Dealing With Aging Parents Posted: 01-10-05 15:59pm
What I am going thru doesn't have a topic
here--but deserves one.
My 84 yr old father has just had his
drivers license revoked. (we, the
children did it) and we now have to deal
with my dad who is in some stage of
dementia, and my mother who is in complete
denial.
I think a forum (for advise or support)
would be a great idea.
Lots of us baby boomers out there who are
in this kind (or some kind) of
situation.
Thanks,
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JoeandCarole
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Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Somers, NY
Aging Parents Posted: 01-23-06 09:30am
Hi, andrea, your post struck a chord with
us. We are both mental health
professionals (clinical psychologist and
clinical social worker) and the authors of
the book are your parents driving you
crazy?. We've both been caregivers for
aging parents: one of us takes care of a
mother who is 97 as we write this. Our
book, now in its second edition and
available through amazon, can be of help
to you and othrs in your position. We
agree with you that a forum on this topic
is warranted, and we'd be happy to serve
as sources of help and guidance to people
who post questions and who need help
solving problems. Along with us, we
know that other "adult children" can offer
real help and useful guidance as well.
We'll check in every so often and see
whether we can be of help to anyone.
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Morning_Glory
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Joined: 10 Mar 2006 Posts: 207 Location: NE Ohio
Posted: 03-14-06 15:06pm
I second this idea!!! I am a caregiver in
the home care industry and deal with
elderly and handicapped clients on a daily
basis. I love my job but it would be soo
nice to have a forum where people that
care for elderly, wether it be a family
member or a home care worker, can come on
and share experiences, ask questions, and
get support.
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 03-14-06 15:41pm
It is always difficult to do something
like this but you know you have made the
correct decision especially with medical
situations even though they have driven
for years and years it is difficult on
their behalf and believe me I am not
trying to make you feel guilty or anything
as I do understand as my .Dad had
alzheimer's and he was in denial and the
only way we could grt him to quit driving
is to hide his keys, even though he had
been in an accident shortly before but
thank goodness he did not hurt anyone or
himself he was always a john wayne in my
eyes, 6ft 2 in, eyes of blue and when he
past on he was not even 100lbs. It is
sooo scary this day and age! You always
think of grandma baking cookies and going
on picnics and going to grandmas and
grandpas house we always did something
with them, you just wonder what on earth
is going on. Just to think that we could
be on the negative side of this is scary
but they say they live in their own little
world and they are content, so I must try
to believe that, even though it is hard
for me to believe because my dad became
abusive at times and he was the type that
would never hurt a flea, but I have to
keep telling myself, it was the diease and
not him!
My thoughts are with you and yours! Your
idea is great!
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tony3595
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Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 68 Location: IL
Aging Parents Posted: 04-06-06 11:53am
This is the type of forum I have been
searching for. For some reason, there is
not enough help out there for the aging
people in this world. Thanks to people
like joeand carol, they took the time to
appraoch the subject with experience and
knowledge.
Everyone thinks their situation is
different and need individual attention.
Well, they are right. No one person's
problem is the same, but there are similar
situations from others, if combined, that
can help in some way. This is why I think
an aging forum is needed.
With the population of older people
(myself included) growing everyday, this
is going to become an epidemic for
information of which there is very little.
My situation is one of caring for me
mother who is 84 years old with early
alzheimers. She also is in complete
denial, but I tok away her keys and
drivers license last fall. My father
passed away from lung cancer just last
month. His only concern before he died
was that mother was taken care of. They
had been married for 63 years and never
once were they apart. This is another
story which could be made into a romance
novel.
My mother is very self sufficient. She
doesn't need constant supervision, but
should not be left alone for too long.
Not only is she still greiving the loss of
her life partner, but also dealing with
her dimentia at the same time. Immediate
move would be harder on her.
My sister and I have been looking into
assisted living facilities, but mom
doesn't want to leave her home. "this is
where your father and I lived, and this is
where I want to stay. I can take care of
myself."
i need to make sure she takes her
medications on time, her pill box is set
with the right pills, remind her what day
it is, turn off the stove when she gets
distracted with other things around the
house, etc. Nothing truly life
threatening, but still watching over her.
