Re: Placenta Previa
Posted: 01-03-05 11:15am
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| bd1012
wrote: | someone mentioned that they
were a hemophiliac and abortion could be
dangerous because some blood is lost
during abortion and people with hemophilia
have a problem with their blood clotting
and are at a higher risk of bleeding to
death. Well read this.
Http://www.Emedicine
.Com/emerg/topic427.Htm |
actually this has nothing to do with
hemophiliacs but, look what it does say
causes are:
causes:
prior uterine insult or injury
risk factors
prior previa (4-8%)
first subsequent pregnancy following a
cesarean delivery
multiparity (5% in grand multiparous
patients)
advanced maternal age
multiple gestations
prior
induced abortion
smoking
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-03-05 11:23am
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Well now no one is forced to have an
abortion.. At least not by law.. And of
course abortion has it's risks.. Same as
pregnancy.. Every surgery has risks..This
is why I am prochoice.. Because no one
should force anyone to do anything that
could harm them.. No matter what.
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Re: Placenta Previa
Posted: 01-03-05 18:28pm
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| lil_blaze2004
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prior uterine insult or injury
risk factors
prior previa (4-8%)
first subsequent pregnancy following a
cesarean delivery
multiparity (5% in grand multiparous
patients)
advanced maternal age
multiple gestations
prior
induced abortion
smoking |
it also says "first subsequent pregnancy
following a cesarean delivery and
multiparity". Shall we outlaw c-sections
and having more than two babies??
Rosie
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Re: Placenta Previa
Posted: 01-03-05 21:44pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | but, look what it does say
causes are:
causes:
prior uterine insult or injury
risk factors
prior previa (4-8%)
first
subsequent pregnancy following a cesarean
delivery
multiparity (5% in grand multiparous
patients)
advanced maternal age
multiple gestations
prior induced abortion
smoking |
wow, seems like
we better outlaw smoking and pregnancy
after c-section. Guess we better do a
hysterectomy right there when we do the
c-section, right?
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Posted: 01-04-05 00:17am
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Abortions just a walk in the park with no
complications right?
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Re: Placenta Previa
Posted: 01-04-05 08:56am
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| steen
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | but, look what it does say
causes are:
causes:
prior uterine insult or injury
risk factors
prior previa (4-8%)
first
subsequent pregnancy following a cesarean
delivery
multiparity (5% in grand multiparous
patients)
advanced maternal age
multiple gestations
prior induced abortion
smoking |
wow, seems like
we better outlaw smoking and pregnancy
after c-section. Guess we better do a
hysterectomy right there when we do the
c-section,
right? |
steen I was showing bd cause she said
these were pregnancy complications which
they are but one of the reasons is
abortion.
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Posted: 01-04-05 10:39am
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| mom2trevor
wrote: | | abortions just a walk in the
park with no complications
right? |
pregnancy is just a walk in the park with
no complications right?
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Posted: 01-04-05 10:47am
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| bd1012
wrote: | | mom2trevor
wrote: | | abortions just a walk in the
park with no complications
right? |
pregnancy is just a walk in the park with
no complications
right? |
there could be complications from both or
none at all. But for the woman who wants
their child, pregnancy is a much better
alternative.
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-04-05 10:49am
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Yes.. For the woman who wants it..What is
hard to understand? Everything has risks
and that is why no one should be forced to
do one thing or another.. Whether it be
pregnancy or abortion or even adoption.
Everyone should have the right to decide
what they are willing to go through and
decide what is best for them. What is
good for one, isn't for another.. This is
what choice is all about.
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Posted: 01-04-05 10:54am
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| bd1012
wrote: | | yes.. For the woman who
wants it..What is hard to understand?
Everything has risks and that is why no
one should be forced to do one thing or
another.. Whether it be pregnancy or
abortion or even adoption. Everyone
should have the right to decide what they
are willing to go through and decide what
is best for them. What is good for one,
isn't for another.. This is what choice
is all about. |
of course everyone should have the choice,
but there should be limitations. Thereis
a girl inthe abortion forum who is 22 and
has had 7 abortions in 4 years. That's a
little extreme. I mean sure it's the
woman's body but....C'mon.
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Posted: 01-04-05 11:22am
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Ug.. So what? I have said this several
times.. Either electives abortions are
wrong or they aren't.. If the first 3 are
acceptable why not 4 more? What's the
difference? What makes the last 4 zefs
anymore special? Is it because you want
her to use birth control and be
responsible? It's not the governments
responsibility to make sure people are
responsible.. Otherwise we might as well
outlaw fried foods and baskin robbins and
replace them with fitness centers and
gyms.
