You begin having this deep breathing
problem usually like a week ago. The
breath feels like you only got about
60%-80% of your breath. You find yourself
constantly taking "check deep breaths" and
sometimes it works, and sometimes it
doesn't. You tend to focus on the times
you do not get a satisfying breath and
panic. You end up focusing your day
solely on yawning and sighing until you
get relief.
You tend to revert to thinking you have
something worst such as COPD or worse yet,
the dreaded Empathzima, especially if you
smoke. The fact that your
broncodialators/anti-inflamatory meds
don't work reinforces the fear of
something with perminant damage (COPD).
As the days progress it tends to get worse
and your panic rate rises. You feel
clostaphobic and that you are going to go
into chardiac arrest, and that the ER
won't beable to do much for you other than
to keep you comfortable.
You talk to your family and friends for
constant reassurance, but you do not
listen to them or your doctor. You are
convinced there is something wrong with
you. You also have memories of having a
simular case as a kid.
Does this sound like anyone here?
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lilyfrye
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Dec 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 12-04-07 16:58pm
it's really comforting to read this
thread. i've been experiencing these
symptoms since i was 16 (i'm now 23): the
inability to take a satisfying breath,
chest tightness/heaviness and so forth. i
actually find that yawning helps me to
"release" the tightness in my chest 50% of
the time but the other 50% of the time it
is just maddeningly difficult to yawn. i
found this thread because last night i
tossed and turned from 12-4am in bed,
unable to breathe, and periodically dozing
off to sleep and then waking up feeling as
though i was suffocating from not getting
enough air, like i wasn't breathing in my
sleep. that was the worst it had ever
been. scary stuff, and it's still going on
today. it's so comforting to know that
other people have these same feelings
sometimes too and that i'm not alone (or
crazy, for that matter)! thanks for the
posts.
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infinitygirl
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 Dec 2007 Posts: 1
Not Getting a Deep Breath Posted: 12-12-07 15:09pm
Hi
I just discovered this forum and I have
been reading some very strong points to
exactly what I am dealing with.
Tigerswede -- for example - you have some
very simlar symptons to what I have. It
is driving me crazy and stressing me out.
If you have any information or advice I
would love to hear it -- Please.
I just don't know what to do anymore.
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angelbaaby8888f
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Dec 2007 Posts: 2 Location: chesterfeild mi,
Asthma Posted: 12-15-07 23:34pm
I have a 8 month old baby And he has
abutral for the breathing machine he just
took it and hes still weezing how long
intill i can give him another treatment
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msdebagain
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 25 Dec 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 12-25-07 21:55pm
i have the same thing now-- driving me
insane. i see the doctor tomorrow. my
bloodwork will include thyroid.
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wickedwanda
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Alberta.
Vocal Cord Dysfucntion Posted: 12-30-07 22:11pm
Hey guys you should google, VCD, Vocal
Cord dysfuction mimics Asthma, it is panic
induced and enviromentally induced.
Basically it means that your vocal cords
are not functioning properlly, u may
notice more coughing and sore throat,
spittle, choking or no symptoms at all.
Many people in the world think that they
have asthma when they have VCD, because of
lack of knowledge. VCD is caused by
Reflux. gerd heartburn, that we ignore and
the reflux damages your vocal cords. You
should see and ENT, to be assessed. Ear
Nose and Throat doctor.
Panicing closing your airways so it feels
like you can't breathe.. good thing is you
don;t die from vcd, u may pass out but
once you do your vocal cords relax and
open up, with asthma and u pass out, u
die.. I can not stress the importance of
deep breathing, all sorts of ways, thru
the nose little sniffs can help u with
vcd.
If u take meds and they don;t work, it may
be vcd, or an athelete's are affected by
this dysfunction. God Bless, Happy New
Year to All WW
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wickedwanda
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Alberta.
Re: Asthma Posted: 12-30-07 22:18pm
angelbaaby8888f
wrote:
I have a 8 month old baby
And he has abutral for the breathing
machine he just took it and hes still
weezing how long intill i can give him
another treatment
Seek out treatment, check for triggers
around the room and bed, keep clean
enviornment, simple, no toys, smoking,
perfume..he needs a clean room where he
sleeps, so important god bless ww
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vikki2008
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
Posted: 01-09-08 17:48pm
I have been having the same symptoms for
two years. I constantly feel the need to
take a deep breath, but I do not get the
satisfying feeling that you normally get.
