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Izzy
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to All Pro Choice & Pro Life Am I Going Mad Or....
Posted: 11-20-04 09:58am
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Is this a possiblity!
At the risk of sounding like a complete
and total lunatic - at the risk of loosing
all respect and any crediblity I have in
debating this issue I do this because I
believe it is a possiblity.
If we look at the world today we see the
likes of abortion and euthinasia for the
elderly and disabled.
On the other hand we have cloning and
genitic research and stem cell harvesting
etc.
Now the way I see it they are developing
ways to create life as well as developing
laws to end life.
What are they up to?
Could the second world war have been an
experiment to see how people could be
manipulated via propergander to consent to
the killing of a group of people - namely
the jews and gypsies - but it could have
been any group! An experiment devised
by a small group of people - the worlds
elite and powerfull.
There was an scientific experiment arround
that time - a scientist decapated two
monkeys - one old and one young - he
switched the head of the old wise monkeys
head onto the young monkeys body and the
monkey live for so long afterwards - how
far has this come?
How old are humans going to be when we die
if we can have new lungs and new hearts or
even knew bodies via cloning and genitic
engernearing or in particular how old are
the rich and powerfull going to be because
it sure as hell wont be available to the
nobodys - will they be ineffect
immortal?
What use have these elite now got for us?
If they want soldiers - they can create
soliders with briliant assets through gene
technologie - if they need artists - they
can do the same and that goes for any
area of society
these people are creating life to specify
there needs - we are fast becoming a
disposable commodity it is already
happening today. I am affraid I may
become ill and end up in hospital where
they will use the first means nessisary to
get rid of me!
This culture of death goes much deeper
than abortion and euthinasia
we old type of people are outdated we are
a drain on soicety - all of us!
We get sick - we have our own opinions -
we demand walfare etc.
Surely these people want rid of us now we
are of no use to them but just a
hinderence or "inconvienient"!
Why do they want to destroy the family -
because they dont need marriage and sex
for the new generation of worker ants -
they can make there own.
They can have there own soldiers fighting
wars to decide arguments between
themseves.
What do they need men for? What do they
need women for?
Which type of being will they develope
male or female - it dosnt matter mankind
as we know it - you, me, men, women all of
us are history!
These "genetically modified people" that
the elite will grow perhaps on these .G.M.
Farms will have only the rights given
to them by the laws the elite decide -
they could easily say "you have the right
to life among the mortals - but we created
you - we have the right to terminate you"
in effect they have become "like gods"
(just like satan in the bible said to adam
and eve) - the anti christ.
If women have the right now to kill there
children - how about the immortal elite
and there cloned "children" - we will be
long gone or will we!
Who are these people is it the new world
order?
Do they even exist or am I totaly way off
beam?
Have I lost the plot or is this a
possiblity?
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bd1012
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Posted: 11-20-04 10:21am
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You aren't going mad izzy... You've been
mad. 
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-20-04 11:35am
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30 years ago abortion was introduced and
prior to that birth control was
introduced
25yrs ago first test tube baby was born
stop babies being born in one area
(general public)
create babies in the other area
(scientifically)
is it just coincidence?
I mean its not too far fetched we virtualy
have the technology to do these things now
- is it so far fetched that there could be
a few elite people manipulating and
pulling the strings to get a desired
effect.
I think the only thing that makes it far
fetched is our own sense of decency and
morals - but like people on here keep
saying morals are objective.
Look at the rich and powerfull they have
used and abused us throughout history -
making little children work down pits and
in factories for a pittance - not allowing
the poor to vote, sending us off to war to
die for them etc is it so far fetched that
these people would do such things?
Who will benifit by this "survival of the
fittest" and "law of the jungle" type
ideology?
I dont think its that far fetched!
Was this idea of the ayrian race durring
hitlers nazi regime - blue eyes, blond
hair etc just part of the experiment (we
know that hitler made up his own history
in order to implement the "ayrian race"
ideology) for the "new ayrian race" the
cloned and genetically modified
snipers with hawks eyes who have genetic
heart defects so they have a heart attack
at 40 after there service and legalised
euthinasia so doctors dont revive them.
Why are we being told to eat healthy -
watch out for heart problems
is it for our own good or are they telling
us if we have heart attacks they wont try
to revive us?
Smokers are already being refused some
medical services if they have problems,
what about drinkers are they next? Then
who?
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PattyV
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Posted: 11-20-04 12:55pm
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"soylent green is people!!!!!!!"truly,izzy
,you sound like a bad 70's b-movie.There
have been some great scientific advances
because of genetics.Not all,mind you.I am
against the cloning of humans and gender
selection in fetuses.But stem cell
research for some of the worst illnesses
is needed!I'm not saying to clone a whole
person,just the specific organs or tissues
needed for a cure.Patty
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-20-04 13:19pm
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Is it possible we could go down that road
if we are not vigilant - do we not need to
proceed with great care down this road of
genetics and stem cell research (i am not
against adult stem cell research and not
against genitic reserch to help people
neither)
i maybe over reacting I dont know - all I
know is the world is a very scary place at
the minute.
