My boyfriend has got an adiiction with
porn and we had a big argument about it
recently and he promissed he wont do it
again, but he lied. When I met him I
thought he is different, but it looks like
all the men are the same.
He wanks every morning and sometimes
couple of times a day. It keeps really
annoying me. And then he hasnt got the
full energy for me. It's just so selfish!
We have been talking about it, but
there's no way out :(.
I hate his porn addiction, I dont mind
normal porn, but when he gets turned on by
a woman whos showing her things, just
makes me go mad. Makes me think that
when hes doing it he fantasises about the
woman in the picture. And he likes
looking at other women on the street. I'm
a beautiful girl, but when he does it it
just makes u feel like a caca. I'm
starting to get insecure and it makes me
think maybe it is better to be alone.
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Makoto
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Posted: 09-13-06 00:03am
I will agree that if he is not saving
enough for you, then he is going too
far.
But yes he is fantasizing about the women
in the photos, and he is looking at women
on the streets. But does that mean he
wants to cheat on you, or he prefers those
women over you. Maybe not. If he does,
the issue is deeper than the porn and the
girls in those porn vids or mags.
Minny, do you mean you have never noticed
how good looking another guy was. You
have never been attracted to another guy,
while in a relationship? I am not asking
if you acted or not, that is not the
question. The question is, have you ever
felt yourself stir over a good looking
guy?
Next, men are visual. Men are sexually
aroused more so visually than they are by
imagination or by words, or talk. So that
is why he is looking at porn.
Minny your worries along with many other
women are not always warranted. Granted
the number of times he has a wank might be
a cause for concern. Nonetheless, men
have their porn, and women have a
vibrator. I would tell any man who gets
jealous of a woman who has a vibrator to
grow up and stop being so insecure. But
there are many a men who expect their
girlfriends and wives to throw the thing
away when the man shows up. How selfish
is that? Your partner is trying to
control your own personal behaviors and
sexuality. To me that is the ultimate in
arrogance.
Minny not saying you are arrogant. You do
seem to have a concern, but as far as him
looking at porn, or being worried about
him looking at other women, you are not
being reasonable. It is natural for
people to look at other attractive people.
When they are on their own, and by
themselves, fantasizing about attractive
people is also not a problem. The problem
is when the person wants to take it beyond
this level and make it a physical
relationship with fantasized person. If
the boyfriend/girlfriend is in a
pre-existing relationship, they are now
trying to cheat. Before that, they were
not cheating, but just daydreaming. Which
is totally ok.
I hope I helped you understand a bit
better. Get mad at the fact he can not
hold out long enough to satisfy you. But
I do not think you should be getting mad
over him looking at women or porn. There
I think what makes you mad is the fact you
can not control him. That is wrong.
(of course when I say looking at other
women, I do not intend this to include any
behavior that is sexual harassment in
nature)
yes look at porn, but some penis control
is expected.
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deebaby621
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Pornnnnn Posted: 10-11-06 07:26am
Well i've been with my boyfriend for going
on 8 months now, we're very much in love
& he's my best friend, and he still
looks at it. And honestly, it kinda
hurts! I mean I don't want to feel this
way about it because most guys do it.
It's pretty normal I guess. But the way I
feel about it is, it hurts me inside but
i'd rather it not. I'd rather just be
okay with it because after all he is a
guy. But something inside of me just
wants to ask him why he watches it.
Something inside of me just wants to sit
him down and really find out why there's a
different porn in his vcr what seems like
almost everyday. I mean is it because
he's just bored when i'm not there? I'm a
girl that doesn't let everything her guy
does get to her. Like if he's too sleepy
for sex I don't freak out or whatever, and
I don't call him every 5 seconds when
we're not with eachother - i'm just not
that kind of girl i'm truly laid back.
But there's something about my bf watching
porn that just really hurts deep down. I
think it hurts every girl in a way when
she finds that her man is watching it
& probably getting off to it. There's
just something about it that hits a
jealousy spot inside of me. I'm a pretty
attractive girl [or so i've been told most
of my life] but when my boyfriend is
watching these airbrushed, orange,
fake-titted girls screw other guys &
have threesomes and lesbian encounters
& sh*t I mean it's just kinda like -
okay? I really want to confront him about
it because we have a pretty close
relationship yet I don't want to seem all
insecure. Basically I don't want to seem
like the typical girl who's totally afraid
of her boyfriend cheating on her. I'm not
afraid of that at all because we have
trust in eachother and we both believe
that is the worst of the worst. Idk what
to do - any advice people?
