Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 143 Location: Houston,Tx
Any Suggestions Would Be Great! Posted: 11-15-04 23:35pm
I know that a few women in this forum have
heard my story a few times and are sick of
it but I really need some advice. My
boyfriend whom is 21 is currently on house
arrest awaiting his trial on the 22 of
november for sagitory rape. Im only 16
and im like 2 months pregnant. The
problem I have is with my mom, right after
greg was put in jail (he got out on bail)
my mother told me that greg was going to
have nothing to do with my baby or my life
what so ever. This is a very big change
considering he lived with us just a few
months ago! Today is the first time I
have talked to greg in almost 4 weeks and
after speaking with him for two seconds I
have concluded that he is the man for me
and I want my baby and myself to have a
wonderful life with greg. The problem I
am having is that my mother wants to adopt
my baby for "leverage" as she calls it so
I will finish college, and for insurance
purposes. But I want the baby to be mine
and only mine and I know that our (greg
and my) plan that includes me moving in
with him when I turn 17 or even 18 will
not happen because my mom will have
custody of my baby. This is ruining my
relationship with greg and mentally it's
tearing me up inside because I have yet to
tell greg of my mom's "plan" to keep me in
school. Im wondering what everyone
thought about this because my mom told me
that if I dont let her adopt the baby that
I have to give it up for a closed adoption
with other people. The houston police
have told her she can make this decision
because I am a minor. So my battle is
when I turn 17(i will turn 17 before I
have the baby) so I suddenly tell my
mother that the baby will not be adopted
to her and leave, or should I risk my
relationship with greg by letting my mom
adopt my baby?
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mommax3
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 1134 Location: Virginia
Posted: 11-15-04 23:52pm
Are you still going to be considered a
minor at 17, I have never heard of
anything like that in all my life, sounds
too crazy to be true, you could have your
own made for tv movie.. No one could make
me give my baby up, I don;t know what to
tell you where are you from again? Did
you hear any cop say this or did your mom
tell you as a scare tactic? Have you
looked into it?
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BeckLyn
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 476
Posted: 11-16-04 09:47am
Wow. I'm so sorry. I have a few
questions. How do u know that they can
take ur baby cuz ur a minor? Is this
just ur mom saying this to scare u?
Secondly, won't u still be considered a
minor at 17? And if so, if u leave,
won't it be considered running away?
Then the police can bring u in if they
find u.... Also, is greg in trouble for
staturory rape of u or someone else?
Sorry so many questions, I just want to
understand what is going on. I'm here to
listen and to help if I can.
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 11-16-04 09:56am
Honey seek some advice from your school
counselor, also check with the courts on
emancipation,and talk to someone with
legal aid to get legal advice about your
baby and the laws as well. Every state is
different. And also ask or just go to the
court house to fight for your man and let
them know that it was concentual, and that
he lived with you guys. They might drop
the charges, but if your mom goes through
with this rape stuff and he is found
guilty I do know that you wont be able to
pursue him later in life for child support
if you guys were to depart from each
other. My friend is going through this
right now.
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BeckLyn
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 476
Posted: 11-16-04 10:14am
Why wound't she be able to pursue for
child support later if he's found guilty?
He is still the father!!!!!!!!!!???
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sheeridinprincess
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 05 Nov 2004 Posts: 98 Location: Oregon
Posted: 11-16-04 13:44pm
I had a friend this happened to his
girlfriend was 15 and he was 19 everyones
parents didn't mind but the state did.
Its something thats not going to change.
However I am not sure that your mom can
make you do anything when it comes to
giving up your bby thats your baby and the
law is thre to protect you. Seek legal
advice. Theres a legal aide in everystate
that offer advice try calling your states
legal aide
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Galaxy16
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 Oct 2004 Posts: 66 Location: kentucky
None Posted: 11-16-04 13:58pm
She cant take your baby because you would
have to sign for it.
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mommax3
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 06 Nov 2004 Posts: 1134 Location: Virginia
Posted: 11-16-04 14:36pm
becklyn
wrote:
why wound't she be able to
pursue for child support later if he's
found guilty? He is still the
father!!!!!!!!!!???
not while he is in jail, but it would
probably just be something on his record,
so she should be able to
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jessamyn
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Joined: 18 Aug 2004 Posts: 4116 Location: San Diego, CA
Thanks: 11
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Posted: 11-16-04 23:02pm
Babe but do you think another night like
the one before he went to jail will
happen? You dont want to raise your baby
in that environment... And he needs to
gain citznship!!1
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jenifercarrillo
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Oct 2004 Posts: 143 Location: Houston,Tx
Posted: 11-18-04 21:14pm
Yes he is in trouble for sagitory rape of
me. I did hear the police tell my mother
that because I am 16 and she is my legal
guardian that she decides what happens to
the baby. Its some messed up law in
texas, well when I turn 17 im not going to
be considered an adult because of my age
but because I will have had my baby and in
texas after I have my baby i'm considered
an amancipated minor. And then the police
wont have really anything they can do
about greg and I being togather. And
jessamyn I do agree with you but it's
kinda the lesser of two evils now and I
dont think that greg would ever do
anything to hurt me or the baby, but I
understand him wanted to get at my mom,
now I want to! The real question is
should I just abandon my mom because after
I have the baby I can really do what I
want. I just wanted to know what ya'll
thought about me just up and leaving my
mother with out any notice. The reason I
cant tell her my plans is because she can
make me start to have a relationship with
a adopted family and I dont want to get
close to someone and then break their
heart when I dont give them my baby!
