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jenifercarrillo

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Any Suggestions Would Be Great!
Posted: 11-15-04 23:35pm

I know that a few women in this forum have heard my story a few times and are sick of it but I really need some advice. My boyfriend whom is 21 is currently on house arrest awaiting his trial on the 22 of november for sagitory rape. Im only 16 and im like 2 months pregnant. The problem I have is with my mom, right after greg was put in jail (he got out on bail) my mother told me that greg was going to have nothing to do with my baby or my life what so ever. This is a very big change considering he lived with us just a few months ago! Today is the first time I have talked to greg in almost 4 weeks and after speaking with him for two seconds I have concluded that he is the man for me and I want my baby and myself to have a wonderful life with greg. The problem I am having is that my mother wants to adopt my baby for "leverage" as she calls it so I will finish college, and for insurance purposes. But I want the baby to be mine and only mine and I know that our (greg and my) plan that includes me moving in with him when I turn 17 or even 18 will not happen because my mom will have custody of my baby. This is ruining my relationship with greg and mentally it's tearing me up inside because I have yet to tell greg of my mom's "plan" to keep me in school. Im wondering what everyone thought about this because my mom told me that if I dont let her adopt the baby that I have to give it up for a closed adoption with other people. The houston police have told her she can make this decision because I am a minor. So my battle is when I turn 17(i will turn 17 before I have the baby) so I suddenly tell my mother that the baby will not be adopted to her and leave, or should I risk my relationship with greg by letting my mom adopt my baby?
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mommax3

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Posted: 11-15-04 23:52pm

Are you still going to be considered a minor at 17, I have never heard of anything like that in all my life, sounds too crazy to be true, you could have your own made for tv movie.. No one could make me give my baby up, I don;t know what to tell you where are you from again? Did you hear any cop say this or did your mom tell you as a scare tactic? Have you looked into it?
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BeckLyn

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Posted: 11-16-04 09:47am

Wow. I'm so sorry. I have a few questions. How do u know that they can take ur baby cuz ur a minor? Is this just ur mom saying this to scare u? Secondly, won't u still be considered a minor at 17? And if so, if u leave, won't it be considered running away? Then the police can bring u in if they find u.... Also, is greg in trouble for staturory rape of u or someone else? Sorry so many questions, I just want to understand what is going on. I'm here to listen and to help if I can.
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Tazzy D

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Posted: 11-16-04 09:56am

Honey seek some advice from your school counselor, also check with the courts on emancipation,and talk to someone with legal aid to get legal advice about your baby and the laws as well. Every state is different. And also ask or just go to the court house to fight for your man and let them know that it was concentual, and that he lived with you guys. They might drop the charges, but if your mom goes through with this rape stuff and he is found guilty I do know that you wont be able to pursue him later in life for child support if you guys were to depart from each other. My friend is going through this right now.
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BeckLyn

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Posted: 11-16-04 10:14am

Why wound't she be able to pursue for child support later if he's found guilty? He is still the father!!!!!!!!!!???
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sheeridinprincess

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Posted: 11-16-04 13:44pm

I had a friend this happened to his girlfriend was 15 and he was 19 everyones parents didn't mind but the state did. Its something thats not going to change. However I am not sure that your mom can make you do anything when it comes to giving up your bby thats your baby and the law is thre to protect you. Seek legal advice. Theres a legal aide in everystate that offer advice try calling your states legal aide
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Galaxy16

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Posted: 11-16-04 13:58pm

She cant take your baby because you would have to sign for it.
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mommax3

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Posted: 11-16-04 14:36pm

becklyn wrote:
why wound't she be able to pursue for child support later if he's found guilty? He is still the father!!!!!!!!!!???


not while he is in jail, but it would probably just be something on his record, so she should be able to
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jessamyn

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Posted: 11-16-04 23:02pm

Babe but do you think another night like the one before he went to jail will happen? You dont want to raise your baby in that environment... And he needs to gain citznship!!1
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jenifercarrillo

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Posted: 11-18-04 21:14pm

Yes he is in trouble for sagitory rape of me. I did hear the police tell my mother that because I am 16 and she is my legal guardian that she decides what happens to the baby. Its some messed up law in texas, well when I turn 17 im not going to be considered an adult because of my age but because I will have had my baby and in texas after I have my baby i'm considered an amancipated minor. And then the police wont have really anything they can do about greg and I being togather. And jessamyn I do agree with you but it's kinda the lesser of two evils now and I dont think that greg would ever do anything to hurt me or the baby, but I understand him wanted to get at my mom, now I want to! The real question is should I just abandon my mom because after I have the baby I can really do what I want. I just wanted to know what ya'll thought about me just up and leaving my mother with out any notice. The reason I cant tell her my plans is because she can make me start to have a relationship with a adopted family and I dont want to get close to someone and then break their heart when I dont give them my baby!
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Tazzy D

