Why do prolifers think they need to prove
fetal pain to us or that the fetus is a
person? These are moot issues.. I don't
care if the pope is in my body.. If I
want him out.. He's out.. Whether he
feels pain or not isn't what determines
whether or not I have the right to
evacuate him.. You have nothing to
prove... Nothing at all.. The only thing
you can do is invent some way that the zef
can be incubated outside a womans uterus..
That's it.. Until then.. Nothing you
can "prove" to us matters.
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Moira
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Nov 2004 Posts: 302 Location: somewhere where it rains a lot
Posted: 12-12-04 16:18pm
They don't want to prove anything. They
want to repeat lies. Although some of the
poor things don't know that they're
lying...
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Moira Posted: 12-12-04 17:27pm
I totally agree with what you said. And
even if it were true, I would rather have
the pain of an embryo being aborted than
have the pain of being born into this
world where I would be unwanted, being
abused and neglected.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: Moira Posted: 12-12-04 17:47pm
sandyallen
wrote:
i totally agree with what
you said. And even if it were true, I
would rather have the pain of an embryo
being aborted than have the pain of being
born into this world where I would be
unwanted, being abused and neglected.
Sincerely,
sandy
the funny thing is that
the pro-lifers think we are debating
abortion, when in reality we are
discussing their misperceptions or lies.
None of what we are discussing actually
has a bearing on abortion, as the only
question with bearing on abortion is the
degree of right the woman has to control
her own body. Either it is there as roe
vs wade ruled, or it is not, her being a
second-class citizen. That is the only
salient point in the debate. Everything
else is about facts vs pro-life lies
irrelevant to abortion rights.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 12-12-04 19:07pm
I totally agree, these pro-lifers will
never learn or win, they have to keep on
telling more lies to cover up for the
one's that they have already told. I
love psychology. I have said this
before, their always has been a choice,
always is a choice and always will be a
choice for abortion and they will not be
able to change this. Pro-choice, all the
way! I agree, they are totally out there
and each time they are digging themselves
a bigger hole to place themselves in. I
agree a lot of this bull-roar they bring
up is irrelivant.
Sincerely,
sandy
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 12-12-04 23:01pm
While I of course agree with you
completely, without them we would have
nothing to talk about. We'd just all be
sitting around. And, there is hope. Bd
was at one time "pro-life" and we've
managed to show her the light. There's
always hope that the same can happen with
other self-styled "pro-lifers".
Peace,
jenn
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SamiNSunisMa
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 1528
Posted: 12-13-04 03:49am
"the
light" im on the fence, I believe u should
own up to ur actions, but there are
situations where its best for all involved
to have one
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 12-13-04 05:08am
That is exactly the pro-choice position.
Only we don't feel that we know better
than the woman involved as to what those
situations are.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 12-13-04 20:29pm
I totally agree that there is always hope,
some are just not to educated on the
subject of pro-choice and their are a lot
of pro-lifers are very mis-informed.
Sincerely,
sandy
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SamiNSunisMa
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Nov 2004 Posts: 1528
Posted: 12-13-04 20:34pm
Hmm I was pro-life until I saw the
abortion clinic bombing, since women go
there also for check ups.
Anyhow I think a lot of these ppl need to
own up.
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