fault you mean.

Also, I am sorry, but if I am married and want to have sex with my husband, am on the pill and use every measure available to me to not fall pregnant, but then I do, it is my right to have an abortion. Some people just do not want children, but that does not mean we are just not allowed to have sex!

Exactly, hots -- otherwise they would also have to argue that someone who got lung cancer wasn't entitled to treatment if they smoked, or if you crashed your car you'd just have to live with your injuries, tough luck. Or if you have sex and catch a disease, well -- did you voluntarily have sex? Then even if you were wearing a condom, you knew it was 100% effective, so no penicillin for you!

Insurancegirl wrote:
i don't think anyone should have the choice to play the role of god.

~~i totally agree with that.
Only god can bring you into this world, and he should be the only one to take you out of this world.
He is the one who says its time to go with him, as a mother (planed pregnancy or not) its not your job.

Hotasfrick wrote:
it is not the fetus's fault you mean.

Also, I am sorry, but if I am married and want to have sex with my husband, am on the pill and use every measure available to me to not fall pregnant, but then I do, it is my right to have an abortion. Some people just do not want children, but that does not mean we are just not allowed to have sex!

~yes I agree that woman have the right to not have children.
If you are going to have sex and take that chance of becoming a mother then you should take reasonability to be a mother.
You just can’t go off killing people you don’t like or don’t want in your life, you would be put in jail for homicide.
So then why is it okay for a woman to kill an unborn child?
That baby breaths inside of its mother.

I have always said that if you don’t want a baby then practice safer sex!

I think there should be a law to where abortion should be a crime.
I think that a woman who kills an unborn child should be put on trial for 1st degree homicide.

If that child was living out side of the mother, and she killed him / her she would be in jail.

That child breaths what you breath, it eats what you eat, it moves kicks and turns over inside of its mother. Who gives her the right to take that away.

I just think that’s it wrong the way so many of us think.

I don’t understand how so many woman in the world can kill a child.

Its sick and wrong.

I’ve never had an abortion, and I never will.

I was 14 when my daughter was conceived and 15 when I had her.

She’s now 5 years old and I take her to kindergarten every morning.

We also have a 2 year old with downs syndrome and 9 week old twin boys.

I have been with my husband for 7 years, and have been married 1 ½ years.

The thought never ever crossed my mind when I became pregnant with my daughter to abort her.

That’s my baby, I brought her into this world and its my job to take care of her.

There was no way I was going to kill my baby because I was not “more careful” while having sex with my boyfriend. (who is my dh now)

anyways, I only came here to see what this forum is like.

I’m a mod for 3 different forums (not that any of you care) but I am just plain sick to my stomach with this post.

I know that every one lives their live different, and we all think very different also.

But when it come to having children, we should all be thinking the same way.

How can any body in their right mind do such a thing to a child.

I know I may make several mad over this, and I don’t see why.

I guess I have respect for others and I take on the responsibility that comes my way.

For being as young as I am I believe I have a strong head on my shoulders.

I wouldn’t change a single thing in my life and if I had to, it defiantly wouldn’t be my children.

This will probably be the last time I visit this place, but I want to say that no matter what any body says on here, it wont change a single way others think or feel.

If that were the case we wouldn‘t have woman still aborting their unborn children. .

The woman who keep getting pregnant to turn around and abort them as a form of birth control, you are the ladies that make me sick and should be taught a very hard and curl lesson!

Wow, I have a hard time believing that insurance girl is over the age of 12 judging from her posts. Why not go back to the teen pregnancy forum.

Mcflurry, - sounds like someone is in need of a pat on the back... Or maybe a sticker... Yeah, a 15 year old girl should have plenty of knowledge to be a fantastic mother. Way to validate your actions by being anti-abortion.

As for god. There is no god, unless you believe it, my friend.

Lots of love,
jesse

~~mcflurry, - sounds like someone is in need of a pat on the back... Or maybe a sticker... Yeah, a 15 year old girl should have plenty of knowledge to be a fantastic mother. Way to validate your actions by being anti-abortion. ~~

i read it loud and clear that you can’t read!!

Um hello i’m not 15! Duh!

And if your going to call me by my name health forum get it right!

Your age has nothing to do with you being a good mother, at least I don’t kill my children, they are still here living with me in my bran spankin new house. They drive around in our 2 new cars!

I’m a stay at home mom, my husband has a great job and mommy and daddy don’t help us!

I don’t need some old hag on here telling me i’m a terrible parent for being 15 when I had my daughter.

A terrible parent is one who kills their unborn child.

I would love to see a woman (in their 30’s) who has been what i’ve been through at my age right now.
(i know there are people out there!)

i could have chosen I abort my son who has downs syndrome because he has downs, but I didn't because its wrong. I know a lot of woman who would have.

I do deserve a pat on the back for being the strong and the responsible person I am!

You deserve to keep your sad little opinions about your sad little life to yourself. You are very lucky that you had the choice to do what you did. It is only because you had the option to abort when you were too stupid not to get pregnant at 14 that you are not now being condemned the way thousands of women were when they didn't have the choice. Wouldn't the world be a great place if it was full of 20 year old women with four brats and nothing better to do than to preach to those who know that having kids is more than popping them out because you feel like it.

I think instead of getting pregnant, you should have stayed in school to learn some grammar.

Way to prove my point, kiddo!

Kisses,
jesse

I did stay in school, can't you read or did you just skip over that part.

My children are not brats, maybe to your way of thinkng because they are still alive and have what they want? good way of thinking!