When my symptoms first started, I couldn't
even string a sentence together without
taking a deep breath, now I can go about 2
minutes between each breath, as a teacher,
this makes life quite difficult!
My symptoms started just after a minor car
accident I was involved in, which resulted
in my car being written off. My doctor
put it down to stress. I took two weeks
off work, but my symptoms still persisted.
I saw the doctor four times in six months
and he always put it down to stress, even
though towards the end of the six months I
had nothing to be stressed about. I did
not go to the doctor again (because they
made me feel stupid) until a couple of
months ago with a persistent cough. The
doctor diagnosed me with asthma, but I
have recently had a spirometry test which
came back normal. The nurse probed my
history, and I am finally getting the
medical attention I needed two years ago.
A chest x-ray is currently being
considered, but if that comes back normal
I will be referred to a chest physician.
I'm just hoping that I can get an answer
to my problems soon. Although it is not
life-threatening (I think), it is an
inconvenience!
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wickedwanda
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Alberta.
Asthma Is Life Threatning Posted: 01-09-08 18:13pm
Hello, what was your oxygen level? normal
is 96 to 100%, they put a little meter on
your fingar and it tells them you heart
rate and your O2 levels. Its very good
idea to get x-rays, yearly if you feel
un-well with your lungs, stick to the same
hospital, seek out an asthma specialist.
Please don't feel dumb, its the doctor
that should feel dumb, seek out another
doctor, keep a diary of your synptoms,
food, stress, weather, odditys within your
body.. There are better ways to breathe
than to suck in your breathe, u need to
breathe thru your nose and push your belly
out, its the way opera singers breathe,
this allows you to breath deeper.. You
need to have a spirometery test done, when
you are feeling ill, and u may have an
asthma attack after the test. Family
doctors don;t know it all, as much as they
think they do, demand to be sent to a
specialist, google them in your area, go
into the doctor and tell them you want to
be referred to THIS doctor, (u should call
and confirm that they are accepting new
patients) as it does require the family
doctor to forward a letter, and depending
on where you are in the world you may have
to pay for it.. Asthma is life
threatening, if it truly is asthma your
o2's will be down and your spiromertry
will be down.. You may have triggers in
your house that bothers you.. Do u smoke?
so many things make asthma worse as u get
older, so being proactive about your
health is the responsible thing to do and
no doctor should make u feel stupid. Do
have shortness of breathe when you work
out?
Stay strong seek out a pulminologist,
respiratory doctors google those
Good luck god bless ww
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jeff62
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
Re: Can't Take a Deep Breath Posted: 01-09-08 20:29pm
griffsgal
wrote:
I googled and found this
too. My husband wants me to see a doctor
because of it but it seems that they don't
know how to diagnose the problem. I feel
silly trying to explain to a doctor that I
can't take a satisfying deep breath. I
believe that I breath fine. It doesn't
hurt and doesn't keep me awake. It's just
annoying to try and breath deeply but not
deep enough to make it over the threshold
of feeling good. And when it finally is
satisfying, you do it all over again. I
believe stress triggers it. Sometimes I
don't even know i'm trying to take deep
breaths until my husband asks me if i'm
having trouble breathing. I noticed
about 10 years ago, that I started sighing
a lot. I don't seem to have control over
that either. I'm 36. It seems that the
sighing might be a mild case of the
problem and then it grows into the need
for deep breaths which last days
sometimes, like now, or just a few hours
or not at all. Do you think it is worth
seeing a doctor? I don't have very good
insurance and it looks like it is
misdiagnosed as something it isn't. I'm
also afraid that once I make an
appointment, I won't be experiencing the
problem.
Griffsgal -i have the same thing -it just
came on me about a week ago. My doctor
says lungs are clear -but I feel like you
state. I've talked to others who have
experienced similar and all seems to point
to anxiety either realized or unrealized.
