I took this off of http://www.Prce.Org/prc_f
irstnine.Html
it was on many different sites but I took
it from this one. It goes past 12
weeks but I left it at that since that is
usually the cut off date for when
abortions are done.
The first nine months day 1 sperm joins
the ovum (egg)
to form one cell — smaller than
a grain of salt. The new life has
inherited 23 chromosomes from
each parent, 46 in all. This one
cell contains the complex genetic
blueprint for every detail of
human development — the child's
sex, hair and eye color, height,
skin tone.
Days 3 - 4 the fertilized egg
travels down
the fallopian tube into the uterus,
where the lining has been prepared
for implantation.
Days 5 - 9 during this time,
the fertilized
egg implants itself in the rich
lining of the uterus and begins
to draw nourishment.
Days 10 - 14 the developing
embryo signals
its presence through placental
chemicals and hormones, preventing
the mother from menstruating.
Day 20 foundations of the
brain,
spinal cord and nervous
system are already established.
day 21-24
the heart begins to
beat.
day 28 the backbone and
muscles are
forming. Arms, legs, eyes and
ears have begun to show.
Day 30 at one month old, the
embryo is 10,000 times
larger than the original fertilized egg —
and
developing rapidly. The heart is
pumping
increasing quantities of blood through the
circu-
latory system. The placenta forms a
unique
barrier that keeps the mother's blood
separate
while allowing food and oxygen to pass
through
to the embryo.
Day 35 five fingers can be
discerned
in the hand. The eyes darken
as pigment is produced.
Day 40 brain waves can be
detected and recorded.
Week 6 the liver is now
taking over the production of
blood cells, and the brain begins to
control
movement of muscles and organs.
Week 7 the embryo begins to move
sponta-
neously. The jaw forms, including
teeth buds in the gums. Soon the
eyelids will seal to protect the embryo's
developing light-sensitive eyes, and will
reopen at about the seventh month.
Week 8 at a little more than an
inch long, the
developing life is now called a fetus —
latin for "young one" or "offspring."
everything is now present that will be
found in a fully developed adult. The
heart has been beating for more than
a month, the stomach produces diges-
tive juices and the kidneys have begun
to function. Forty muscle sets begin
to
operate in conjuction with the nervous
system. the fetus' body responds to
touch, although the mother will not be
able to feel movement until the fourth
or fifth month.
week 9 fingerprints are already
evident in the
in the skin. The fetus will curve its
fingers around an object placed in the
palm of its hand.
Week 10 the uterus has now
doubled
in size. The fetus can squint,
swallow and wrinkle its
forehead.
Week 11 at this time, the
fetus is about
two inches long. Urination oc-
curs. The face has assumed a
baby's profile, and muscle
movements are becoming more
coordinated.
Week 12 the fetus now sleeps,
awakens and exercises
its muscles energetically — turning its
head,
curling its toes, and opening and closing
its
mouth. The palm, when stroked, will
make a
tight fist. The fetus breathes
amniotic fluid
to help develop its respiratory system.
the growth
pattern described above is recognized by
medical information and documented by
scientific research. Slight variations
in developmental days may exist from
individual to individual.
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bd1012
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Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 01-04-05 14:14pm
Even if this is true..So what? The
mother has all those things and more yet
you don't give a damn about her! You
silly prolifers.. Nothing will ever trump
the right to have an abortion.. Fetal
pain, development, pas.. Nothing. None
of it matters really.. Those are just
side issues. One more thing.. Even if
pas is true.. Why does it matter? Why
do you worry so much about woman who
suffer grief and complications from
abortion but not pregnancy? Oh that's
right.. You only care about what she goes
through when it suits you.. As for pain
and development of the fetus.. Yeah..The
woman is fully developed and has twice the
capacities of a fetus yet you don't care
jack squat about her and what about the
pain the woman feels while she is pregnant
and going through labor? She shoulnd't
have had sex if she didn't want to get
pregnant? Well if the fetus doesn't want
to be aborted.. Then it shouldn't have
invaded her body.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-04-05 14:29pm
Bd I posted this because of the certain
people here saying that babies (sorry
fetus') do not feel or there is no
heartbeat untill a certain time. And the
reason I say I am pro-life is because I do
not completely agree with all the
pro-choice stats. Although I still love
my best friend who has had 2 aboritons and
my aunt who had one while she was young
and.....
pro choice
stats:
the fetus is not a human, just a mass of
tissue (i don't believe that)
abortion is safer than childbirth. (i
think this a crock of caca)
every child should be a wanted child.