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Tazzy D
Advanced Support Team
Joined: 30 Oct 2004 Posts: 3718 Location: , va
Posted: 11-19-04 09:50am
No one can really answer that question for
you. Everyone's opinions are different,
but you need to do whats best for you and
also what is best for your baby 1. If you
move out is he going to be there to
support you and a baby, can he provide a
place to live for the three of you, pay
bills, and provide all other things
necessary. 2 or can you do it by
yourself? 3. If you walk out of your
moms house and life she just might not be
there when you want to come back and some
people do need or go back. 4. Are you
ready to be a mom physically, emotionally,
and finacialy? It takes alot to be a mom.
So whatever choice you make just make the
right one. Good luck
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BeckLyn
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Nov 2004 Posts: 476
Posted: 11-19-04 10:25am
I see where u r coming from. I wouldnt
want to give up my baby (someday when I
have one!) and ur mom is most likely just
trying to do what she thinks is best for
u. But face it, sometimes parents dont
know whats best for us. And sometimes we
have to make our own mistakes. If we
dont make our own decisions growing up,
how r we going to mature and make it on
our own in the world? U need to be sure
what u r choosing to will be the best for
the baby, and for yourself. Then think
about greg and ur mom. If ur mom really
loves u and wants u to be happy, she may
be upset for awhile when u leave, but
shell get over it eventually. It may
hurt her, but she needs to realize that it
hurts u to leave also, but it would hurt u
more to give up ur baby. Good luck.
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lil_blaze2004
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 6492 Location: ,
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Posted: 11-19-04 11:00am
Oh boy..... I don't know how it works in
the states but in canada once you are 14
you are no longer considered a "medical"
minor, meaning anything to do with you and
your body can not be taken away from you
unless you want it. Also the docs are
not allowed telling your parents anything.
This is kind of like the er episode from
last night.....Hmmm... I really don't
know wht to say except what others have
said--talk to a counselor, or a lawyer
would be better- call ummmm.. What is it
called in the sates-- dept. Of child
welfare????? (i think) find out
everything u can. I'm 99% sure that at
your age your
mother has no say about what happens to
your child. But like I said i'm not
positive about american laws. Good luck
and keep us updated!!!
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querida
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 13 Location: Kansas City, MO
Posted: 11-19-04 11:10am
I know that in situations like this people
commit themselves to "positions" that put
them on opposite sides of the fence from
each other. And I know that it might seem
like you are stuck in a situation where
you have to choose one side of the fence
or the other. Your mom or your boyfriend,
your mom or your baby, etc.
This is your life, though, and you have
your own legal rights and your own
responsibilities. You're only 16, but
you've made choices already that have put
you in a position where you have to be
mature and take responsibility for those
choices. This isn't a romance novel,
where you can run off to be with your
older boyfriend, the love of your life,
and you and he and the baby will live
happily ever after. And this isn't
medieval france, where your mother can
take away your child and lock you up in a
convent to keep you and the baby away from
your wicked seducer.
The fact of the matter is that you do not
currently have the ability to adequately
care for yourself and your baby once it is
born without support. "emancipation" is
fine for young people who can truly do
better on their own than they can tied to
their parents, but from what you've said
here that is not the case in your
situation. Even assuming the "best" case
scenario and your boyfriend is not jailed
for statutory rape and you find legal
counsel to keep your mother from adopting
your child, if you throw up a wall between
you and your mother, you're going to be
left with very little choice but to depend
entirely on this 21-year-old boyfriend to
support you and your child indefinitely.
Even assuming his intentions are the most
honorable, 21 years old is hardly more
than a kid itself, and the fact that he
was living with you and your mom for a
while suggests that he is having trouble
supporting even himself.
Making a choice that subjects you and your
baby to the willingness of a 21-year-old
guy to support you, and that in the best
of situations dooms the three of you to a
life of poverty and isolation from your
extended family---that's not
"emancipation."
most likely, your mother wants to see you
make mature, responsible choices. The
best way to relieve her fears about your
future is to make mature, responsible
choices about your present. Yes, you
should get legal counsel about your rights
regarding your child. Your boyfriend also
has rights, by the way, as the father of
the child, and he is certainly an adult.
So, your mother's plans to cut him out of
the picture entirely are probably not
based on sound legal advice, and they are
probably not thought out very clearly.
This actually says good things about your
chances of sitting down and talking
reasonably about the future of your
family.
If you don't start making threats about
emancipation and running away and all the
rest, but instead recognize the good sense
of what your mother is saying--that you
need to finish school and accept the
support of your family until you're
prepared to support yourself--you'll
probably be able to come to an agreement
that is acceptable to everyone.
By the way, making mature, responsible
decisions includes recognizing the
mistakes you've made in the past and not
repeating them. Planning on shacking up
with your 21-year-old boyfriend is
certainly not going to reassure your
mother that this baby won't have four
siblings within three years. If this guy
is the love of your life, then you have
plenty of time to be with him, and you
don't need to make decisions out of
desperation that you're going to lose him.
Instead, you can focus on what is best
for all of you in the long run. And that
is most likely going to be (a) getting on
birth control as soon as this baby is
born, and (b) living with your mother
while boyfriend gets his own life together
independently, while providing support for
both you and the baby and maintaining
frequent contact with both of you.
By the way, it doesn't have to be a choice
between your mother adopting the baby and
terminating your parental rights or you
running away and taking on the full burden
yourself. You and your boyfriend could
agree to allow the court to name your
mother the legal guardian of the baby
until you reach age 18 or graduate from
college or whatever. That won't terminate
your rights or your boyfriend's rights as
the baby's parents, but it will empower
your mother to make the decisions
necessary for someone supporting an infant
(i.E., healthcare decisions and the like).
That might give all of you the
reassurance you need.