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Posted: 01-04-05 11:36am
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| bd1012
wrote: | | ug.. So what? I have
said this several times.. Either
electives abortions are wrong or they
aren't.. If the first 3 are acceptable
why not 4 more? What's the difference?
What makes the last 4 zefs anymore
special? Is it because you want her to
use birth control and be responsible?
It's not the governments responsibility to
make sure people are responsible..
Otherwise we might as well outlaw fried
foods and baskin robbins and replace them
with fitness centers and
gyms. |
no I just think it gets more dangerous
after the first one or 2. That's my
opinion, I could be worng factually but I
still think an average of 2 abortions a
year is a little extreme. If she knows
she's that fertile, get on some sort of
birth control and wear a condom and use
some spermicide!
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Posted: 01-04-05 12:15pm
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Oh we all know you would.. You sound like
judge judy.. Think the world is black and
white and this group of people do
this..They do that and everyone who does
this is wrong no matter what.. Take your
sunglasses off.. It won't hurt to see a
lil color.
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Posted: 01-04-05 12:45pm
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| lil_blaze2004
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no I just think it gets more dangerous
after the first one or 2. That's my
opinion, I could be worng factually but I
still think an average of 2 abortions a
year is a little extreme. If she knows
she's that fertile, get on some sort of
birth control and wear a condom and use
some
spermicide! |
if she's this irresponsible, how do you
think she could be relied upon to be a
responsible parent? Btw, I saw the post
and I have my doubts about the
truthfulness of the poster.
Rosie
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Posted: 01-04-05 14:29pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | ug.. So what? I have
said this several times.. Either
electives abortions are wrong or they
aren't.. If the first 3 are acceptable
why not 4 more? What's the difference?
What makes the last 4 zefs anymore
special? Is it because you want her to
use birth control and be responsible?
It's not the governments responsibility to
make sure people are responsible..
Otherwise we might as well outlaw fried
foods and baskin robbins and replace them
with fitness centers and
gyms. |
no I just think it gets more dangerous
after the first one or 2. That's my
opinion, I could be worng factually but I
still think an average of 2 abortions a
year is a little extreme. If she knows
she's that fertile, get on some sort of
birth control and wear a condom and use
some
spermicide! |
and you don't think pregnancy is a little
more dangerous afeter the first one or 2?
I know woman aren't dogs but this is just
an example... Dog breeders can only breed
a certain dog for so long before the
birthmother can not bear anymore litters..
That means that so many pregnancies can
be detrimental to somebody.. Just because
it's natural.. Doesn't mean it's safe.
If a dog can only handle so many
pregnancies.. Woman probably can't
either.
You woman are too stuck up on the fact
that since pregnancy is natural.. It
must not be dangerous.. I was that way
too when I was prolife. It never made
since to me then.. That was like telling
me "don't step on the floor.. You might
break it".. But then I realized that not
all things that are natural are safe..
Cancer is natural isnt' it? Sometimes
caused by unnatural things but it's
natural right? But it is dangerous.
Another argument that you all have is that
abortion messes with gods will.. If this
whole christianity thing is real.. Maybe
it does but we do things that are against
his will all the time. What if someone
gets hit by a car.. Do you think it's
gods will that they go and just let it be
or should we save them? What if someone
is dying and we bring them back to life..
Isn't that messing with gods will? After
all.. If we let nature take it's course..
That person would die right? See what I
am saying?
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Posted: 01-04-05 14:38pm
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I don't understand the argument of
pregnancy vs. Abortion.
These are 2 completely different issues.
I couldn't give a rats a$$ if some girl
goes out and aborts 25 doing it times but
I would not! And no I don't think
pregnancy is more dangerous after the
first one or 2 unless you had previous
complications. You will never convince a
woman who wants a child that abortion is
the "right thing to do."
my pregnancy is going great now and I
would never consider aborting my child.
And nothing anyone can say would make me
think that aborting someone I want sooooo
badly in my life is right. Maybe for the
girls who went and messed up, but I am a
mature, financially stable and in a loving
relationship. My family is excited, my
friends are excited, especially the others
that are preggers too. I'm so sick of
arguing over this .S.T.U.P.I.D moronic
topic but... Hey some of these posts
just need a reply!
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-04-05 14:41pm
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What makes you think that we belive
abortion is the right thing to do? All
we are trying to explain is why either
option shouldn't be forced.. You want to
continue the pregnancy.. Go ahead.. I
don't care, as long as you are doing
what's right for you.. That is all that
matters. We are not trying to convince
anyone abortion is the right thing to do..
We are explaining why pregnancy should
not be forced.. That's all.
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