(of course)
the number of abortions is relatively
small. (don't believe that)
nobody has the right to impose their
morals on me. (i believe that)
a woman should be able to control her own
body. (of course to a certain extent-
then prostitution and drugs should be
legal too right??)
abortion must be kept legal, especially
for all the rape and incest pregnancies.
(yes fine)
if abortion is outlawed women will be
forced to go to back-alley abortion
clinics. (??????)
aborting unwanted children reduces the
number of abused children. (????)
we need to remember that we are
overpopulating the planet. (big deal we
just lost almost 200,000 people to a
natural disaster)
planned parenthood is a group that focuses
on contraception. (i don't know anything
about pp)
pro-life
stats:
i believe that the unborn child is human.
(yes)
i believe that abortion is fundamentally a
civil rights issue, (yes i'm not super
religious)
i believe that the roe v. Wade decision,
legalizing abortion on demand in america,
was one of the most important and
devastating supreme court decisions.
(????)
i believe that a constitutional amendment
should be passed that gives equal
protection to all living humans, including
the unborn. (yes)
i believe that the violence inside and
outside abortion clinics is morally wrong.
(yes-including the protesters)
i believe that rape and incest are
horrible crimes and should be punished,
but I don't believe that a child conceived
from either should be killed. (don't
totally agree with that)
i do not believe that the government
should fund abortions. (yes)
being a religious person, I believe that
the bible backs up my views on abortion.
(i'm not religious so no answer)
Abortion facts is a biased site.. The
reason why we have a problem with those is
becuase we can't fully trust the info..
It may be deceptive.. It may not be but
it's still hard to trust.. Chances are if
the website is dedicted to abortion..
It's biased. You may want to go to a
full medical site that has info on several
things in medicine and not just abortion.
It's my opinion that prochoice isn't
biased at all but for the sanctity of the
debate.. I try to steer away from using
sites that are prochoice.. It's hard to
find nonbiased sites though.. That's the
only thing.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-04-05 14:41pm
bd1012
wrote:
abortion facts is a biased
site.. The reason why we have a problem
with those is becuase we can't fully trust
the info.. It may be deceptive.. It
may not be but it's still hard to trust..
Chances are if the website is dedicted to
abortion.. It's biased. You may want
to go to a full medical site that has info
on several things in medicine and not just
abortion. It's my opinion that
prochoice isn't biased at all but for the
sanctity of the debate.. I try to steer
away from using sites that are prochoice..
It's hard to find nonbiased sites
though.. That's the only
thing.
how is it biased. It takes perspectives
from both pro-lifers and pro-choicers!!!!
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bd1012
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Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 01-04-05 14:43pm
How is it biased? I can tell based on
the language! Unborn baby? Proabortion
people? Abortionists? Yeah... Only
prolifers use that lingo.
it's clearly a pl point of view answering
those questions.
but it is an "unborn baby" it's not a
baby. Ok and what do u want us to call
doc's who only do abortions????
Doctor's??? Well there is a title for
every type of doc and abortionist is a
type.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 01-04-05 14:59pm
I believe you call them obgyns.. Not too
sure though. And no.. They are not
unborn babys.. The correct term and only
term is zygote/embryo/fetus. No need for
"unborn baby".. The baby stage begins
after birth.. That would be like saying
you are a predead corpse.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-04-05 15:03pm
bd1012
wrote:
i believe you call them
obgyns.. Not too sure though. And
no.. They are not unborn babys.. The
correct term and only term is
zygote/embryo/fetus. No need for
"unborn baby".. The baby stage begins
after birth.. That would be like saying
you are a predead
corpse.
actually you're right about the ob-gyn
thing. I didn't do my research till
after posting it. But even in newspapers
and things they are called abortionists or
abortion doc's.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 01-04-05 15:22pm
That's probably because they are trying to
be very specific as to what they are
talking about and don't know any other
term to use.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 01-04-05 16:22pm
Prostitution is legal in certain states,
in certain areas, of the u.S.A. Look at
nevada. You can get a medical marijuana
card in some states, so, that is legal and
it does not take much to get one. I feel
they should legalize mj and prostitution
all over the u.S., it would sure help out
on the tax situation.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: the First 12 Weeks... Posted: 01-04-05 18:04pm
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
i'm sure i'll get a lot of
caca for this
but...
lets just say that it is
full of "inaccuracies." inaccuracies that
are as irrelevant to the issue of abortion
as is anything relating to the fetus, but
it is full of inaccuracies none the
less.
