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Why Does the Sun Make Me Sick? Posted: 10-15-03 22:07pm
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sharon
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Sun Posted: 10-15-03 22:25pm
Hi szeeba, i'm the one having the most
recent complaints about the flouresant
lighting. I don't claim to know all the
answers,but I know the sun drains us like
someone wringing out a wet wash wrag! It
has to do with the uv rays. Sucks all our
energy. Why exactly I don't know, but I
really miss being able to enjoy the sun.
Your right, lady brannon will know the
answer. I'm sure she will let us know as
soon as she reads this. I get blisters on
my lips. It's hard to keep something on
them since I don't wear lip stick and I am
always thirsty and that makes it hard to
keep lip gloss on. Plus it makes my drink
and food taste bad.
i'm in the same boat as you; i've been
diagnosed since april 2002. I hadn't had
any difficulty with sun sensitivity until
probably april of this year, a full year
after my diagnosis.
Almost everyone you talk to who has lupus
has some kind of sun sensitivity; others
have sensitivity to fluorescent lights.
I do not know how this has come about, I
am sure others like ladybrannon probably
know more about the how and why (hi
ladybrannon).
When I get too much exposure to the sun I
become very dizzy. This usually happens
on a very, very sunny hot summer day. If
the day is "normal" and I get too much
exposure, I develop a very high fever the
next day that is hard to break; it usually
takes 24 hours.
There is a product made by the rit people
which is called sun guard. It provides
an spf of 30 and is for your clothes.
Most clothing if washed regulary has an
spf of 5. This is great for people like
us.
Also, the long sleeves and long pants,
even in summer, are a great idea. You
might also consider wearing some kind of
hat to protect your head, esp. If you
develop a rash. I have a collection of
sunhats and a couple of baseball hats that
I alternate.
Hope this helps some.
Clarebear
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tbds2000
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Oct 2003 Posts: 10 Location: Grayslake, IL
Sun Vs Us Posted: 10-16-03 03:40am
I've asked the same ??I do not have
intense reactions to the sun yet, but have
been told to keep out of it as much as
possible, so I wear spf 45 year round,hats
or visors and sunglasses. At 49, with hot
flashes, long sleeves are tough to
tolerate, so I keep a white shirt in the
car to pull up over the arm that is
exposed....Tinting on your car windows can
help..You can get special permission from
the state if there are restrictions on
window tinting...Just ask your dmv for a
medical exemptions form .
From my research, I think our sensitivity
has something to do with our skin being
the largest organ in our body. When
exposed to sun, we tend to "burn" even as
we tan. A sunburn is an inflammation of
the skin. There is some kind of cellular
change for everyone....But lupies need to
avoid inflammation of any kind so we do
not trigger our immune systems to fight
it....Thus setting ourselves up for a
"friendly fire" situation.That's why even
those of us who are not affected
dramatically should avoid over-exposure
because it can possibly trigger a flare in
our bodies confusion about fighting the
inflammation and going after healthy parts
too. I'm sure there is a great scientific
explanation for this, but this is how I
have been able to explain it to myself. I
am open for further clarification or
correction if anybody knows more.
So, do I stay in the house during
daylight?? I probably should, but I
don't. I love to garden, so I work on the
shady side of the house and follow the
shade around. I try to walk on the shady
side of the street and have been known to
use an umbrella on sunny days when out and
about.
I teach driver education and spend most
of my day in a car....Have tinting (light)
on my windows, but also just added a
mustang convertable to our fleet. I know
I should probably not have the top down ,
but at my age and the joy it brings my
students, it sure makes for a wonderful
day....You can't beat a beautiful summer
day with good tunes on the radio and
driving around town "topless" i'm sure I might
pay someday, but I also feel that we need
to make the best of every good day we
have.......When I was first diagnosed, I
was very frightened and felt that fun
times were over. It scares me that this
dumb thing will probably kill me
someday....Then again, I could get hit by
a bus tomorrow. So, I decided to take my
meds, obey my doc's as best I can, live
each day to it's fullest and watch out for
buses!!! I have really done quite well
ever since............Take care all. :d
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sharon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Tbds2000 Posted: 10-16-03 06:58am
Hi, and if I felled to before, wellcome!
I hear you! All my life I spent as much
time in the sun as possible. When I was
a child and lived with an abusive parent
part time ,the sun became my friend. The
best thing as a child is to avoid a
confrontation with the abusing person.
So I spent most of my days out in the
sun. I felt comforted by it,since there
was no warmth coming to me from inside
the home.
I've spent most of my married life in
places where the sun is dominate. Cal,
hawaii,guam,florida,texas,and now so.-ga.
It's kinda hard to avoid it. I too love
to garden, and did not listen to my
doctors warnings. The 5 yrs we lived in
texas, where I was diagnosed with lupas,
we had 5-ac. Of land, and I spent alot of
my time out in the hot west texas sun.
I'm paying for it now! I would still
have done it,because I loved every minute
I spent out there. We have to live our
lives to the fullest. I just wish I could
have had a few more yrs to enjoy it. I
feel like i'm loosing time with an old
friend.
Well, that's my nickels worth!
Sharon
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Jenn
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Joined: 09 Sep 2003 Posts: 78 Location: Canada
Sun Sensitivity Posted: 10-16-03 07:36am
Hi guys,
the way my dermatologist explained sun
sensitivity to me is....
