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bluebubble888

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Just a Thought....
Posted: 11-30-04 15:28pm

Funny how those who support abortion, were born:wink:
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bd1012

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Posted: 11-30-04 15:37pm

What was the point of that post?
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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 16:57pm

Free world, free forum, free posts~my thoughts are allowed to flow!!! Wink
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Posted: 11-30-04 17:20pm

Funny how child-molesters were born.
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2ferano

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Posted: 11-30-04 17:32pm

Funny, those who are against abortion were born. See, your "thoughts" make no sense. Obviously in order to develop a thought you would have to exist. Geez.
Let's see you get raped and fall pregnant with a pregnancy that would kill you if you continued with it. Then tell me you are against abortion.
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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 17:46pm

My second cousin was raped and became pregnant. She decided to have the baby and he is now 20 and serving in the military. She loves that child unconditionally. Two wrongs have never made a right. I've never heard of any situaiton where a pregnancy would kill someone.....And besides if thats even the case....What are they doing getting pregnant in the first place? I value you opinioins and thoughts Wink
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sandyallen

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Posted: 11-30-04 19:37pm

You must live in a bubble and never get out if you have never known a woman that needed to abort or it will end her life! You have never heard of a woman bleeding to death, pregnant(with fetus), how would she have known this would happen before she got pregnant. Accidents happen! Women die giving birth, women get pregnant and die of toxic poisoning, so therefore they should abort. Why bring something into this world that is not wanted, that will not be loved or taken care of and does not stand a chance of real life and that will not stand a chance of being adopted, this happens!
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen

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Posted: 11-30-04 19:49pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
two wrongs have never made a right.
but then, abortion is not a "wrong" so that's utterly immaterial.
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i've never heard of any situaiton where a pregnancy would kill someone....
so you are ignorant. No surprise there.
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.And besides if thats even the case....What are they doing getting pregnant in the first place?
damn, another misogynist.
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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 20:04pm

Wait women die giving birth?? Well then what does that have to do with abortion~noone would know about that kind of situation untill the women was in labor anyways so what's the point of aborting something you don't know is going to kill you if that's what you're claiming it will do. Abortions are fare more risky and have far many more harmfull effects than the natural process of birth. (increased risks of breast cancer and so on..) so no~i do not live in a bubble, and am not ignorant.
As far as abortion being "wrong"...... That's how I see it~so two wrongs will never make it right in that situation.
And no I am not against anyone having sex~but if someone is not ready for the consequences maybe they should be more careful! Condoms/birth control etc.......
How can anyone claim that a child is unwanted and unloved utnill it gets a chance?? How many people are out there who's parents almost decided to abort them~but now have lives with many people who love them, maybe no even their parents!!
It is my opinion that killing a life will never be right. No matter what you call it (fetus....Whatever) or how you look at it, in my eyes~abortion is a selfish answer to a selfish person.
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Posted: 11-30-04 20:05pm

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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 20:07pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
my second cousin was raped and became pregnant. She decided to have the baby and he is now 20 and serving in the military. She loves that child unconditionally.



hmmm.....Wonder why there's no comments on this???
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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 20:20pm

Http://www.Ab ortionismurder.Org/notconvinced.Shtml



found this site on another post.....
It's extremely graphic so......

{don't forget to make all the letters lowercase-you usually can't just click on it you have to copy past and change any upercase to lower case}
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bluebubble888

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Posted: 11-30-04 20:25pm

Http://www.Gospelco m.Net/watkins/article.Htm


read under all the bold headings.....

{by the way: this is not a religous site}
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steen

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Posted: 11-30-04 21:48pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
wait women die giving birth?? Well then what does that have to do with abortion~noone would know about that kind of situation untill the women was in labor anyways so what's the point of aborting something you don't know is going to kill you if that's what you're claiming it will do.
this is incredibly rambling and it is not clear what you are actually trying to say. Could you clarify your claim?
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abortions are fare more risky and have far many more harmfull effects than the natural process of birth.
that is an outright lie. You really don't need to lie to make your argument, do you? After all, the risk of death is 20 times higher from giving birth than from having an abortion.

So when you are trying to make claims, at least be sure they are right, rather than uncritically repeating the outright lies from the anti-abortion lie sites. It does kind of trash your credibility. F.Ex., now you come accross as either a deliberate liar, or you come accross as some silly dupe who believed anti-choice lies without first checking the claims out yourself.

Now, how are you going to fix that? Well, I am not sure. The first thing you need to do is to appologize for posting false information. The second thing you must do is to amke really sure that the claims yuo post here are actually true, which means that you have to double-check the anti-abortion lies with independent sources such as medical sites.

Until then, all we know about you is that you are willing to post lies. Is that the reputation you want?
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(increased risks of breast cancer and so on..)
actually, that lie has been soolidly disproven by the american cancer society which is contemplating suing all the sites that have that claim because it is scaremongering through lies. The american cancer society doesn't like people to lie and spread misinformation about cancer. So please don't repeat such lies, thanks.
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so no~i do not live in a bubble, and am not ignorant.
sorry to break it to you, but per your above claims (the ones you used for "evidence" that shows that you are living in a bubble and are ignorant.

