Funny how those who support abortion, were
born:wink:
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bd1012
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Posted: 11-30-04 15:37pm
What was the point of that post?
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bluebubble888
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 499
Posted: 11-30-04 16:57pm
Free world, free forum, free posts~my
thoughts are allowed to flow!!!
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 11-30-04 17:20pm
Funny how child-molesters were born.
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2ferano
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Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 11-30-04 17:32pm
Funny, those who are against abortion were
born. See, your "thoughts" make no
sense. Obviously in order to develop a
thought you would have to exist. Geez.
Let's see you get raped and fall pregnant
with a pregnancy that would kill you if
you continued with it. Then tell me you
are against abortion.
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bluebubble888
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 499
Posted: 11-30-04 17:46pm
My second cousin was raped and became
pregnant. She decided to have the baby
and he is now 20 and serving in the
military. She loves that child
unconditionally. Two wrongs have never
made a right. I've never heard of any
situaiton where a pregnancy would kill
someone.....And besides if thats even the
case....What are they doing getting
pregnant in the first place? I value you
opinioins and thoughts
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Bluebubble888 Posted: 11-30-04 19:37pm
You must live in a bubble and never get
out if you have never known a woman that
needed to abort or it will end her life!
You have never heard of a woman bleeding
to death, pregnant(with fetus), how would
she have known this would happen before
she got pregnant. Accidents happen!
Women die giving birth, women get pregnant
and die of toxic poisoning, so therefore
they should abort. Why bring something
into this world that is not wanted, that
will not be loved or taken care of and
does not stand a chance of real life and
that will not stand a chance of being
adopted, this happens!
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 11-30-04 19:49pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
two wrongs have never made
a right.
but then, abortion is not
a "wrong" so that's utterly immaterial.
Quote:
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i've never
heard of any situaiton where a pregnancy
would kill
someone....
so you are ignorant. No
surprise there.
Quote:
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.And besides if
thats even the case....What are they doing
getting pregnant in the first
place?
damn, another misogynist.
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bluebubble888
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 499
Posted: 11-30-04 20:04pm
Wait women die giving birth?? Well then
what does that have to do with
abortion~noone would know about that kind
of situation untill the women was in labor
anyways so what's the point of aborting
something you don't know is going to kill
you if that's what you're claiming it will
do. Abortions are fare more risky and
have far many more harmfull effects than
the natural process of birth. (increased
risks of breast cancer and so on..) so
no~i do not live in a bubble, and am not
ignorant.
As far as abortion being "wrong"......
That's how I see it~so two wrongs will
never make it right in that situation.
And no I am not against anyone having
sex~but if someone is not ready for the
consequences maybe they should be more
careful! Condoms/birth control
etc.......
How can anyone claim that a child is
unwanted and unloved utnill it gets a
chance?? How many people are out there
who's parents almost decided to abort
them~but now have lives with many people
who love them, maybe no even their
parents!!
It is my opinion that killing a life will
never be right. No matter what you call
it (fetus....Whatever) or how you look at
it, in my eyes~abortion is a selfish
answer to a selfish person.
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bluebubble888
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 499
Posted: 11-30-04 20:05pm
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Last edited by bluebubble888 on 11-30-04 20:07pm; edited 1 time in total
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bluebubble888
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Joined: 21 Oct 2004 Posts: 499
Posted: 11-30-04 20:07pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
my second cousin was raped
and became pregnant. She decided to
have the baby and he is now 20 and serving
in the military. She loves that child
unconditionally.
hmmm.....Wonder why there's no comments on
this???
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 11-30-04 21:48pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
wait women die giving
birth?? Well then what does that have
to do with abortion~noone would know about
that kind of situation untill the women
was in labor anyways so what's the point
of aborting something you don't know is
going to kill you if that's what you're
claiming it will
do.
this is incredibly
rambling and it is not clear what you are
actually trying to say. Could you
clarify your claim?
Quote:
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abortions are
fare more risky and have far many more
harmfull effects than the natural process
of birth.
that is an outright lie.
You really don't need to lie to make your
argument, do you? After all, the risk of
death is 20 times higher from giving birth
than from having an abortion.
So when you are trying to make claims, at
least be sure they are right, rather than
uncritically repeating the outright lies
from the anti-abortion lie sites. It
does kind of trash your credibility.
F.Ex., now you come accross as either a
deliberate liar, or you come accross as
some silly dupe who believed anti-choice
lies without first checking the claims out
yourself.
Now, how are you going to fix that?
Well, I am not sure. The first thing you
need to do is to appologize for posting
false information. The second thing you
must do is to amke really sure that the
claims yuo post here are actually true,
which means that you have to double-check
the anti-abortion lies with independent
sources such as medical sites.
Until then, all we know about you is that
you are willing to post lies. Is that
the reputation you want?
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(increased risks
of breast cancer and so
on..)
actually, that lie has
been soolidly disproven by the american
cancer society which is contemplating
suing all the sites that have that claim
because it is scaremongering through lies.
The american cancer society doesn't like
people to lie and spread misinformation
about cancer. So please don't repeat
such lies, thanks.
Quote:
tr>
so no~i do not
live in a bubble, and am not
ignorant.
sorry to break it to you,
but per your above claims (the ones you
used for "evidence" that shows that you
are living in a bubble and are ignorant.
