Re: Rosie
Posted: 01-20-05 08:13am
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| steen
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: | heres a link
rosie........... Enjoy.
Http://www.Drhern.Co
m/medicalprocedures.Asp |
ah, yes. And on that site:
"patients coming in for very late abortion
- over 26 menstrual weeks' gestation - are
almost always seeking services for
termination of a desired pregnancy that
has developed serious complications.
This usually means the discovery of a
catastrophic fetal anomaly or genetic
disorder that guarantees death, suffering,
or serious disability for the baby that
would be delivered if the pregnancy were
to continue to term."
that and they talk about intact fetuses
and whatnot. So they talk about rare
3rd trimester abortions after catastropic
pregnancies through induction.
So?
the key word her steen is almost now if
third trimester terminations were not done
electivly then surely it would say always
not almost always?
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-20-05 10:18am
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| msrosie
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helllooooo???? That leads to the link I
already discussed, Dr. Tiller's site -
which does *not* do *elective* third
trimester abortions.
Care to try again?
Rosie |
hellllllloooooooo????? I know that was
the link you discussed and if you had gone
to each one you would see.... Go to http://www.Abortion.Com/a
bortion_clinics_late_term.Php then
click on any of the clinic links.
I like this one....http://www.Drtiller.Com/e
lect.Html
late abortion care
elective
abortion counseling & consultation |
procedure
at women's health care services, we
specialize in "late" abortion care. We
are able to perform elective abortions to
the time in the pregnancy when the fetus
is viable. Viability is not a set point
in time. Viability is determined by the
attending physician and is based on
sonogram results, physical examination and
last menstrual period date (if known).
Our telephone counselors will ask you a
number of medical questions to determine
if you are eligible for an elective
abortion. If you have visited another
clinic or physician, we will ask for the
results from a recent ultrasound.
Kansas law allows for post-viability
abortion procedures when continuing the
pregnancy is detrimental to the pregnant
woman's health. Each person's
circumstances are reviewed on a
case-by-base basis. Please call so that
we can discuss admission criteria with
you.
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Re: Rosie
Posted: 01-20-05 20:57pm
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| fishx
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the key word her steen is almost now if
third trimester terminations were not done
electivly then surely it would say always
not almost
always? |
it went on to say "occasionally a woman
presents at this stage for pregnancy
termination because of her own severe
medical illness or a psychiatric
indication. (see "a special note about
fetal anomaly")" after discussing fetal
anomally, which leads one to believe these
are the rest of the third tri abortions
they do. Nothing in there mentions doing
them electively.
Rosie
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Posted: 01-20-05 20:58pm
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| lil_blaze2004
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kansas law allows for post-viability
abortion procedures when continuing the
pregnancy is detrimental to the pregnant
woman's health. Each person's
circumstances are reviewed on a
case-by-base basis. Please call so that
we can discuss admission criteria with
you. |
that is hardly *elective*
rosie
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Posted: 01-21-05 03:13am
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| msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: |
kansas law allows for post-viability
abortion procedures when continuing the
pregnancy is detrimental to the pregnant
woman's health. Each person's
circumstances are reviewed on a
case-by-base basis. Please call so that
we can discuss admission criteria with
you. |
that is hardly *elective*
rosie |
then in cases where it,s the mothers
health it,s obviouse she wants the
pregnancy to continue otherwise she
would,nt be in the third trimester is,nt a
c-section a better option and it is only a
15 minute procedure.
( please note this is only an oppinion)
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 01-21-05 09:17am
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| msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
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kansas law allows for post-viability
abortion procedures when continuing the
pregnancy is detrimental to the pregnant
woman's health. Each person's
circumstances are reviewed on a
case-by-base basis. Please call so that
we can discuss admission criteria with
you. |
that is hardly *elective*
rosie |
well it said elective at the top of the
site.
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Posted: 01-21-05 09:38am
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| fishx
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then in cases where it,s the mothers
health it,s obviouse she wants the
pregnancy to continue otherwise she
would,nt be in the third trimester is,nt a
c-section a better option and it is only a
15 minute procedure.
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a csection is major invasive surgery and
has it's own risks, I think it should be
up to the doctor to decide which procedure
is best for the individual case.
Rosie
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Posted: 01-21-05 09:39am
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| lil_blaze2004
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well it said elective at the top of the
site. |
and your point is.....?
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:06am
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| msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
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well it said elective at the top of the
site. |
and your point
is.....? |
i'm just telling you what the doing it
site said. Christ, you are one touchy
bloody woman..... What is the cold
affecting your arthritis or do you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed
.E.V.E.R.Y day???
I've had enough with trying to be nice to
the a$$' on this site. Enough woth the
attitude. medical question!!
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:16am
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| msrosie
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: |
then in cases where it,s the mothers
health it,s obviouse she wants the
pregnancy to continue otherwise she
would,nt be in the third trimester is,nt a
c-section a better option and it is only a
15 minute procedure.
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a csection is major invasive surgery and
has it's own risks, I think it should be
up to the doctor to decide which procedure
is best for the individual case.