I do have asthma which has worsened this
year so immediately I tagged that as the
underlying cause -still not convinced
otherwise because i'm not very good at
taking medications as intended and doctors
will warn you about this. I'm searching
for answers too and stumbled here -very
helpful comments and immediately related
to your experience -
- have been trying not to yawn or think
about it -which seems to help. Also
diaphram breathing described at http://This link has been
removed/forums/RespiratoryDisorders/messag
es/1571.html
hope this helps -jeff62
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jeff62
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
Re: This Is What the Doc Told Me Posted: 01-09-08 20:44pm
griffsgal
wrote:
I saw a specialist today.
We ruled out asthma and had a chest x-ray
that showed everything was fine there. He
just simply told me I had
"hyperventilation syndrome". And if you
google those words with the "" then you
get 50,000 hits. He also said it could
be called "unrewarded breathing" or
"sighing respiration". He said he could
give me meds that would help with the
stress, but I declined because I didn't
like the sound of the side effects. I
don't know if that helps anyone. I have a
little peace of mind knowing i'm not going
to die from it.
Wow -I'm not really paying attention to
who wrote what as I stroll through these
posts -but I was surprised to see this -it
is great information. Thanks for coming
back and posting this -I'm still not
convinced that my as-of-late increase in
asthma attacks is not somehow connected to
my new "cant breathe deep" experience -but
hey at 46 the problems are lining up at
the door -this could be a new one
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wickedwanda
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Alberta.
Re: This Is What the Doc Told Me Posted: 01-09-08 22:16pm
[quote="jeff62"]
griffsgal
wrote:
I saw a specialist today.
We ruled out asthma and had a chest x-ray
that showed everything was fine there. He
just simply told me I had
"hyperventilation syndrome". And if you
google those words with the "" then you
get 50,000 hits. He also said it could
be called "unrewarded breathing" or
"sighing respiration". He said he could
give me meds that would help with the
stress, but I declined because I didn't
like the sound of the side effects. I
don't know if that helps anyone. I have a
little peace of mind knowing i'm not going
to die from it.
Wow -I'm not really paying attention to
who wrote what as I stroll through these
posts -but I was surprised to see this -it
is great information. Thanks for coming
back and posting this -I'm still not
convinced that my as-of-late increase in
asthma attacks is not somehow connected to
my new "cant breathe deep" experience -but
hey at 46 the problems are lining up at
the door -this could be a new one [/quote
Welcome to the Breathless club!? only 46?! thats
good! Gotta have a sense of humor about
these things, but never trust a doctor
with too many big words, so listen to your
body and go on instinct and feel (to
griffsgal), doctors are only human and to
trust completely, is not good for ya,
trust me "bin there and done that" , get
second opinion, u must be in-distress to
get a true asthma reading. good luck ww
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jeff62
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
Re: This Is What the Doc Told Me Posted: 01-10-08 15:53pm
[quote="wickedwanda"]
jeff62
wrote:
griffsgal
wrote:
I saw a specialist today.
We ruled out asthma and had a chest x-ray
that showed everything was fine there. He
just simply told me I had
"hyperventilation syndrome". And if you
google those words with the "" then you
get 50,000 hits. He also said it could
be called "unrewarded breathing" or
"sighing respiration". He said he could
give me meds that would help with the
stress, but I declined because I didn't
like the sound of the side effects. I
don't know if that helps anyone. I have a
little peace of mind knowing i'm not going
to die from it.
Wow -I'm not really paying attention to
who wrote what as I stroll through these
posts -but I was surprised to see this -it
is great information. Thanks for coming
back and posting this -I'm still not
convinced that my as-of-late increase in
asthma attacks is not somehow connected to
my new "cant breathe deep" experience -but
hey at 46 the problems are lining up at
the door -this could be a new one [/quote
Welcome to the Breathless club!? only 46?! thats
good! Gotta have a sense of humor about
these things, but never trust a doctor
with too many big words, so listen to your
body and go on instinct and feel (to
griffsgal), doctors are only human and to
trust completely, is not good for ya,
trust me "bin there and done that" , get
second opinion, u must be in-distress to
get a true asthma reading. good luck ww
Thanks -I must admit however that I
determined last night to restart my Advair
treatments and this "new" other problem
has slightly improved -still can't get a
good yawn -but having gained a better
understanding of how our lungs and
bronchials work -i am hopeful.