As for your source, it is a crisis
pregnancy center, a "clinic" set up
specifically to combat abortions and thus
is to be expected to be biased as it
indeed is.
As for this:
Quote:
tr>
the growth
pattern described above is recognized by
medical information and documented by
scientific research. Slight
variations in developmental days may exist
from individual to
individual.
actually, ir is full of
lies and is not recognized as medical or
scientific information. That is why you
shouldn't get your information from biased
sites. While they may *say* that their
claim is honest, there is no
accountability for this claim. On a
fast read-through, I counted 18
inaccuracies, ommissions including 6
outright **lies.**** perhaps actual,
scientific sites without any kind of
abortion agenda pro-or-con would have been
a better source.
Is that the quality of information that
you need to use to make a pro-life
argument )that still doesn't have anything
to do with the right to an abortion)?
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 01-04-05 18:11pm
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
bd I posted this because of
the certain people here saying that babies
(sorry fetus') do not feel or there is no
heartbeat untill a certain
time.
claims that have been
documented from unbiased, independent,
scientific sources.
Quote:
tr>
abortion is safer
than childbirth. (i think this a crock
of caca)
you may "think" so all
you want. In *reality,* however, when in
the united states 3-8 women die from about
1 mill "elective" abortions and 300-500
women die from 4.5 mill births, the
***fact*** is that abortion is much safer
than giving birth. Yes, you may continue
to "believe" that it is a crock of....
However, it is a belief that directly is
contradicted by factual information.
Quote:
tr>
a woman should be
able to control her own body. (of
course to a certain extent- then
prostitution and drugs should be legal too
right??)
yes.
Quote:
tr>
we need to
remember that we are overpopulating the
planet. (big deal we just lost almost
200,000 people to a natural
disaster)
a fraction of the 40 mill
people that are added every year.
Quote:
tr>
why not take a
look at the baby hall of fame.
thank you, I am very
familiar with the "abortionfact" website.
It is a major source of lies and
misinformation. Pro-life at its most
typical.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 01-04-05 18:16pm
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
how is it biased. It
takes perspectives from both pro-lifers
and
pro-choicers!!!!
it lies about abortions,
about medical facts, about embryology and
so on for the purpose of speaking out
against abortion. It is very biased.
our mission is simple. We have brought
together quality information on the
abortion debate from many different
sources and made it available to the world
in one abortion megasite. we believe these
facts point to an obvious conclusion. You
are free to accept or reject this
conclusion. we simply ask that
whatever you do, do it on the basis of
fact.
We believe that this information is
valuable to all members of society no
matter which side of the abortion issue
they find themselves. We ask nothing
more than the opportunity to present
factual information on abortion in an
honest manner to thinking people.
It is also our purpose to promote the full
works of the individuals and groups who
have contributed information on abortion
to help make this site possible. To
them we owe not only its considerable
volume, but also the ultimate success of
this site.
________________________________________
and while you are at it, take a look at
the logo they use, a logo used throughout
the pro-life movement. Next time, try to
use a site that does not have an abortion
agenda of any kind, eh!
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xxxxxx
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Jan 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Doesn't matter
Posted: 01-04-05 18:50pm
bd1012
wrote:
even if this is true..So
what? The mother has all those things
and more yet you don't give a damn about
her! You silly prolifers.. Nothing
will ever trump the right to have an
abortion.. Fetal pain, development,
pas.. Nothing. None of it matters
really.. Those are just side issues.
One more thing.. Even if pas is true..
Why does it matter? Why do you worry so
much about woman who suffer grief and
complications from abortion but not
pregnancy? Oh that's right.. You only
care about what she goes through when it
suits you.. As for pain and development
of the fetus.. Yeah..The woman is fully
developed and has twice the capacities of
a fetus yet you don't care jack squat
about her and what about the pain the
woman feels while she is pregnant and
going through labor? She shoulnd't have
had sex if she didn't want to get
pregnant? Well if the fetus doesn't
want to be aborted.. Then it shouldn't
have invaded her
body.