Poopoopoo wrote:
you deserve to keep your sad little opinions about your sad little life to yourself. You are very lucky that you had the choice to do what you did. It is only because you had the option to abort when you were too stupid not to get pregnant at 14 that you are not now being condemned the way thousands of women were when they didn't have the choice. Wouldn't the world be a great place if it was full of 20 year old women with four brats and nothing better to do than to preach to those who know that having kids is more than popping them out because you feel like it.

You know what health forum, my life is not a "sad little story". It has its ups and downs like every other family.

Children are what make a family, I know its more then just "popping" them out. And for you info, they don't just "fall out"

so now i'm stupid for not aborting my babies? So your suppose to abort each baby you get pregnant with. Yeah that’s the bright thing to do.

I don't understand you ladies on here, this is suppose to be a debate about abortion, so just because someone has a opinion you have to call them names? Tell them how stupid they are for taking care of there responabilites? So now its wrong to stand up for what you think is right?

I find it funny that all you have to do is tell me how bad of a person I am, tell me i'm stupid for keeping me kids, that i'm dumb for finishing high school and going to nursing school.

Don't you have anything better to do?

I don't think anyone is a bad person for making choices that were right for them at the time.If someone chooses to have a child at a very young age,that's your choice.It is also someone's choice to continue with the pregnancy-or not.Not many women would choose to have a down's syndrome child,but they are making a choice that they feel is right for them.I have had many down's pateints and I truly feel that these are god's purest souls and he is very particular to whom he gives these souls to.Again-only my opinion.I do not condone or condemn anyone for their choices-i would not want anyone to do that to me.I do,however support the right to choose if and when a woman has a child.Patty

First of all mcclurg, how can god be a "he" and give and take away life? Only women have the power to give life and take it away. Furthermore, how can jesus bleed for life? Only women bleed for life.I think people are afraid of that-mostly men. And where is your almighty "god" when millions of women and children are living below poverty line. I mean I thikn it's great you have two cars to shuttle your kids around but what about the women who cannot afford to eat? It's wonderful you love being with your children and living for them but frankly that life for me would be intolerable. I had an abortion and a day has not gone by that I regretted it. Because my life comes before anything or anyone.

I'm really tired of people impressing on women that because they have a womb, they are the womb and cannot claim any power or control over that. Instead we must be incubators for the sacred male "seed"


you think abortion is killing? Why does little button nose bush thikn he can kill 100,000's of iraqi civilans and still pass under your rule of only god can take away and give life? Or is he receiving messages from "god" which is what half of america thinks anyway.

**if you think being amother is so wonderful, that is wonderful for you that your life has turned out that way. If you can't understand that is not what every woman wants, then you need to learn a bit of empathy in your saintliness.**

i do understand that its not what every woman wants, I have nothing wrong with that.

Its totally your choice to have a baby, I just do understand why if you get pregnant and don't want the baby, why abort it? Why not just give it way?

I also want to say I believe for any reason a woman is going to have an abortion, it shall be done for "medical reason"

not because "i'm not ready for a baby in my life right now"

i think abortion is wrong, if your reason is because i'm not ready.

If you knew that a few hours after your baby is born that it will die, would you abort? To me I still would want to give my baby a change to take a breath of the air we take, just to spend time with him / her before its time for them to go.

I a lot of people think that’s wrong, and I can also understand that.

Why would you want your baby to suffer in that way? (what if your baby is in no pain?) then is it still the same.

The more I dig into this topic it gets harder and harder to say what you would do.

Unless you have been their you don't know what its like.

I have never been their, so I have no idea what any of you have been through, all I can say it that I don't think I could do it.

But if the time ever came, I can't tell you right now what i'd do. Because to tell you the truth I don't know.

It makes me so sad just thinking of aborting a baby, but I also know that in some cases its the right thing to do for some woman.

This is a very touchy subject, and thats never going to change.

Sorry if I made anyone up set, or mad at me.

I'm not a mean person at all like I made myself out to be here.

I don't know what came over me when I called a couple of you the b word, for that i'm sorry.

No one has any business telling a woman what she can or can't do with her own body. If I don't want to be pregnant, i.E. Not just don't want a baby but do not want to be pregnant, then I have the right to abort that fetus. Just as you have the right not to.

If you think it is wrong, don't have an abortion. As i've pointed out before, being pregnant -- however "natural" you think it is -- is not a healthy thing, and to some of us it's actually repugnant. Sorry if that offends anyone, but it's true.

Would you suggest a woman continue with a pregnancy if she has abused drugs and/or alcohol during her pregnancy and will probably give birth to a child that no one would adopt??Not too many people out there who would adopt a fetal alcohol syndrome or a crack baby.Would that child be better living his/her life in state care until they are dumped on the street at 18,totally unprepared to be a productive member of society??That is what has happened to so many of the kids in state care.Abandoned at birth or taken by the child welfare system at birth because the mother delivered a child with drugs in the baby's system.No one wants these unfortunate kids and they linger in an overburdened system until they reach 18 and are released into society and are expected to have a normal life.If you have never held a crack baby,it is an unfortunate sight.They cry and cry-as if they know that they were not ever given a chance to fulfil their potential from the start.These are the children who have adhd,emotional problems,developmental delays and on and on.Fine for the women who have these children and give them up for adoption,they do not see the sad faces of their kids,the ones no one wants.Should they be commended for not terminating their pregnancies???I don't see that they have done these kids any favors.Again,just my opinion.Patty