lil_blaze2004
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Please Stop....
Posted: 01-05-05 13:43pm
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Comparing cows/pigs to unborn babies
(sorry fetus') I don't know anyone who
will eat an aborted "fetus".
And excessive spending (cars, etc..) to
excessive abortions.
:) thank you...
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-05-05 13:47pm
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We will stop when you all stop telling us
what to do with our bodies.. Until then..
Deal with it.
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msrosie
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Re: Please Stop....
Posted: 01-05-05 13:47pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | comparing cows/pigs to
unborn babies (sorry fetus') I don't know
anyone who will eat an aborted "fetus".
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you are not a moderator here, so you don't
get to tell me what to do. When someone
makes an issue of the zef having a
"beating heart" it is perfectly valid to
point out that the cow in your freezer had
a beating heart, too.
Rosie
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-05-05 13:53pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | we will stop when you all
stop telling us what to do with our
bodies.. Until then.. Deal with
it. |
bd when have I ever told you what to do
with your body?????????? I would not
get an abortion. I don't give a flying
medical question if you do.
Ms. Rosie, go eat a zef...... You guys
sound completely ignorant when u compare
an unborn child (oops fetus) to a cow.
Imo
i'm ashamed you are canadian with your
nasty hoitytoity attitude!
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-05-05 13:57pm
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | we will stop when you all
stop telling us what to do with our
bodies.. Until then.. Deal with
it. |
bd when have I ever told you what to do
with your body?????????? I would not
get an abortion. I don't give a flying
medical question if you do.
Ms. Rosie, go eat a zef...... You
guys sound completely ignorant when u
compare an unborn child (oops fetus) to a
cow. Imo
i'm ashamed you are canadian with your
nasty hoitytoity
attitude! |
if you don't care so much.. Then why the
hell are you in here debating with us?
Also.. If the zef is so important.. Then
why aren't you out to "save" it like all
the others?
And btw.. You act like
zygote/embryo/fetus are terms we just made
up to "hide from the truth".. They are
accurate real medical terms.. There aint
nothing wrong with using them.. I thought
the "truth" was important to you. Yet you
seem to get upset when people use true
terms :roll:
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lil_blaze2004
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Re: Please Stop....
Posted: 01-05-05 13:57pm
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| msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | comparing cows/pigs to
unborn babies (sorry fetus') I don't know
anyone who will eat an aborted "fetus".
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you are not a moderator here, so you don't
get to tell me what to do. When someone
makes an issue of the zef having a
"beating heart" it is perfectly valid to
point out that the cow in your freezer had
a beating heart, too.
Rosie |
ok so it's ok when someone mur.Ders
someone else (i'm talking about a full
fledged child, teenager or adult) since
cows have beating hearts... Ok good to
know neighbour!
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-05-05 13:59pm
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No.. We aren't saying that at all.. We
are just saying that if you eat a
hamburger and then yell at people for
abortion because the zef has a beating
heart.. That makes you a hypocrite..
What we are trying to say is that if you
are so prolife.. Then why are you only
concerned about a fetus and not all life?
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-05-05 14:07pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | no.. We aren't saying that
at all.. We are just saying that if you
eat a hamburger and then yell at people
for abortion because the zef has a beating
heart.. That makes you a hypocrite..
What we are trying to say is that if you
are so prolife.. Then why are you only
concerned about a fetus and not all
life? |
i showed you yesterday why I lean more
towards pro-life than abortion. I don't
agree with all the pro-choice terminology.
Like i've said before I have friends
who've had abortions, family too and I
still love them all. I just find it sick
when people compare animals to humans, or
excessive car buying to excessive
abortions. And once again, I don't eat
meat bd, so stop saying that because I eat
a burger I am a hypocrite.
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tr> if you don't care
so much.. Then why the hell are you in
here debating with us? Also.. If the zef
is so important.. Then why aren't you out
to "save" it like all the others?
And btw.. You act like
zygote/embryo/fetus are terms we just made
up to "hide from the truth".. They are
accurate real medical terms.. There aint
nothing wrong with using them.. I thought
the "truth" was important to you. Yet you
seem to get upset when people use true
terms :roll: |
i don't care what you do, but maybe others
can learn. Isn't that what a forum is
for???? As for you using the terms zef,
fetus, whatever, I don't want to use that
term, my doc doesn't use that term (he
calls it the baby) so call it what you
want I put it in brackets so that I won't
get caca on for calling it a baby!
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-05-05 14:13pm
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Fine then.. Use what you want.. Just
don't try to pass it off as fact and act
like we are hiding behind false terms.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-05-05 14:21pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | fine then.. Use what you
want.. Just don't try to pass it off as
fact and act like we are hiding behind
false terms. |
once again darling bd. I never said you
were hiding behind false terms and I never
tried to pass callling my future baby: "my
baby" as a fact. To me the fetus in my
stomach is my child. And I will never
call it anything else. Next month when I
find out the sexe i'll be so happy to stop
calling it an it and will be even closer
to my child!
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-05-05 14:39pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | ok enough is enough. A
cow is not a human for pete's sake.
There is no comparison. You can talk it
about it and compare it day and night
until you die but a cow nor any animal
will ever compare to a child. I have a
puppy I adore but he will still never
compare to my baby nor will I have the
same love for him because he is my dog,
not my child. It's moronic to use the
"cow had a heartbeat" once in the freezer.
Plus...Since when does the term
"pro-life" include cows and such? It
doesn't last I checked. Just like
abortion is not referring to anything but
humans. And the comparison of spending
money on cars is even dumber than the cow.