I live on the east coast but am currently
semi-retired at 58. I am here in the
midwest taking care of mom while my wife
in back home running the show (she is a
saint). This is something that we both
agreed would be best at this point. My
sister is not of too much help because she
is too busy with her business.
Does anyone have any thoughts?
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Melissa_20
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Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 04-06-06 13:44pm
I agree that this would be a great
topic.My nana has lived with me for almost
20 years of my life and I have seen her go
through the worst.She just got rushed to
the hospital last week for her lungs
collapsing.It was found that there was
carbon in her lungs but the only way to
get it out was to put a tube down her
throat while she was under anestesia(can't
spell it right) but she would not be
strong enough to come out of it.Now the
carbon dioxide had traveled to her brain
through air and she does not really make
sense anymore.She makes things up and
sometime acts like she is back in time in
her 20's or 30's.It would be nice to have
a forum for these type of things : )
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tony3595
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 68 Location: IL
Posted: 04-06-06 15:30pm
I am so sorry to read about your nana. I
can relate in a very minor way to her
living a past life. This is becoming more
and more prevalent with my mom. She has
made stories up about her sister which has
become an obscesion with her. No matter
how hard we try to convince them
otherwise, it does no use.
My thoughts are with you.
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Melissa_20
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Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 04-07-06 06:57am
Thank you tony,she said something like
"where are my babies,why are they
crying?Go check on them!" I just went
along with her story and told her they
were getting baths and babies hate getting
bathes" she looked dead at me and said
"well you better make sure they don't cry
like that again!" it kinda freaked me out
a lot!
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tony3595
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2006 Posts: 68 Location: IL
Posted: 04-09-06 10:39am
I thank the dear lord for our faith and
trust in him to give us what we need when
we need it. Since my father passed away
last month, my mom's memory comes and
goes. She has not reached the point of
total immagination straying. She still
has touch with reality, but definitely in
denial on her need for supervision on a
regular basis.
Her sister, my aunt, is now reaching that
point and is driving my cousin (her 24
hour caregiver) crazy. When we visit
them, mom sees the devistating effect of
this horrible desease. She says, I will
never get that way, but I keep saying that
she will, but she will not know it when it
happens.
When you see the ones you love slowly
deteriorate in front of your eyes, I begin
to wonder who has it worse. It is worth
this forum to continue to at least help
one another with coping our own sanity,
and assist those we are helping ease into
their next stage as comfortably as
possible.
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Posted: 02-19-08 09:17am
I was looking for a forum similar to this
and was going to suggest it. I figured I'd
search to see if was already mentioned.
This would be a wonderful forum as I am
helping my aging grandmother not to
mention I already have a full plate with
all my stuff.
Just to have others to talk to would be
awesome and see how they cope.
It is so sad to see what becomes of life.
These dear people took care of us and and
to see them decline like this......it's
very tough...I am thankful to be able to
help her but it's not like it use to be
due to my own declining health.
Anyway this would be a great forum!!
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admin
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Posted: 02-20-08 05:37am
Aging issues is definitely a great forum
suggestion. Thank you for bringing this
up!
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Posted: 02-20-08 09:42am
I would really love to see this forum, I
get to the point of nuttiness at times
looking for someone to talk to.
Thanks
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Posted: 02-25-08 11:20am
Yes ... caregivers DO give sooo much! I'm
on it.
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Posted: 02-25-08 14:31pm
Thank You so much, today is one of those
days that forum would help.
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Posted: 02-25-08 15:08pm
Yes, I think some of us need an outlet for
our frustration, our fears, our grief and
our sense of loss - feelings we all have
to deal with when our elderly relatives
begin the road to decline. I feel sad as
I watch the life recede from my parents'
bodies, the spirit die in their eyes. I
know there is nothing I or anyone else can
do to hold back time.
And it is not just the elderly - some of
us are caring for terminally ill partners
and children, some are trying
single-handedly to maintain a quality life
for disabled relatives. I have read posts
on here from people who are struggling to
understand and to care for their mentally
ill siblings. You can sense their guilt
and shame that they can't do everything,
can't be everything - in short, they feel
they can't cope.