I think now more than ever we need to hold
onto christian values and try to build a
culture of life around these new advances
in technology. All I can say is thank god
bush was re-elected.
I must sound like a weirdo - who has been
reading and watching too many si-fi movies
and novels.
Look at some movies they were ahead of
their time and many things which were
si-fi then have become reality - perhaps a
way to get the public associated with
these things prior to them happening!
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Izzy
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-21-04 15:25pm
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It could well of been an experiment
because it seems the "elite" put the plan
into operation pretty soon after .W.W.I.I
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-21-04 17:33pm
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The first african woman to win the nobel
peace prize, wangari maatha of kenya,
spoke out on the aids virus saying it was
man-made and deliberateloy created as a
weapon of biowarfare.
"in fact it (the hiv virus) is created by
a scientist for biological warfare,” she
said. "why has there been so much
secrecy about aids? When you ask where
did the virus come from, it raises a lot
of flags. That makes me suspicious,”
maathai said.
The kenya based east africa standard
reported that in response to questions
from asian and european media, she said,
"i want to dedicate the prize to the
african woman. I want to hold and
embrace her. She has suffered so much
and I feel this is an honour to her.
"although I am a biologist, I have not
done any research. I may not be able to
say who developed the (hiv) virus but it
was meant to wipe out the black race," she
continued.
"when she first blamed the hiv/aids on
'some sadistic scientists, professor
maathai kicked a storm, leaving some
experts outraged and others supporting
her," the standard reported.
I agree with her, but I also think it is
possible it was intended to wipe out the
homosexuals and help promote contraception
use to help stop the number of unwanted
children aka unwanted old type of human
being from reproducing.
It is all of us that are unwanted!
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PattyV
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Posted: 11-21-04 18:05pm
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If that is true,then the experiment has
gone terribly awry.There are children and
even straight white people with hiv!Nice
try,but I do not buy that theory.Patty
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-21-04 18:28pm
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There are children and even straight white
people with hiv!
Well of course - look where it is most
predominent - blacks (especially those in
africa) and homosexuals - straight white
people can get it too but we are not
wanted either.
But they need some old type people to
continue in the ant colonie until the time
is ready - they give us contraception to
"protect" us from aids or to more likely
help slow reproduction down and create a
sexually promscuios culture - seperating
the idea of reproduction from intercourse
- trigering the so called "need" for
abortion -but is really to stop babies
being born! All the while developing life
on they can control.
Think about it - if you have no mother
& no father no family, no religion to
give you inalianable rights - just a dish
in a lab and the state that created you -
your the prefect slave!
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Moira
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Posted: 11-22-04 07:08am
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Yes izzy, you are quote clearly displaying
signs of extreme paranoia. Any more
crackpot theories to discuss?
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steen
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Posted: 11-22-04 13:44pm
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| moira
wrote: | | yes izzy, you are quote
clearly displaying signs of extreme
paranoia. Any more crackpot theories to
discuss? |
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Moira
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Posted: 11-22-04 17:25pm
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| steen
wrote: | | moira
wrote: | | yes izzy, you are quote
clearly displaying signs of extreme
paranoia. Any more crackpot theories to
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yup, saw that one. Bet right now he's
investigating the theory that hilary
clinton nipped back in time and murdered
jfk, or that elcis was kidnapped by evil
pro-choicers...Whatever will he come up
with next?
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Izzy
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Posted: 11-22-04 17:33pm
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Ex head of planned parenthood said in the
60's prior to being head
"sex and reproduction will be separated.
You will have sex without reproduction and
then technology will be reproduction
without sex. This will be done in the
laboratory. There has already been lots
and lots of research and the program is
now underway to start making babies in the
laboratory.
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Moira
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Posted: 11-22-04 17:40pm
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Any source for that izzy? Thought not.
Any point to your statement? Thought not.
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steen
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Posted: 11-22-04 17:53pm
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| moira
wrote: | any source for that izzy?
Thought not.
Any point to your statement? Thought
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Posted: 11-23-04 02:36am
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Aids was created to get rid of
homosexuals? That is a typical white
trash opinion. Honey, aids was "created"
along with all kinds of other diseases,
infections, etc. For experimentation by
our own government for fun! And for
warfare. Common sense.
Homosexuals are no more prone to hiv/aids
than heterosexuals. When it was first
discovered they only blamed it on
homosexuals because of the white-trash
attitude.
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