"even if this is true...So what" you have
got to be kidding me..Right?
But then again it really does not suprise
me. Your mother shared her abortion
experience(s) with you and taught you that
this disgusting practice is alright.
Pathetic
our children are having these abortions
because they were not taught right from
wrong. Too many parents are to busy with
their own lives concentrating on their
career, drugs, partying etc.. To sit
their children down and talk with them
about sex.
Eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for
hand, foot for foot, burning for burning,
wound for wound, stripe for
stripe."—exodus 21:22-24.
I fear for these murderers in the next
life
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 01-04-05 19:03pm
[quote="xxxxxx"]"even if this is true...So
what" you have got to be kidding
me..Right?
But then again it really does not suprise
me. Your mother shared her abortion
experience(s) with you and taught you that
this disgusting practice is alright.
Pathetic[/qote]yadda, yadda. Another
ranting anti-choice fundie misogynist has
arrived.
Quote:
tr>
eye for eye,
tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for
foot, burning for burning, wound for
wound, stripe for stripe."—exodus
21:22-24.
actually, that is verses
24-25. At least know the bible when you
quote from it.
And when you quote the whole thing, I
actually is the only place in the bible
where we see a comparable worth of the
fetus:
22 "when men strive together, and hurt a
woman with child, so that there is a
miscarriage, and yet no harm follows, the
one who hurt her shall be fined, according
as the woman's husband shall lay upon him;
and he shall pay as the judges determine.
23 if any harm follows, then you shall
give life for life,
24 eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for
hand, foot for foot,
25 burn for burn, wound for wound, stripe
for stripe.
And funny enough, it shows the fetus as
property and the woman as a person. When
the fetus miscarried but the woman is not
harmed, then we are talking about a fine
for loss of property. If the womani s
harmed in the process as well, then the
punishment is that of a harm to a
person.
Thanks for bringing up that part of the
bible, where it is confirmed that god
doesn't value the fetus as much as the
woman. (even if you couldn't even get
the verses right).
Quote:
tr>
i fear for these
not a nice persons in the next
life
pascal's wager really is
a rather stupid argument to make here.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 01-04-05 21:12pm
jlee77
wrote:
Quote:
tr>
well if the fetus
doesn't want to be aborted.. Then it
shouldn't have invaded her
body."
the baby did not invade her body. He
didn't "break" through and force his way
in. He got there on part of the mother.
It's pretty simple
actually.
incorrect. The
blastocyst would indeed have passed right
through the uterus, had it not invaded the
uterine lining, destroying a lot of the
woman's tissue in the process
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 01-04-05 21:48pm
jlee77
wrote:
sad I have to explain
this......
Here, let me write it slowly:
n-o-t w-i-t-h-o-u-t t-h-e
m-o-t-h-e-r-s a-c-t-i-o-n-s--
can a baby enter a womb.
as a baby can't enter a
womb even with the motehr's help, your
claim is still stupid and false. Typing
slowly obviously didn't help you any.
Must be inherent stupidity in you then, I
guess.
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Lukitsme03
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 39
Abortion Is W.r.o.n.g Posted: 04-17-05 22:36pm
This was posted a long time ago but I just
have to say something about what someone
said (("well if the fetus doesn't want to
be aborted.. Then it shouldn't have
invaded her body")) I didnt go on reading
because I didnt want to hear any more sad
and evil statements like that one!! How
in the world could anyone even say that ..
I know!- if you are evil or have a
corrupt mind! Yes the mother may go
through a lot during pregnancy but hell if
she didnt want a baby use protection!!!!
It is soooooooooo not that babys fault
that the 'dummy' didnt use or make someone
use some type of protection or keep her
legs closed! "invaded" her body what the
hell kind of psychotic health question are
you?!! If something "invaded" her body
it's her fault. Maybe I should keep my
thoughts to myself which I usually do but
on this one that was just to hard to do.
I think you or anyone else with that type
of attitude should keep your thoughts and
comments to yourselves !!!
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-18-05 00:07am
Although I don't think the fetus 'invaded'
the womans body, I do think that since
that woman is going to be that childs life
support for 9 months, she shouldn't do it
if she doesn't want to. She wont take
care of her body, or her baby, and she'd
be depressed having to be forced to do
something she doesn't. Thats my say, the
end.
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