I'm curious what griffsgal's doctor is
doing for her hyperventilation?
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wickedwanda
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2006 Posts: 108 Location: Alberta.
Speech Therapy Posted: 01-10-08 16:55pm
Naughty man not taking your advair, i am
very thank-ful for that drug, it has kept
me from going in the hosptial on a monthly
basis, but must be loyal to it.
hyperventelating - well speech therapists
help in that they teach how to breathe
and, the power of the mind. I have a
sensation that comes over me, of panic,
and i start having trouble breathing, so i
gentally sniff through my nose, and open
my vocal cords, and then i tell my self,
"DON'T GO THERE BRAIN" AND i try and
imediatly do something that requires
thought, and it helps take my mind off it.
But when the vocal cords close, man thats
scary and you can't die from VCD, but it
is truly one of the scariest things to go
to. I thought going to see and ent or
speech therapist would be a pain in the
a--, but i went in with an open mind and
wow, it really helped my self and all my
specialists, to understand that not all
breathing problems are asthma, but may be
combinations of asthma, VCD, panic attacks
and hyperventilation. I have worked hard
to re-train my lazy vocal cords and learn
to breathe deeply using abdomen.. It will
be interesting to hear what griffsgal has
to say! there is always hope.. I'll be
here for u guys all the bestww
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belladonna
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 01-17-08 14:31pm
I am so releived to find out I am not in
this alone!!! I have had this problem, off
and on, for 15 years. The first "attack"
was when i was pregnant with my now 14
year old daughter. I had to pull my car
over and get out to be able to get a
deep cleansing breath. It lasted for a
few weeks that time. Since then I have
had bouts with it several times. And they
last anywhere from a few days to a couple
months. I actually went 4 years the last
time without any symptoms, and I thought
it was gone. I had asthma like symptoms
when I was a kid, but it was never the
liquidy, mucusy stuff, that asthmatics
describe. My doctor has told me that its
a return of my "asthma" and given me more
inhalers and now a neb machine, all of
which don't work.
I do think stress plays a role, because I
have noticed when I get anxious about
these attacks they get worse. Also....I
found a thread on Chronic Hyperventilation
that was intreging. I am going to try the
breathing exercises that the site
recommended and see if they work. If
anyone else is interested, I simply typed
in Chronic Hyperventilation and got all
kinds of info. I am definitely also going
to call my Doc about the Singular (he has
recommended it anyway)
Talking about this is also really good
therapy...I feel releived.
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janek
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
Yawning but no releif Posted: 01-23-08 17:07pm
Hi everyone,
I have been reading the posts because I
have been yawning non stop now for about a
week. I feel this pressure build up in my
chest like I need to get a big gulp of
air. I open my mouth and try to get the
big, satisfying intake of air but it won't
come. Maybe after three or four attempts I
finally get that great gulp giving me
instant relief. But then the pressure
builds up again in a minute or so. I have
felt so fatigued by the end of the day
from trying to get oxygen that I fall into
bed by 9:00 AM as soon as I get my 4 year
old daughter to bed. I finally went to the
doctor today because I was so sick of
feeling like this. She said she thinks I
have an iron deficiency anemia. She drew
the lab tests and I will have the results
tomorrow. She said that the anemia is
causing my body to crave oxogen but it
just doesn't get what it needs because of
the anemia. She put something on my finger
to test my oxygen intake. She said I was
normal, at 99 but my heart was pumping
faster than normal. When I stood up to
walk my heart rate jumped up quite a bit.
She said this is because my heart is
working extra hard because of the anemia.
This would also explain why after I lay
down for bed at night the problem goes
away until I get up the next day. I sure
hope it is anemia because there is a
treatment for iron deficiency. If not,
then I will look into anxiety but I am not
having anything in my life different that
I would be overly anxious about right now.
My doctor said she doesn't think it is
anxiety and feels that too many doctors
just label problems like this anxiety
instead of trying to find the REAL reason
or cause. I will let you know tomorrow
after I get my lab results if it is anemia
or not. If not, then she said she would
recommend a chest Xray next.