At least I hope so, because the only other alternative is that you deliberately were lying.
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as far as abortion being "wrong"...... That's how I see it~so two wrongs will never make it right in that situation.
given the "evidence" as to how accurate your views are, you claiming to "see" soemthign is rather an indication that the opposite is true. At least that is, per your current performace on credibility.
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and no I am not against anyone having sex~but if someone is not ready for the consequences maybe they should be more careful!
and women are indeed ready for the consequenses, such as seeking medical assistance to rectify unwanted biological outcomes. What's wrong with that?
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condoms/birth control etc.......
ah yes. 59% of those who seek an abortion were using contraception.
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how can anyone claim that a child is unwanted and unloved utnill it gets a chance??
the first evidence of ignorance is your claim reagrding a "child." "child" is a developmental stage occuring after birth, so right there you are posting nonsense. Secondly, if the woman doesn't want to be pregnant, then the pregnancy is unwanted regardless of how much you are yammering about it. If you want a child, go get pregnant yourself. If you are against abortions, don't have one. That really is all there is to it for you.
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how many people are out there who's parents almost decided to abort them~but now have lives with many people who love them, maybe no even their parents!!
and so what?
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it is my opinion that killing a life will never be right. No matter what you call it (fetus....Whatever)
indeed. "life" is also called carrot, cow, bacteria and just about anything you can imagine as being food. So you are saying that you never eat, right? Or were you actually speaking nonsense because you over-generalized?
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or how you look at it, in my eyes~abortion is a selfish answer to a selfish person.
well, in your eyes, abortion falsely is perceived to be more dangerous than giving birth. In your eyes, abortion causes breast cancer.

So basically, whatever is in your eyes is an outright lie. Guess that settles that!
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Posted: 11-30-04 22:05pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
bluebubble888 wrote:
my second cousin was raped and became pregnant. She decided to have the baby and he is now 20 and serving in the military. She loves that child unconditionally.
hmmm.....Wonder why there's no comments on this???
why should there be? She made a choice that was right for her. Nothing wrong with that. You were not under some silly misconception that we want women to have abortions, were you? (well, perhaps. After all, you are the one who claimed that abortion was more dangerous than giving birth, and that abortion causes breast cancer, so it is hard to know with you.)
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Posted: 11-30-04 22:07pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
found this site on another post.....

It's extremely graphic so......
so what? A 3rd trimester emergency abortion. What does that have to do with anything, unless you are saying that even medically necessary abortions should be outlawed?
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steen

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Posted: 11-30-04 22:09pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
http://www.Gospelcom.Net/... .....
Read under all the bold headings.....

{by the way: this is not a religous site}
really? Gospelcom is not a religious site? So why do they call themselves "a ministry of gospel communications"?

Blue, why must you lie so much? What is wrong with actually posting the truth once in awhile?
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bd1012

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Posted: 11-30-04 23:08pm

bluebubble888 wrote:
my second cousin was raped and became pregnant. She decided to have the baby and he is now 20 and serving in the military. She loves that child unconditionally. Two wrongs have never made a right. I've never heard of any situaiton where a pregnancy would kill someone.....And besides if thats even the case....What are they doing getting pregnant in the first place? I value you opinioins and thoughts Wink


well good for her.. Maybe she didn't have an abortion because she didn't believe in it and she would regret it if she did. You can't tell me she was prochoice and gestated to please prolifers.. Your point is moot.
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sandyallen

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Posted: 11-30-04 23:59pm

Who is to say that these pictures are truly legit., or trick photography a mentally ill patient in the hospital that found a dead baby and mutilated it and took pictures, their are a lot of sicko's out their that would do sick stuff like this, I have seen a lot of sick things working in a psych ward and in hospitals, social services, people on drugs, girls and women that don't even take care of themselves and then want to bring a baby into this world.
Blue you do not understand my point and anybody elses point and you never will, you only twist things that people say, sometimes in a pregnancy things happen that we have no control over and the pregnancy needs to be terminated, we do not always see this before the pregnancy, it is a choice of the pregnant woman, it always has been and always will be. I am not 100% for abortions either! B/c and condoms are not 100% either, have you ever saw a crack baby being brought into this world, some of them don't even make it and some that will never have a half-way decent life, I hope you don't have to see the things that I have seen in my life, but if you did, you might understand more, but at least try to be a little open minded about things.
Always,
sandy
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jenn_smithson

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Posted: 12-01-04 01:14am

Most of the pictures on the internet that are claiming to be pictures of the results of abortion are in fact fake, doctored, or dishonest. The most convincing I have seen have actually been pictures of stillbirths. Others have been copyrighted material stolen from other people and digitally enhanced. In fact, several sites are currently in a lawsuit with the people at anne geddes for stealing a few of her pictures and calling them abortions on their sites. Other sites are under review for the same thing.
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