Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 11-21-04 07:30am
#1 no you do not have to live like that!
If you are in pain, there are doctors that
will treat you! You may need to find a
spince surgery center and get a referal
from your general practitioner to go to
the spine center but there is hope! There
are many procedures to help you out and
they are not chiropractic care!
#2 I personally would not allow a
chiropractor touch me! If you want
conservitive treatment, get a prescription
for physical therapy. They will teach you
the mckenzie press-ups and other methods
of excersise to help put the discs back
into the proper position, if they will go.
But of course, in my opinion,
chiropractic and other forms of "holistic"
medicine are not the way to go with true
medical illness. They may help you to
stay feeling well if there isn't really a
problem but if there is a problem then a
real doctor is the way I would go. Just
my opinion of course.
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Scientist
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Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 12
Posted: 11-21-04 13:02pm
What exactly are mckenzie press-ups? Can
you post a link with some picture?
So a chiropractor can not help me? Why?
Does anybody knows if the body can
generaly heal those kind of disorders or
it must be handled from someone?
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 11-21-04 19:40pm
The mckenzie press up is where you lay on
your stomach anb slowly raise your
torso/head, leaving your legs/waist flat.
These are supposed to move your
vertebrae(sp) around and allow the disc to
go back where they belong.
I am not saying that a chiropractor will
not help you, I am saying I would not
allow one to touch me!
With what you have, a real spine doctor
should be treating you. I cannot
understand how you have 3
bulging/herniated discs and have not been
placed under the care of the right
doctors.
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Scientist
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Posted: 11-22-04 05:53am
Sorry double post
Last edited by Scientist on 11-22-04 05:55am; edited 1 time in total
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Scientist
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Posted: 11-22-04 05:54am
I went to a chiro that is also expert on
spine maters and operation, today and it
was the bigest dissapointment of my
life.
He checked the pictures (the 2 above) and
told me that the discs will never heal and
they will get worse!
The only way is surgery.
I have the greatest depression in my life
right now and I realy don't know what to
do.
Is it true that herniations (when the soft
core hangs out) will never repair? I read
many times that it heals slowly on its own
but the doctor said that this is not
posible.
Am I doomed or the doc tries to operate me
just to relief me from my broblem with his
only known "fast way?
Please someone experienced check the mri
above and help me?
Thanks.
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willbeone
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Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Posts: 4 Location: williamsburg va
Posted: 11-22-04 13:04pm
How the doc explained it to me is that
when a disc ruptures the tissue from the
disc may be forced out of the disc into
the spinal canal and put pressure on the
sciatic nerve which results in pain and
other symptoms. The tissue will
eventually dry up and shrink and when that
happens it may relieve the pressure on the
nerve (usually 8-12 weeks). If too much
tissue has ruptured, it may not shrink
enough to pull away from the nerve and
then the only way to get relief is from
surgery. For some first hand experience
details on the surgery, take a look at www.Sciaticaforum.Com.
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 11-22-04 16:48pm
It may be the truth, the disc may not be
repairable but surgery is not a death
sentence! With the technology that is
availible today, you can really explore
options.
You dont say which discs are bad, but if
it is lumbar or cervical, there are new
surgeies that actually remove the old bad
disc and replace them. The only one that
is approved by the fda is the charite 3
right now and that is lumbar but there are
3 other lumbar replacements in trials and
2 cervical in trial. When you enter a
study you get the treatment for a reduced
to totally free cost to you but you have
to go to a spine specialist doctor! Dont
be too discouraged over this. It can and
should be looked at by more people and is
most probably fixable!
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Scientist
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Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 12
Posted: 11-23-04 07:03am
tamadrummer
wrote:
it may be the truth, the
disc may not be repairable but surgery is
not a death sentence! With the
technology that is availible today, you
can really explore options.
You dont say which discs are bad, but if
it is lumbar or cervical, there are new
surgeies that actually remove the old bad
disc and replace them. The only one that
is approved by the fda is the charite 3
right now and that is lumbar but there are
3 other lumbar replacements in trials and
2 cervical in trial. When you enter a
study you get the treatment for a reduced
to totally free cost to you but you have
to go to a spine specialist doctor! Dont
be too discouraged over this. It can and
should be looked at by more people and is
most probably fixable!
surgery is something I am not even
disscusing it.
Simply because 7 doctors that I have
visited told me that my 3 lumbar discs are
not clinicaly for operation (check pict on
top of topic).
The only person told me that I need
operation was a spine surgerist.
Of course! Since it is the only thing he
is trained to do...
A doctor cares about taking your money
fast and safe. He does not care to help
you on a long term therapy that will give
him the money slowly an will benefit the
same as an operation. Anyway the doctor I
went were a scumbag of that kind. I could
say this looking in his eyes only.
Probably there are better doctors than him
around.
Anyway I am focusing on physiotherapy
since I have never done before.
Could it help functionaly on my discs?
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Scientist
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Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 12
Posted: 11-23-04 07:03am
tamadrummer
wrote:
it may be the truth, the
disc may not be repairable but surgery is
not a death sentence! With the
technology that is availible today, you
can really explore options.
You dont say which discs are bad, but if
it is lumbar or cervical, there are new
surgeies that actually remove the old bad
disc and replace them. The only one that
is approved by the fda is the charite 3
right now and that is lumbar but there are
3 other lumbar replacements in trials and
2 cervical in trial. When you enter a
study you get the treatment for a reduced
to totally free cost to you but you have
to go to a spine specialist doctor! Dont
be too discouraged over this. It can and
should be looked at by more people and is
most probably fixable!
surgery is something I am not even
disscusing it.
Simply because 7 doctors that I have
visited told me that my 3 lumbar discs are
not clinicaly for operation (check pict on
top of topic).
The only person told me that I need
operation was a spine surgerist.
Of course! Since it is the only thing he
is trained to do...
A doctor cares about taking your money
fast and safe. He does not care to help
you on a long term therapy that will give
him the money slowly an will benefit the
same as an operation. Anyway the doctor I
went were a scumbag of that kind. I could
say this looking in his eyes only.
Probably there are better doctors than him
around.
Anyway I am focusing on physiotherapy
since I have never done before.
Could it help functionaly on my discs?
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 11-23-04 07:50am
Physiotherepy is part of the florida spine
institute. My pain management doc is a
physiotherpist. (i know my spelling sucks
) he is the one
that has worked on my back the most.
Injections and also neucleoplasty for
repairs and he has also done the
discograms for diagnosis. You cannot go
wrong with them, if they cannot fix you
then they will refer you to another spine
specialist. Good luck sir and I hope you
get better. I cannot look at your pics.
Photobucket isnt showing them for some
reason.
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Scientist
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Joined: 16 Nov 2004 Posts: 12
Posted: 11-23-04 11:14am
Copy and paste the link.
If this doesn't work copy paste and change
"http://img." with www.
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Tamadrummer
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Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 11-23-04 22:38pm
Your photo album wont come up with the www
or any other extension. At least not for
me. But if it is lumbar there are
treatments. If you refuse them then I
dont know what else you can do. Surgery
is all that is availible for me and I am
having it on december 17th. Lumbar disc
replacement. Charite 3 is the disc.