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Makoto
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Posted: 10-11-06 08:41am
Lets look at it this way. Does a man have
a right to get upset if his gf or wife has
a vibrator and uses it? Should a man feel
hurt, and insecure?
I would say, no, and that he should get
over it. Actually he should be happy,
because he has a wife that is sexually
active.
However if she would rather use the
vibrator over actual sex, than there are
some issues. It might be addiction, or it
might just be an indication that she no
longer is attracted to me, or there is a
loss of love in the relationship.
Chances are when you are getting passed
over for a vibrator or a porn mag, etc, it
is due to problems in your relationship,
not addiction.
However masturbation is a normal thing,
and no one should be getting hurt that
their partner masturbates. To me that is
your own problem, and may indicate you
have control issues.
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deebaby621
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Posted: 10-12-06 09:52am
Well we all know every man out there is
going to look at other women at some point
in his relationship. I mean it's just
going to happen and there's no way around
it. But why do men in relationships try
to hide the porn as if they're ashamed of
it? How do men feel about watching porn
vids when they're in a relationship with
someone whom they really and truly love?
I still can't find the words to say to my
boyfriend. I'm getting there.. But I
don't know how soon that'll be :/
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Makoto
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Posted: 10-13-06 02:41am
Why do men hide their porn? Would you
flaunt your vibrator around, for everyone
to see?
I think I answered that one.
How should a woman feel for using a
vibrator when she is in a loving
relationship? I think a woman should not
feel guilty at all, or be ashamed. Nor
should a man be offended, hurt, or feel
betrayed.
The same goes for a man looking at porn, a
woman should not feel anything bad. It is
none of her business.
Unless it is out of control, then it is
actually not the porn but a behaviour
issue.
You a getting up the nerve to say
something to your boyfriend??? If it was
me, and some one said to me that they did
not like me looking at porn, and felt
betrayed. I would say stop being so
insecure, jealous, and controlling. It is
my body, it is my life. I would then tell
her to grow up, or get out. (because the
last thing I want is an insecure
controlling girlfriend or wife)
so yeah go ahead and say something. But I
suggest you also mention my points as
well. If you totally feel you are right,
then also talking about what I have said
to your boyfriend should be no problem.
If you are totally honest, you have
nothing to worry about.
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deebaby621
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Posted: 10-13-06 10:03am
I probably won't say anything to him.
Just for the simple fact that when I found
the porn, I was cleaning up for him. But
I do have a vibrator, but it stays at his
house haha, we use it sometimes during
foreplay and whatnot but i've never used
it unless i'm with him. I know my
boyfriend isn't "addicted" to porn - he's
just a simple guy who looks at it every
now and then. I can't get mad because of
it, or blow up at him, that's extremely
uncalled for. But I guess it's just a
part of our relationship that's natural.
I can't stop it, it's not that big of a
deal because he's not looking at it every
chance he gets. But no matter what, I
think all women feel a little uneasy about
the subject. I do .. And i'm not a
control freak or a b*tch at all.
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Makoto
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Posted: 10-13-06 10:51am
I like you attitude. Just remember, him
looking at porn is not a sign of him
wanting to cheat. It is a sign that he is
interested in sex, and all his parts are
working.
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deebaby621
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Walked In On Boyfriend. Posted: 10-15-06 06:47am
Sorry this is a little long! But
interesting. Hah.
Well .. Yesterday I went over to my
boyfriends house like I always do, and
when I walk in his room - there he is
jackin' off to a porno mag. Hah! What to
think, what to think. My initial reaction
was to turn around and just walk out. [he
knew I saw him.] so I did. I turned
around and walked out and went and sat in
the kitchen and just sorta had a blank
stare on my face like "what now?" so yeah
that was weird. He walked in the kitchen
and said "what are you doing?" and grabbed
my hand and we went into his room. He
asked me what was wrong and so many
different emotions were going thru my head
all I knew to tell him was.. "that was
just kinda weird." idk it really was just
weird. Weird to walk in on the love of my
life getting off to naked airbrushed
models in a magazine. So for a few
minutes I just was kinda speechless and
didn't really know the words to say to
him. He just acted like it was nothing
and he said he was sorry and it was just
normal of him to bust one before I got
there so "he'd be ready for me." soooooo
yeah. For a few hours we didn't even talk
to eachother just sat there and watched
tv. It was the most uncomfortable i've
ever been around him. Really it was. It
was so uncomfortable and awkward. I
wanted to say so much to him but didn't
know how. Finally I caught him looking at
me and he hugged and kissed me like there
was no tomorrow. We didn't say anything
else about the incident - and I tried my
hardest to get it off of my mind. I did
for a little while, and we had sex last
night. I laid there after we had sex and
started thinking about it again and
thinking "how the h*ll am I ever gonna
forget this one?" I mean honestly i'll
never be able to forget it. As dumb and
as insecure and "typical girl" as I sound
.. I'm only being honest about everything
i've said. It was just odd I don't know
exactly how to explain it. After I
thought about it, I initially should've
just walked in [after I saw what he was
doing] and started helping him out!