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Posted: 11-19-04 09:50am

No one can really answer that question for you. Everyone's opinions are different, but you need to do whats best for you and also what is best for your baby 1. If you move out is he going to be there to support you and a baby, can he provide a place to live for the three of you, pay bills, and provide all other things necessary. 2 or can you do it by yourself? 3. If you walk out of your moms house and life she just might not be there when you want to come back and some people do need or go back. 4. Are you ready to be a mom physically, emotionally, and finacialy? It takes alot to be a mom. So whatever choice you make just make the right one. Good luck
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BeckLyn

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Posted: 11-19-04 10:25am

I see where u r coming from. I wouldnt want to give up my baby (someday when I have one!) and ur mom is most likely just trying to do what she thinks is best for u. But face it, sometimes parents dont know whats best for us. And sometimes we have to make our own mistakes. If we dont make our own decisions growing up, how r we going to mature and make it on our own in the world? U need to be sure what u r choosing to will be the best for the baby, and for yourself. Then think about greg and ur mom. If ur mom really loves u and wants u to be happy, she may be upset for awhile when u leave, but shell get over it eventually. It may hurt her, but she needs to realize that it hurts u to leave also, but it would hurt u more to give up ur baby. Good luck.
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lil_blaze2004

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Posted: 11-19-04 11:00am

Oh boy..... I don't know how it works in the states but in canada once you are 14 you are no longer considered a "medical" minor, meaning anything to do with you and your body can not be taken away from you unless you want it. Also the docs are not allowed telling your parents anything. This is kind of like the er episode from last night.....Hmmm... I really don't know wht to say except what others have said--talk to a counselor, or a lawyer would be better- call ummmm.. What is it called in the sates-- dept. Of child welfare????? (i think) find out everything u can. I'm 99% sure that at your age your Twisted Evil mother has no say about what happens to your child. But like I said i'm not positive about american laws. Good luck and keep us updated!!!
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querida

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Posted: 11-19-04 11:10am

I know that in situations like this people commit themselves to "positions" that put them on opposite sides of the fence from each other. And I know that it might seem like you are stuck in a situation where you have to choose one side of the fence or the other. Your mom or your boyfriend, your mom or your baby, etc.

This is your life, though, and you have your own legal rights and your own responsibilities. You're only 16, but you've made choices already that have put you in a position where you have to be mature and take responsibility for those choices. This isn't a romance novel, where you can run off to be with your older boyfriend, the love of your life, and you and he and the baby will live happily ever after. And this isn't medieval france, where your mother can take away your child and lock you up in a convent to keep you and the baby away from your wicked seducer.

The fact of the matter is that you do not currently have the ability to adequately care for yourself and your baby once it is born without support. "emancipation" is fine for young people who can truly do better on their own than they can tied to their parents, but from what you've said here that is not the case in your situation. Even assuming the "best" case scenario and your boyfriend is not jailed for statutory rape and you find legal counsel to keep your mother from adopting your child, if you throw up a wall between you and your mother, you're going to be left with very little choice but to depend entirely on this 21-year-old boyfriend to support you and your child indefinitely. Even assuming his intentions are the most honorable, 21 years old is hardly more than a kid itself, and the fact that he was living with you and your mom for a while suggests that he is having trouble supporting even himself.

Making a choice that subjects you and your baby to the willingness of a 21-year-old guy to support you, and that in the best of situations dooms the three of you to a life of poverty and isolation from your extended family---that's not "emancipation."

most likely, your mother wants to see you make mature, responsible choices. The best way to relieve her fears about your future is to make mature, responsible choices about your present. Yes, you should get legal counsel about your rights regarding your child. Your boyfriend also has rights, by the way, as the father of the child, and he is certainly an adult. So, your mother's plans to cut him out of the picture entirely are probably not based on sound legal advice, and they are probably not thought out very clearly. This actually says good things about your chances of sitting down and talking reasonably about the future of your family.

If you don't start making threats about emancipation and running away and all the rest, but instead recognize the good sense of what your mother is saying--that you need to finish school and accept the support of your family until you're prepared to support yourself--you'll probably be able to come to an agreement that is acceptable to everyone.

By the way, making mature, responsible decisions includes recognizing the mistakes you've made in the past and not repeating them. Planning on shacking up with your 21-year-old boyfriend is certainly not going to reassure your mother that this baby won't have four siblings within three years. If this guy is the love of your life, then you have plenty of time to be with him, and you don't need to make decisions out of desperation that you're going to lose him. Instead, you can focus on what is best for all of you in the long run. And that is most likely going to be (a) getting on birth control as soon as this baby is born, and (b) living with your mother while boyfriend gets his own life together independently, while providing support for both you and the baby and maintaining frequent contact with both of you.

By the way, it doesn't have to be a choice between your mother adopting the baby and terminating your parental rights or you running away and taking on the full burden yourself. You and your boyfriend could agree to allow the court to name your mother the legal guardian of the baby until you reach age 18 or graduate from college or whatever. That won't terminate your rights or your boyfriend's rights as the baby's parents, but it will empower your mother to make the decisions necessary for someone supporting an infant (i.E., healthcare decisions and the like). That might give all of you the reassurance you need.
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