Pre-seizure, /make Threats & Not Know Posted: 01-07-05 14:00pm
I know this is a bit long, but I have no
experience and am desperate for some
advice from somone who has had a
seizure.
I live with my boyfriend and he is
epileptic. He hadn't had many seizures
for while until christmas weekend. He
had been on call for work, getting very
little sleep and was playing video games
for hours at a time. He said a few times
during the weekend he was feeling
"seizurey" and just wanted to get it over
with. On sunday night he went out with
his friend to the bars, didn't drink much
and came home with him in an agitated
state. I just assumed they were riled up
from being out.
Sean (my bf) and i, my friend and sean's
friend all went into the kitchen and
started having a discussion about
politics. My friend and I had been
drinking quite a bit and watching movies,
sean's friend drank quite a bit as well
and came back with a $60 bar tab as
opposed to sean's $7. Our roomate came
home at that point and was not drinking at
all, so I use most of his account of the
situation as I was far from sober.
My roomate said sean started getting mad
and talking non-sensablly, and then I
remember his telling us all to get out of
the house seemingly out of no where.
There was no disagreement in the
discussion to warrant this. We walked to
the front of the house and sean's friend
started trying to calm him down. I
remember being in shock and just standing
there and sean coming at me yelling, his
friend getting in the way, and sean
punching him a lot. This is not normal
behavior for him.
The arguing went on for a while, sean went
upstairs and his friend waited for him to
come back down, he saw sean come down the
stairs with a shotgun we keep loaded for
protection and we all heard him yell "who
wants to die?" and his friend yells out
something about sean's having a gun as the
rest of us cant see him. I tell my
friend to leave and usher him out the
backdoor. I don't know it but after he
leaves and drives away he calls the
police.
Sean's friend is still trying to talk him
down and I wait in the kitchen, seemingly
everytime I approach sean he becomes irate
so I stay away. Our roomate realizes the
severity of the situation and leaves out
the backdoor also, after sean becomes
irate again. Our roomate said that at
the staircase, when he asked sean what he
was doing, he said he didn't know and
seemed very confused. He tried to get me
to leave to but I stubbornly stayed.
I am alone in the kitchen and sean and his
friend begin yelling in the front room
again. From his friends account, sean
kept pointing the loaded shotgun in his
face and he kept moving it away. I don't
remember much after that except sean
chasing me into the backyard and locking
the door behind me. After a few minutes
outside with no shoes on I begin pounding
on the door - sean's friend opens the door
and said the police were there. They
take him away and get video statements
from us about what happened. Our
roomate, the only sober person there, had
left and the remainder of us never thought
he had a seizure and were pretty shaken up
and told the story as it happened.
Sean spent a few days in jail and is out
on bond awaiting court. I am not
supposed to see him because it is a
domestic violence case, but after speaking
with him I decided to come home after
arranging to move. His account was
convincing, he was medicated when he got
out and very confused. He said he only
remembered little bits of what happened
and ended up having a seizure in the cop
car that night and then when they called
the ambulance he had a seizure there too.
He is being charged with felony menacing
in a domestic violence category, even
though I didn't press charges nor did
anyone else. I care about him very much
but also don't want to be a fool and have
this happen again. He didn't take
medication before but said he will now.
He takes full responsibility and has
remorse but he really dosent know what
happened.
Finally my question, is this really a
seizure? I can't find anything online
that describes pre-seizure activity. His
doctor said it might be aiws (alice in
wonderland syndrome) but the description
of that dosent seem consistent with his
actions, plus it mainly happens to people
who suffer from migrains.
Thank you.
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sami_1982
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Joined: 13 Dec 2003 Posts: 200 Location: Australia
Hello Posted: 01-09-05 00:30am
I have temporal lobe epilepsy and I am on
heavy medication. I lived with my ex
girlfriend and my girlfriend came to vist
and my ex's girlfriend also came to stay,
we all went out one night n we were out
late, I decided because it was a nice
dinner with nice music n everything that I
would have 2 beers and a midori and lime
alcoholic drink.
Shortly after I felt strange sleepy like,
I remember that then when we got home, I
started going off everyne says I was being
normal then I was dribbling caca, like
saying everyone was a this and a that all
the sware words in the world were comming
out of my mouth and I was getting verry
angry.
I ended up having 3 seizures and being
sick and being kicked out of my house
later on. I was totally mean. But I cant
remember much at all, the other ppl didnt
realise and neither did I that when
drinking alcohol it does something to
epileptics on medication it makes them
either get toxic from an overdose of
medication or even if not on medication I
would hate to see what could have
happened, this wasnt the first time that I
had done something like this either.
Anither time I had scratched myself to
peices and then wondered how I ripped my
shirt off n really had a psychotic
episode, I thought that I was going mad,
when I was good I was good but when I
would have one of those episodes I never
knew what was going on, all I know is I
felt very paranoid at those times and very
small, like my body was tiny and my hands
and feet were huge and I was trying to
protect myself, and everything that anyone
said to me was scaring me, the more that
they tried to help me the scareder I got
because I wasnt incontroll.