That's what part of me wanted to do. But
I didn't. He probably would've liked that
and that definitely would've put me up on
the points scale. But I feel so weird
now. I just still don't feel right after
what happened last night. I woke up this
morning and we kissed and I told him i'd
see him later and that I loved him. He
said the same back. But deep down there's
this feeling that I don't want to be
there. I hate it and I wish it'd go away.
What do I do? How can I just remind
myself that what happened should be just a
laugh that only me and him can share? How
can I just remind myself that it really
isn't that great big of a deal as I am
making it?
Someone please help me out :/
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Makoto
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Joined: 16 Jul 2006 Posts: 275 Location: Japan
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Posted: 10-15-06 08:35am
Well I would say you are on your way. You
realized that your thinking is wrong.
That is a start.
Yes, you bf was pulling one off to an
airbrush model, in a paper magazine. A
fantasy, a non-real, thing. No more real
or alive than a vibrator is compared to a
dick. Yes, you should have jumped in, and
helped him out. I think it would have
been a good experience, one both of you
would have enjoyed.
Now, for you to get over your weirdness.
Some people might take offense to this,
but you have to realize what you bf was
doing is his business, and imo it is
natural. He was doing nothing wrong.
However, due to certain religious values
and mis-guided feministic values(not
saying all feministic values are wrong,
just those seek to control other people
and those values that have issues with
sexuality). You feel he is cheating on
you, thus the shock and the "air brush"
model comment. You might also have
feelings that he thinks those women are
better than you, and that he only thinks
women are meat. Of course he does not, if
he did, would you actually go out with a
cave man, or a red neck who thinks you
should be bare foot and pregnant in the
kitchen? So no he does not think less of
women. The porn mag is just his way of
doing his job, nothing more nothing less.
In terms of if you feel he is cheating on
you, that is just plain crazy as I
explained in previous posts. You have to
internalize this idea. He is not cheating
on you, you have been brainwashed into
thinking that if he looks at another woman
he wants to cheat on you. That is just
crazy. All humans take note of who is
good looking or not, that is part of our
nature. It is natural for us to keep our
eyes open for a potential mate. Yes, men
are more aggressive or obvious when they
look at women, but that is all they are
doing. Being sexually aware, and findng
other women attractive is not an
indication of his desire to cheat. It is
him feeling comfortable with you enough to
be able to be himself. Now, of course he
should not being gawking at every woman,
and nor should he be making comments to
you or in front of you. But if you catch
him looking every now and then, just be
happy. At sometime he must have looked at
you the same way, and he must have thought
you good looking. Actually he must have
found you so attractive that he just did
not look, but he actually did something
about it. Now think of all the girls he
looks at and has looked at, and think
yourself to be in an elite class, one of
only a few in his history of dating women,
you are his girlfriend.
Lets say he looks at a 100-1000 girls in a
run of a week. How many weeks go by, or
have gone by, before he asked you out?
Just think out of all those girls, you are
his pick. He chose you. If you think
about it, you have every reason to trust
him and feel confindent in him. You do
not have much to worry about at all.
I will qualify this, by saying if he is
looking at women in a subtle way. He is
being mannerly about it. If he is just
looking at everything that moves, and he
has a head on a swivel, and he is
basically drooling at everything, then you
are in trouble. Such men are not rare,
but they make up just 1 or 2 precent of
us. Chances are you man is not one of
these guys.
So, I say your shock is because you have
been taught to be shocked by many
mis-guided things in society. Now that
you realize your thinking is wrong, and
hopefully realize that your shock is not a
result of your actual your free
independent thinking, you should be
okay.
Dont let society tell you what to think.
Let your feelings and instincts tell you
what is right or wrong. Society is not
always right, sometimes we have to ignore
those ideas created by man for those
created by mother nature, which is a force
far greater and better than man.
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deebaby621
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Posted: 10-15-06 09:00am
Okay let me just get this out there. I do
not, in any way shape or form believe that
porn is cheating. That is stupid and
senseless. Porn and cheating are 2 very
different things. I never said that..