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janek
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 3
Yawning but no releif Posted: 01-23-08 17:08pm
Hi everyone,
I have been reading the posts because I
have been yawning non stop now for about a
week. I feel this pressure build up in my
chest like I need to get a big gulp of
air. I open my mouth and try to get the
big, satisfying intake of air but it won't
come. Maybe after three or four attempts I
finally get that great gulp giving me
instant relief. But then the pressure
builds up again in a minute or so. I have
felt so fatigued by the end of the day
from trying to get oxygen that I fall into
bed by 9:00 AM as soon as I get my 4 year
old daughter to bed. I finally went to the
doctor today because I was so sick of
feeling like this. She said she thinks I
have an iron deficiency anemia. She drew
the lab tests and I will have the results
tomorrow. She said that the anemia is
causing my body to crave oxogen but it
just doesn't get what it needs because of
the anemia. She put something on my finger
to test my oxygen intake. She said I was
normal, at 99 but my heart was pumping
faster than normal. When I stood up to
walk my heart rate jumped up quite a bit.
She said this is because my heart is
working extra hard because of the anemia.
This would also explain why after I lay
down for bed at night the problem goes
away until I get up the next day. I sure
hope it is anemia because there is a
treatment for iron deficiency. If not,
then I will look into anxiety but I am not
having anything in my life different that
I would be overly anxious about right now.
My doctor said she doesn't think it is
anxiety and feels that too many doctors
just label problems like this anxiety
instead of trying to find the REAL reason
or cause. I will let you know tomorrow
after I get my lab results if it is anemia
or not. If not, then she said she would
recommend a chest Xray next.
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sleepystar
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Jan 2008 Posts: 1
wow Posted: 01-27-08 11:03am
i have just started experiencing having
problems taking a deep breath. i don't
freak out or feel anxious, and repeatedly
trying to yawn eventually helps. it gets
bad when i read a story to my son or eat,
or sometimes when i am just sitting there.
just started going to doctor also for
extreme fatigue (so tired out of nowhere i
can fall asleep and it's like passing out)
and just odd little changes. my throat
hurts every morning when i wake up and i
cannot seem to ever have a normal bowel
movement--i get bad cramps before and also
have a lot of gas all of a sudden. i have
been wondering if i have an allergy to
something. and it is weird because i feel
like i have been eating healthier and i
have dramatically cut back on smoking
(maybe 3 to 5 cigarettes a day or even
less) and my stress level is down, so i
can't understand why this is happening
now. i was diagnosed with fibromyalgia as
a teen but didn't really take it
seriously. i was "undiagnosed" by the
first doc i went torecently who said i
just need more sleep! my doc now has done
tests and everything seems normal, except
i was a little dehydrated or something by
my co2 levels (?) one nurse i talked to
thought it was thyroid problems (which my
mom has) but i guess my thyroid is fine.
i also have been starting to feel like the
doc thinks i am nuts, it is so good to
hear others with the same symptoms! my
family keeps suggesting all kinds of
things, like lyme disease, but i haven't
gotten that far! i go for another visit
soon...
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lalala16
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Feb 2008 Posts: 1
I also can't breath! Posted: 02-04-08 09:48am
I also can not breath. It has taken over
my days. In early December I went to the
ER and they did a CT scan, a chest Xray,
and an EKG and said everything looked
normal and told me I have anxiety.
I know my anxiety comes from these health
problems, but I don't have any stressors
that would have brought this anxiety on
and I don't know what I can do for it.
It seems to get worse after I exercise,
and even sometimes when I lay down, but I
always sleep well and don't wake up
gasping for air. I just feel this constant
heaviness in my chest, and can not take a
deep breath, even sometimes when I yawn I
am unable to.
I'm so scared something is wrong and
they're not finding it!
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belladonna
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2008 Posts: 5
Posted: 02-04-08 11:01am
Read back over all of the posts on this
site and you should feel better. These
people have been through all kinds of
tests and they find nothing. You are the
same as all of us. Try not to stress so
much it does make it worse!!!
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