Epilepsy is a very complex thing and it is
very hard, but I would believe your
boyfriend as similar things have happened
to me, I no longer drink I cant handle
even half a beer. Glasses of wine are the
worst.
I hope that everything works out fine with
you and your b/f and he really needs you
most at this time in his life and I bet he
can only say sorry to you so much and not
know why he is saying sorry and it
probbaly frustrates the hell out of you
and I know its hard for you to be a
partner to a person whom has seizures,
and that is what all the ppl that saw me
go through that night no matter what they
said it was like someone else took over me
like in a scarey movie they said it was
like a different personality.
Since I have seen psychologists and has
evaluations and I am on new medication
keppra and epilim and I am so far so good,
I still feel strange at times and I still
have seizures but I dont go round hurting
ppl.
When I found out that I did all that I was
so upset.
It really makes us ask why me.
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happiness
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Joined: 05 Feb 2005 Posts: 21 Location: America
Posted: 02-05-05 15:12pm
Yes its very much possible to have this
happen during or before or
after a seizure. There is something
called a rage seizure, I don't
remember exactly which kind it is. Also
read up on complex partial
seizures. It would constitute the fact
he remembers nothing,
but the alcohol does that for him too. I
would continue working
through this, and I personally would
suggest you make sure he
isn't driving. If at all possible,
reason if this kind of rage started
in a car, it would be considered road
rage.
You can go to www.Epilepsyfoundationofam
erica.Org gosh I
don't know the exact, but go to the answer
place and read upon
it. Also go to the ecommunities there
and read and post to
others. You will find lots of support.
Happiness
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kayakmom
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Posted: 02-06-05 07:47am
Www.Epilepsy.Com is
also another great place to learn about
seizures and how they can affect you....
Hoping you can figure it all out.
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bandit
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Joined: 07 Jan 2005 Posts: 2 Location: Denver
Posted: 03-17-05 18:01pm
Thanks for all your relipes. I am now
100% sure his actions were caused by
seizures, as opposed to about 95% sure
before.
I thought the worst was over, but they are
charging him with 3 counts of felony
menacing with a deadly weapon - one for
me, my friend and my roommate. We have
all petitioned the da to drop the case but
he will not. My poor boyfriend is looking
at a minimum of 9-25 years if he is
convicted, and it does not look good. I
am so shocked I do not know what to do,
they wont even acknowledge that he is
epileptic and treat him like a common
criminal.
Of course my video statement they had me
do that night didn't help, because I
didn't realize his actions were because of
a seizure and he even said he didn't have
a seizure while it was happening he was so
out of it. I have tried to contact many
epilepsy advocay groups, and no one will
help because of the gun involved. If
anyone is reading this and knows of
anything I can do or anyone who could help
please let me know. If I could get a
well-known organization to petition the da
for violations of the americans with
disabilities act.... That might work.
It is so strange to see him everyday
knowing that in a few months I will
probably never see him again and there is
nothing either of us can do about it. I
feel like someone is about to die, and all
because I didn't realize he was having a
seizure. It is infuriating.
They have him on dilantin now, as he was
not on anything before. He is like a
zombie on it and the side effects are like
that of being a heavy drinker. Any
suggestions on good alternatives would be
appreciated also.
Thank you for your support during this
hard time....
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kayakmom
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Posted: 03-17-05 18:08pm
Try contacting the epilepsy foundation of
america. They might be able to help.
I am so sorry!!
My son often would deny he was having a
seizure at the time, as well. He would
say later he did not know why he said he
was not....He knew it was but was like he
could not tell me.....
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roberto
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004 Posts: 6 Location: Slovenia
Please Read This! Posted: 03-22-05 15:00pm
I just read a little of your meassage, or
should I say pledge for help!
When I was reading it was as if you were
talking about me!!!
Firstly what causes my seizures. The
initial cause of my epilepsy is from an
accident, but my seizures only started a
year and a half later. My first seizure
was when I went out for a couple of drinks
(i didn't drink much, occasionally).
What bothers me: alchohol is at the top of
the list. I also spend a lot of time on
the computer and realized that if I have
my monitor on in a dark room, it's not
good. The same goes for tv, but with tv
it's not so bad.
Now that I stoped drinking alcholhol,
being in a stuffy room is at the top of
the list. Being out in a heavy hot sunny
day!
What helps me: dairy products (milk,
yogurt, ...), being outside at least an
hour a day, regular diet, ... And
basically living a healthy life!
In conclusion, the issue about him accting
'wierd'. I also act wierd, especially
after attacks. Sometimes I would also act
wierd or say wierd things before attacks
but not always!
I hope this woulf be of some comfort and
help to you!
I would be very greatful if you could send
me a mail, even if you simply say "got
your message". It's always good to know
that someone's read my words. Good luck,