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deebaby621
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Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Posted: 10-15-06 09:03am
Thanks for your advice seriously! It
helps. I'm trying to just have the most
positive, creative outlook on this as
possible. I mean come on, a little sex
never hurt anyone. Well.. Nevermind.
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HCD27
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Joined: 02 Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Johnson City, New York
Help Posted: 08-02-07 16:00pm
I can't believe so many other people are
having the same problem I am. My boyfriend
is addicted to porn. Not even porn, just
pictures and videos of nude girls. I just
tried to post my big long story and it
logged me out. But basically, I'm
scared, confused, hurt, depressed,
angry... I don't know how much longer I
can take this. Help?
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misschevious121
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Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Location: ohio
Posted: 08-23-07 16:41pm
LOOK
ok ok ok iknow...were women. were all
insecure about our bodies and our looks.
we always will be NO MATTER WHAT WE LOOK
LIKE!!! until we learn to get past this
one thing......
t
looks are unimportant in the long run.
therefore, visual stimulation is nothing
compared to spending your life with a real
live human being.
men will always look at other women. most
will not admit to it. this is because
women are insecure and dont understand
that sexual desires for a man are an
instinctual thing, and not emotional.
There is a difference between having sex
and making love. Women will always have
emotional ties to sex because it is
instinctual as well. We cant seperate, men
can.
Men have this thing called a penis, and it
is constantly needing "release". Men watch
porn to help this "release' so they can go
on about their business, or just because
its a turn on to watch other people f*ck.
Ladies, dont tell me it doesnt turn you on
in the slightest to watch other people do
it!!!
Men have higher sex drives then women. Men
and women are wired differently.
Ill be happy to e mail you a photo of me
so you can see that porn hasnt a thing to
do with how you look!! Im a gorgeous 22
year old stripper who is constantly at the
gym, and my man looks at porn!! he doesnt
lie about it, and i dont care that he does
it as long as i get mine Hell, ill even
watch it with him!
so please, jsut know that porn jhas no
emotional attatchment!! men will alwyas
look, even if youre pam anderson!!!!!!! so
calm down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! he wouldnt be
with you if he didnt love you.
end of story
oh ya, but if hes lying, DUMP him cuz he
will lie about other things too.
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helpless14
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Joined: 23 Aug 2007 Posts: 3 Location: Canada
So I Am Not Alone...but What Do I Do Now??? Posted: 08-23-07 18:17pm
Well, I was surfing the net and thought I
would google what I am going through.
Well my partner definitely is addicted. I
should have seen the signs we were apart
for many years...and his job entailed him
being away a lot...so I can understand the
need for arousal...but then I would join
him...and he would send me away so he
could get off on his own. Not that I am
not willing...because that's not the
case...he has suggested it has to do with
my weight...and that he would give it to
me more often if I was not as heavy...but
his tendencies include downloading and
masturbating most mornings...whenever I
leave the house...he seems to be
downloading and hides it from me...we
actually had a big fight...a few months
back and I told him how I felt...and he
said he would stop...but instead he hid it
and then by chance it popped up on the
computer...he didn't clear everything I
guess. We have been fighting a lot this
is the first time we have actually lived
together...but the sad part is we used to
have a sex life and now his work and just
him in general...he couldnt be
interested...but he has the time to
masturbate...the most recent blow up went
something like this...he had to go away
for work...so it was a last minute
departure...he speeds home from
work...grabs himself lunch and not
me...even though I asked....starts the
computer up and starts downloading porn so
he has enough for the trip...and here I am
the fool...rushing home to iron a few
shirts for his trip...well I go to check
email and there it is downloading so I
flip...because for the last week I am
begging for some affection...but he just
cant seem to take the time to touch
me...oh but his cuddling should be
enough...I just dont know what to do...I
gave him the ultimatum...but he says the
porn is more important...sex life
sucks...I feel like I am stuck in a
rut...another thing to add is I made
decisions for us to stay apart for him to
further his career and I continued
working...and I didnt want to move...so he
figures he can make me pay for the choices
I made of staying apart...when I should
have been with him...someone tell me am I
nuts???