Essentially lupus patients are allergic to
the uv rays that come from the sun or
flouresent lighting. When we go out in
the uv rays our body (for lack of a better
term) has an allergic reaction. It
doesn't take long, I only have to be
exposed for minutes. It can affect people
in different ways like high temp,
dizziness, fatigue, rash, burn,etc...
my doc told me not to go out in the sun
and I got upset but she simply said"if you
were allergic to peanuts would you eat
peanut butter". It can trigger flares or
with me a hospital stay. I don't think
most people with lupus realize how
dangerous the sun is. I didn't until I
got 2nd degree burns, I was only out for
20 minutes with spf 30 on. There are
still places on my shoulders where I have
no feeling from nerve damage.
i'm not trying to bring everyone down but
I now realize how important it is that we
stay out of the uv rays.
I wear spf 60 and long sleeves. I never
go out in the garden or stay outdoors
exposed for more than 5 minutes. This is
not how I want to be but I want to have a
good quality of life. Thank goodness it
snows from november to april here. I
still wear spf 60 in the winter but the
cool air feels nice.
keep smiling,
jenn
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LadyBrannon
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Posted: 10-16-03 12:20pm
Jenn...You nailed it. It is essentially
an allergic reaction. I will warn you;
alot of our reactions (with more than the
sun) can mimic allergic reactions, as I am
sure you have noticed...Rashes, stomach
upset, etc. Thus, as you can conclude,
allergies *are* an autoimmue reaction.
The lupus reaction *seems* to be more
rudimentary than an allergic reaction
alone though.
Remember also that some people are also
sensitive to the heat that goes along with
the uv light. The heat, from the sun, can
further excascerbate the issues. So,
beware of the heat as well... I have a
lupus friend in tx that is in her late 60s
and everytime she got overheated, she
would react as if she had been in the sun
for 20 or so minutes.
Wear your sunglasses, wear your sun
*block* and try not to go out if you don't
have to...Especially if you are overly
sensitive.
Hugs,
ladybrannon
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sharon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
the Sun Posted: 10-16-03 18:17pm
Hi all, I went to jacksonville fl. Today
to have lunch with our extended family who
are visiting from ill. Jax is about 50ish
miles to the south side from where we live
now.
After lunch ,my hubby wanted to take them
to see our old neighborhood, and we ended
up at the beach.He wasn't thinking, and I
didnt want to spoil their fun. We parked
and walked a short way , it was nice and
cool. Total of 15 mim. Or so.
I wore my hat,and sun glasses. But
forgot to put on my sunblock. I carry it
in my purse, I just wasn't thinking.In
about an hour or less ,my neck on the
right side felt strange.
It was a raw feeling, and then it started
throbing!!
It's been about 5 hrs. And it's getting
worse! It now covers all the right side
of my neck and the top of my shoulder.
It feels like when you skin your knees
and it burns!
I will not be repeating this field trip
again!
Something has changed with my lupus. I'm
haveing more problems than ever before.
I'm not due to see my rh doc. Till nov.
11th. I can guess why the burnings
from, but why is it throbing?
Sharon
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LadyBrannon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Posted: 10-16-03 18:34pm
Sharon...Call your doctor and tell them
you *need* to be seen...Please.
We will be thinking about you!
Hugs,
ladybrannon
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sharon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Concerned Posted: 10-16-03 20:37pm
Lady b, what do you think is causing this?
It's now spread around to the front of
my shoulder and neck and uper chest area.
It feels so weird!
The throbing has gone up into my ear and
jaw on the right side. It's not
constant, but like shooting pain.
My skin is very sensitive to touch.
I will call my doctor tomorrow if this
continues. It would not help to go to the
er tonight, because they would do nothing
but run up me a large bill I can't
afford.
If it gets bad!! I'll go, but only
then.
I haven't had a lot of problems with the
sun myself, but the heat makes me really
sick to my stomach. Just driving to work
{about 10 blocks) and the sun shining in
the windshield makes me feel really sick.
After I get to work,(inside), I feel much
better.
I've always heard I shouldn't spend much
time in the sun, and my first doc told me
to wear sunscreen,wear a hat (i'm not
really a hat pearson), sunglasses,and
absolutely stay in from the hours of 10am
and 3pm in the summer. I really didn't
think much about it, but now... I think
maybe I should.
I would like to hear more if anyone would
like to share their experiences.
Luck&love sharon, I hope this gets
better. Go see your doc.
Hugs
kris
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LadyBrannon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 506 Location: TX
Sharon Posted: 10-16-03 22:33pm
I have no idea the cause (other than you
saying it seemed to be directly related to
the sun), but either way (start of a flare
or the result of some other illness) your
body is *not* reacting very well.
Furthermore, we all know that lupus, at
*any*time can decide to get worse...You
said yourself that you thought your body
was doing some different things. *please*
go to the doctor asap!
I'll be thinking about you! Hugs,
ladybrannon
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sharon
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Joined: 17 Jul 2003 Posts: 191
Still Trucking! Posted: 10-17-03 07:45am
Good morning all
I didn't sleep well again last night,
but i'm still here!
my sholder is still hurting , but not as
bad as last night. My skin is very tender
in the affected areas.
I've canceled all activitys planned
today. I'll just rest as much as possible
today.
I plan on calling my doctor today and see
what they tell me. I'll let you
know........Sharon