At least I hope so, because the only other
alternative is that you deliberately were
lying.
Quote:
tr>
as far as
abortion being "wrong"...... That's how
I see it~so two wrongs will never make it
right in that
situation.
given the "evidence" as
to how accurate your views are, you
claiming to "see" soemthign is rather an
indication that the opposite is true. At
least that is, per your current performace
on credibility.
Quote:
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and no I am not
against anyone having sex~but if someone
is not ready for the consequences maybe
they should be more
careful!
and women are indeed
ready for the consequenses, such as
seeking medical assistance to rectify
unwanted biological outcomes. What's
wrong with that?
Quote:
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condoms/birth
control
etc.......
ah yes. 59% of those
who seek an abortion were using
contraception.
Quote:
tr>
how can anyone
claim that a child is unwanted and unloved
utnill it gets a
chance??
the first evidence of
ignorance is your claim reagrding a
"child." "child" is a developmental stage
occuring after birth, so right there you
are posting nonsense. Secondly, if the
woman doesn't want to be pregnant, then
the pregnancy is unwanted regardless of
how much you are yammering about it. If
you want a child, go get pregnant
yourself. If you are against abortions,
don't have one. That really is all there
is to it for you.
Quote:
tr>
how many people
are out there who's parents almost decided
to abort them~but now have lives with many
people who love them, maybe no even their
parents!!
and so what?
Quote:
tr>
it is my opinion
that killing a life will never be right.
No matter what you call it
(fetus....Whatever)
indeed. "life"
is also called carrot, cow, bacteria and
just about anything you can imagine as
being food. So you are saying that you
never eat, right? Or were you actually
speaking nonsense because you
over-generalized?
Quote:
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or how you look
at it, in my eyes~abortion is a selfish
answer to a selfish
person.
well, in your eyes,
abortion falsely is perceived to be more
dangerous than giving birth. In your
eyes, abortion causes breast cancer.
So basically, whatever is in your eyes is
an outright lie. Guess that settles
that!
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 11-30-04 22:05pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
bluebubble888
wrote:
my second cousin was raped
and became pregnant. She decided to
have the baby and he is now 20 and serving
in the military. She loves that child
unconditionally.
hmmm.....Wonder why
there's no comments on
this???
why should there be?
She made a choice that was right for her.
Nothing wrong with that. You were not
under some silly misconception that we
want women to have abortions, were you?
(well, perhaps. After all, you are the
one who claimed that abortion was more
dangerous than giving birth, and that
abortion causes breast cancer, so it is
hard to know with you.)
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 11-30-04 22:07pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
found this site on another
post.....
It's extremely graphic
so......
so what? A 3rd
trimester emergency abortion. What does
that have to do with anything, unless you
are saying that even medically necessary
abortions should be outlawed?
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 11-30-04 22:09pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
http://www.Gospelcom.Net/...
.....
Read under all the bold headings.....
{by the way: this is not a religous
site}
really? Gospelcom is
not a religious site? So why do they
call themselves "a ministry of gospel
communications"?
Blue, why must you lie so much? What is
wrong with actually posting the truth once
in awhile?
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bd1012
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Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 11-30-04 23:08pm
bluebubble888
wrote:
my second cousin was raped
and became pregnant. She decided to
have the baby and he is now 20 and serving
in the military. She loves that child
unconditionally. Two wrongs have never
made a right. I've never heard of any
situaiton where a pregnancy would kill
someone.....And besides if thats even the
case....What are they doing getting
pregnant in the first place? I value
you opinioins and thoughts
well good for her.. Maybe she didn't have
an abortion because she didn't believe in
it and she would regret it if she did.
You can't tell me she was prochoice and
gestated to please prolifers.. Your point
is moot.
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 11-30-04 23:59pm
Who is to say that these pictures are
truly legit., or trick photography a
mentally ill patient in the hospital that
found a dead baby and mutilated it and
took pictures, their are a lot of sicko's
out their that would do sick stuff like
this, I have seen a lot of sick things
working in a psych ward and in hospitals,
social services, people on drugs, girls
and women that don't even take care of
themselves and then want to bring a baby
into this world.
Blue you do not understand my point and
anybody elses point and you never will,
you only twist things that people say,
sometimes in a pregnancy things happen
that we have no control over and the
pregnancy needs to be terminated, we do
not always see this before the pregnancy,
it is a choice of the pregnant woman, it
always has been and always will be. I am
not 100% for abortions either! B/c and
condoms are not 100% either, have you ever
saw a crack baby being brought into this
world, some of them don't even make it and
some that will never have a half-way
decent life, I hope you don't have to see
the things that I have seen in my life,
but if you did, you might understand more,
but at least try to be a little open
minded about things.
Always,
sandy
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jenn_smithson
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Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 12-01-04 01:14am
Most of the pictures on the internet that
are claiming to be pictures of the results
of abortion are in fact fake, doctored, or
dishonest. The most convincing I have
seen have actually been pictures of
stillbirths. Others have been
copyrighted material stolen from other
people and digitally enhanced. In fact,
several sites are currently in a lawsuit
with the people at anne geddes for
stealing a few of her pictures and calling
them abortions on their sites. Other
sites are under review for the same thing.