We need a forum where we can express some
of these feelings, where it is okay to
feel angry, resentful and confused.
Caregivers can cope, and do cope - but
sometimes they just need a bit of care
themselves.
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Posted: 02-25-08 16:51pm
Hi shonster
You are so right with your post. It is
very difficult to see our loved ones
decline.
I know with me when I'm having an "off
day" with my grandmother I get mad at
myself because she is having one of those
days, it's very tough watching this
happen.
I know at times my children and husband
feel my frustration (I am sick a
lot...another story)..and I ask how fair
is it for them to deal with all this
also?
There are other people in the family but
they don't bother to help at all, it is
very sad.
We try to make the most of our time with
her and the most of the time with each
other. We never know what tomorrow will
bring. I learned that when I lost my
grandpa.
Sorry I went on and on here and it's not
the board for it.
Thanks for letting me get this out.
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Galaxy
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Posted: 02-25-08 17:12pm
butterfly6169
wrote:
Hi shonster
Sorry I went on and on here and it's not
the board for it.
Thanks for letting me get this
out.
That's why we need a caregivers' forum -
admin please note!
Thanks for posting that, butterfly. You
are very brave to take on an elderly
grandmother when you have your own health
issues. It's family - what can you do?
But I feel we need more support for carers
at every level.
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Posted: 02-25-08 19:53pm
Thanks
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jean5450
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Aging Parent woes Posted: 02-26-08 17:37pm
My 90 yr-old mom fell and broke her leg in
January. She cannot put any weight on it
until mid-March. She's hoping to go back
to living at home, but my two sisters,
brother and I, the closest of whom lives
3hrs away, all agree she should make the
move to assisted living now, when she's
done with rehab. Or, perhaps an apartment
if she has a smooth recovery. She also
has early stage dementia that has
definitely worsened in the last year since
my dad died, and we don't think she should
be living alone--the mind needs some
stimulation. Eight years ago we tried to
get my parents to move close to us, but
they wouldn't.
My siblings and I are taking turns
visiting her in the nursing home as she
goes through rehab, but none of us can go
and live with her permanently. Two of us
are in VA, one in OH and one in IL; she's
in WI. She could move closer to one of
us, but we're afraid the unfamiliarity
will speed up the dementia process. Our
spouses aren't happy about us always
leaving them, either, although all of them
are understanding. Sadly, my mom has
quite a strong personality, and I don't
think any of us could live in the same
household with her--our spouses are not
quite THAT understanding.
Now my brother asked if we all want to
chip in to buy a bigger bed for my mom's
house so that he and his wife can sleep
comfortably, while all the rest of us are
satisfied with the existing double bed, or
the floor. We've always gotten along
well, but these little disagreements might
turn into something bigger. Fortunately,
except for her modest house, she has few
assets, so none of us will ever be arguing
over that.
I'd like to say, that if she can manage
the ADLs okay, she could go back home, but
we all still believe she needs to be
around other people. It's so hard to know
what to do. I was always slow in making
decisions --overanalytical--and this whole
question about what to do about Mom is
overwhelming.
If anyone has any suggestions, I'll gladly
listen.
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Posted: 02-27-08 11:27am
Does your mom have a will stating power of
attorney or appointment of health care
representative?
This is important to have. It took a near
tragedy to get my mom to have all this
drawn up. I had it done way before her due
to my health problems I want to make sure
when I'm gone in a state of not being able
to make decisions for myself that I have a
mature trusted loved one to take oversee
my needs.
Your brother should not be asking for
everyone to chip in to buy a bigger bed so
he can sleep more comfortably with his his
spouse.
Can you get some help in there for your
mom from an agency that helps the elderly?
There are some wonderful programs to aide
the elderly and it helps the family a lot
also.
Feel free to pm me if you'd like..I'm
going through a lot with my grandmother
and others not helping at all. I'm not
trying to sound selfish but there comes a
point when others should stop being jerks
and step up to plate and help out. Your
siblings are helping but it sounds like it
can get a little on the rough side.