Pick a new argument.
I'm sure lil' blaze is here to debate and
that's why when we see stupid remarks and
comparisons, we say something about it,
such as everyone else here. Isn't that
debating? Might not be super nice but
it would come out the way I want it
to!!Lol
now, could you please think of some other
"reasoning" for believing that killing
babies is ok?
Sheesh. |
see you always sound like you're
talking!!!-lol I have problems withforums
cause things come out the wrong way, and
if I was face to face with someone it
would come out .W.A.Y differently!!!
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steen
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Posted: 01-05-05 22:55pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | | ok enough is enough. A cow
is not a human for pete's sake. There is
no
comparison. |
really? No comparison?
Well, they both have a "beating heart,"
right? If you don't like the comparison,
perhaps you shouldn't make arguments that
fits both in the first place.
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tr> | it's moronic to
use the "cow had a heartbeat" once in the
freezer. |
just like it is moroning
to use the "fetus has a heartbeat" once it
is aborted.
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tr> | i'm sure lil'
blaze is here to
debate |
hmm, not like you who are
just here to lie, then.
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tr> | now, could you
please think of some other "reasoning" for
believing that killing babies is ok?
Sheesh. |
person troll fool, nobody
here have made any claim stating that it
is ok to kill babies.
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steen
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Posted: 01-05-05 23:18pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | "really? No comparison?
Well, they both have a "beating heart,"
right? If you don't like the
comparison, perhaps you shouldn't make
arguments that fits both in the first
place."
and so does a doing it snake
genious. |
certainly. Good
evidence that using the "beating heart"
argument is inanely stupid.
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tr> | what's your
point? A cow is still not
human. |
nobody claimed that,
person. The only claim is that when
there is such a big emphasis on the fetus
merely because it has a beating heart,
then everything with a beating heart ought
to have such attention, right?
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tr> | humans reign
over all species, what part don't you
understand? |
please provide evidence
that humans "reign" over *all* species.
I would love to see, f.Ex. How we reign
over the tubeworms at the deep sea
vents.
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tr> | any logical
person knows that eating a hamburger
doesn't compare to
abortion. |
but then, nobody made
that claim anyway, your usual lies to the
contrary.
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tr> | I can't believe
how stupid you are. Ignorant more
so. |
jlee, you really should
stop talking to the mirror.
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tr> | Quote: |
tr> | "person troll
fool, nobody here have made any claim
stating that it is ok to kill
babies." |
ummm...You
did. |
a flatout lie, as is
expected from you. Please provide
evidence for that lie, stupid fool.
Stinking pro-life liar indeed. You
really is a credit to pro-life. Great at
demonstrating how much you pro-life guys
lie.
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steen
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Posted: 01-05-05 23:40pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | | any logical person knows
that humans
reign. |
really? How do you
reign over the deep sea vent tube worms?
Oh, that's right. You don't. Any other
lies you want to spew? (that is a
rethorical question. Of course you hasve
more lies. You always have another lie,
troll).
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tr> "but then, nobody
made that claim anyway, your usual lies to
the contrary. "
hmmm....Where have you
been? |
nice example of how you
could not provide the actual proof for
your incesant lies. Keep on
demonstrating how much pro-lifers lie,
jlee. You are doing a good job at it.
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steen
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Posted: 01-06-05 18:58pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | | tube worms! Hahah
:roll: |
well, you claim to have
reign over the deep sea vent tubeworms,
right? Please provide proof.
Nah, of course not as that was just
another in your incessant stream of
continuous lies.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-06-05 19:12pm
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Cows are sacred in some countries, they
would kill a person before they would a
cow probably.
All ther best to ya!
Sandy
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 01-07-05 01:52am
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What the he*l does a hamburger have to do
with an aborted baby? That is just
disgusting....
Yeah sandy some people (hindus) do hold
cattle as supreme beings. Cattle have no
value here except what they can pull at
the market..And by keeping abortion legal
it shows that human life doesn't have much
value either and I think that is rather
pathetic. It's really sad that another
human life can be ended simply because you
want it to.
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msrosie
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Posted: 01-07-05 09:59am
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| mom2trevor
wrote: | | and by keeping abortion
legal it shows that human life doesn't
have much value either and I think that is
rather pathetic.
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if that were true, then it would be legal
to kill anyone for any reason.
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tr> | it's really sad
that another human life can be ended
simply because you want it
to. |
it's really sad that some think so little
of women they'd force us to gestate like
broodmares.
Rosie
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 01-07-05 11:47am
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How can someone value human life when they
feel they can end it when they feel like
it? That shows no value for human life
now doesn't it? Considering life begins
at conception or do you just now know that
either?
Forcing someone to gestate...Well funny
they aren't crying that when they are on
their backs getting pregnant right? It's
only when they realize they have
responsibility that they cower and run to
the closest abortion clinic. That
argument is just down right ignorant....
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bd1012
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Posted: 01-07-05 13:16pm
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Jlee.. What's your favorite hobby?
Btw hun.. I'd love to keep mine closed..
But I happen to have a bf who doesnt' want
to go without and no he won't pressure me
but I do feel guilty making him suffer and
yes.. Occasionally he does please himself
to take the focus off me. Btw..He's
prolife and christian.. And I asked him
last night about the "keep your legs
closed" argument.. He gave the right
answer.. Even he believes that is an
unrealistic expectation.. If he had said
that he agreed with the "keep your legs
closed" argument.. I would have smacked
him right across his face and you know
why..
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