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childofgod777
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Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Indianapolis
Looking Ar Porn Posted: 08-29-07 22:30pm
You have got to be kidding me. You don't
mind him looking at porn? Have you no
self respect? If he is doing that now,
what will it take to make him happy in ten
years from now? It looks to me like you
don't care what he does, because your
willing to put up with just about anything
to have him. Big mistake! He is not husband
material, and as far as I'm concerned he
isn't even a good boyfriend. He looks at
porn, he drinks, and he's a liar, but
other than that he is perfect? Give me a
break. I
have a husband that has never used drugs,
doesn't smoke, drink, gamble, curse,
doesn't have hobbies and sports that he
spends all kinds of time and money on. He
doesn't have a bunch of buddies to hang
with. and he doesn't chase women or look
at porn. And as far as I know, he has
never lied to me. This is the kind of man
you need. My husband works every day. I
can time him with a stop watch for him
getting home from work. He go's to church
with me every Sunday, we go out to dinner
at least twice a week. I have never had
to work a day since we got married. He
calls me every day from work just to see
how my day is going. I haven't ever had
to ask him to do any of this. It is just
in his character. He has strong moral
values and integrity. He isn't hen
pecked, he is just a good man. OH! and he
is gorgeous too! We have been married for
almost twenty years. If you stay with
this guy, he will make your life
miserable. Ask yourself this. Are you
willing to spend the rest of your life
wondering what he is doing, and having to
check up on him, and never being sure of
him? Do you want all that drama? That
what you've got in store with is guy.
Dump him, before he breaks your heart and
waste too many of your good years.
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young Girl
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Re: Looking Ar Porn Posted: 08-29-07 22:33pm
childofgod777
wrote:
You have got to be kidding me. You don't
mind him looking at porn? Have you no
self respect? If he is doing that now,
what will it take to make him happy in ten
years from now? It looks to me like you
don't care what he does, because your
willing to put up with just about anything
to have him. Big mistake! He is not husband
material, and as far as I'm concerned he
isn't even a good boyfriend. He looks at
porn, he drinks, and he's a liar, but
other than that he is perfect? Give me a
break. I
have a husband that has never used drugs,
doesn't smoke, drink, gamble, curse,
doesn't have hobbies and sports that he
spends all kinds of time and money on. He
doesn't have a bunch of buddies to hang
with. and he doesn't chase women or look
at porn. And as far as I know, he has
never lied to me. This is the kind of man
you need. My husband works every day. I
can time him with a stop watch for him
getting home from work. He go's to church
with me every Sunday, we go out to dinner
at least twice a week. I have never had
to work a day since we got married. He
calls me every day from work just to see
how my day is going. I haven't ever had
to ask him to do any of this. It is just
in his character. He has strong moral
values and integrity. He isn't hen
pecked, he is just a good man. OH! and he
is gorgeous too! We have been married for
almost twenty years. If you stay with
this guy, he will make your life
miserable. Ask yourself this. Are you
willing to spend the rest of your life
wondering what he is doing, and having to
check up on him, and never being sure of
him? Do you want all that drama? That
what you've got in store with is guy.
Dump him, before he breaks your heart and
waste too many of your good
years.
well we are all glad you found a perfect
heavenly angel husband
however there is nothing wrong with porn
and i bet ya anything your dh looks at it
weather you know about it or not
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childofgod777
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Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Indianapolis
Posted: 08-30-07 00:37am
There is no way on God's green earth that
my husband looks at porn. Don't measure
my good Christian husband, by your sicko
boyfriends yard stick. Your's could
never measure up. I can see where your
going, now your defending him. I feel
sorry for you. You don't have enough self
esteem and self worth to stand up for
yourself. So, go ahead and put up with it
for as long as you can. If you didn't
want to hear the truth, than you shouldn't
have asked.
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childofgod777
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Joined: 28 Aug 2007 Posts: 35 Location: Indianapolis
Posted: 08-30-07 01:03am
Ther is no way on God's green earth that
my husband looks at porn.
don't measure my good christian husband,
by what your does.
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deebaby621
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Aug 2006 Posts: 251 Location: North Carolina
Posted: 08-30-07 15:28pm
childofgod.. hunnie you're making your
husband out to be the most perfect
individual on this earth. well you got
another thing comin' for you. you talk to
everyone on here like he's just holier
than thou & so are you.. lighten up.
if your husband doesn't watch porn.. yay
for you. but i wouldn't bet on that. i
also wouldn't bet on the whole "he's never
lied to me" thing. get real sweets.
nobody's perfect. you sound like one of
those people that stick their nose up in
the air everywhere they go because they
are just soooooooooooooooooo right about
everything & they never do anything
wrong. wake up out of your little fairy
tale & stop looking down at everyone
else.
if things are great for you & your
hubby.. wonderful. but you shouldn't sit
there & throw it in other peoples'
faces.. especially the people that come on
this forum dealing with partners who are
addicted to porn & would rather watch
that than spend quality time with them.
you need to think before you speak &
have some regard for other people.