Rosie |
so your saying that it should be the
doctors choice then not the womans.
Have you ever had a csection rosie ?I have
had two and they really are,nt as invasive
as people make out I was actualy out
shopping 4 days after both of mine.
( please note this is only an oppinion)
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:29am
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
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well it said elective at the top of the
site. |
and your point
is.....? |
i'm just telling you what the doing it
site said. Christ, you are one touchy
bloody woman..... What is the cold
affecting your arthritis or do you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed
.E.V.E.R.Y day???
I've had enough with trying to be nice to
the a$$' on this site. Enough woth the
attitude. medical
question!! |
seems to me *you* are the touchy one. I
just asked a question ::shrug::
rosie
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:32am
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| msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | | msrosie
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: |
well it said elective at the top of the
site. |
and your point
is.....? |
i'm just telling you what the doing it
site said. Christ, you are one touchy
bloody woman..... What is the cold
affecting your arthritis or do you just
get up on the wrong side of the bed
.E.V.E.R.Y day???
I've had enough with trying to be nice to
the a$$' on this site. Enough woth the
attitude. medical
question!! |
seems to me *you* are the touchy one. I
just asked a question ::shrug::
rosie |
i have a reason to be touchy. It's
bloody cold out. I'm 5 months preggers
and my jacket won't zip up properly and my
hormones are out of wack so yes I am
touchy. :)
it's the way you put your questions.
Like i'm stupid or something.
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:32am
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[quote="fishx"]
so your saying that it should be the
doctors choice then not the
womans.[/qutoe]
both, in consultation with each other.
Doctors do have the right to refuse to
perform surgery if they think it
inappropriate. Case in point - when I had
horrendous abnormal bleeding, I wanted a
hysterectomy to correct it, my gyn
wouldn't do one because he felt the risks
of major surgery were too much given my
diabetes and insisted on an endometrial
ablation, which is not major surgery. I
had to settle for the ablation.
| Quote: | | have you ever had
a csection rosie ?I have had two and they
really are,nt as invasive as people make
out I was actualy out shopping 4 days
after both of
mine. |
a csection *is* considered majory
surgery.
Rosie
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:37am
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[quote="msrosie"] | fishx
wrote: |
so your saying that it should be the
doctors choice then not the
womans.[/qutoe]
both, in consultation with each other.
Doctors do have the right to refuse to
perform surgery if they think it
inappropriate. Case in point - when I
had horrendous abnormal bleeding, I wanted
a hysterectomy to correct it, my gyn
wouldn't do one because he felt the risks
of major surgery were too much given my
diabetes and insisted on an endometrial
ablation, which is not major surgery. I
had to settle for the ablation.
| Quote: | | have you ever had
a csection rosie ?I have had two and they
really are,nt as invasive as people make
out I was actualy out shopping 4 days
after both of
mine. |
a csection *is* considered majory
surgery.
Rosie |
rosie I am so sorry your doctor refused
you your choice of surgery did you seek a
second oppinion?
I have no doubt that a c-section is
classed as major surgery but then again
anything using general anashetic is major
and dangerous but I still stick by ny
oppinion that a c-section is not as
invasive or no more invasive than a third
trimester termination against the mothers
wishes.
Please note this is only an oppinion.
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:44am
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[quote="msrosie"] | fishx
wrote: |
so your saying that it should be the
doctors choice then not the
womans.[/qutoe]
both, in consultation with each other.
Doctors do have the right to refuse to
perform surgery if they think it
inappropriate. Case in point - when I
had horrendous abnormal bleeding, I wanted
a hysterectomy to correct it, my gyn
wouldn't do one because he felt the risks
of major surgery were too much given my
diabetes and insisted on an endometrial
ablation, which is not major surgery. I
had to settle for the ablation.
| Quote: | | have you ever had
a csection rosie ?I have had two and they
really are,nt as invasive as people make
out I was actualy out shopping 4 days
after both of
mine. |
a csection *is* considered majory
surgery.
Rosie |
my mother too had abnormal periods and
wanted a hysterectomy. She has diabetes
and von willebrans (a bleeding disorder)
but she got her hysterectomy. Yes it
caused hemmoraging and she was in the hosp
for almost 1 month.
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:48am
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[quote="lil_blaze2004"] | msrosie
wrote: | | fishx
wrote: |
so your saying that it should be the
doctors choice then not the
womans.[/qutoe]
both, in consultation with each other.
Doctors do have the right to refuse to
perform surgery if they think it
inappropriate. Case in point - when I
had horrendous abnormal bleeding, I wanted
a hysterectomy to correct it, my gyn
wouldn't do one because he felt the risks
of major surgery were too much given my
diabetes and insisted on an endometrial
ablation, which is not major surgery.
I had to settle for the ablation.
| Quote: | | have you ever had
a csection rosie ?I have had two and they
really are,nt as invasive as people make
out I was actualy out shopping 4 days
after both of
mine. |
a csection *is* considered majory
surgery.
Rosie |
my mother too had abnormal periods and
wanted a hysterectomy. She has
diabetes and von willebrans (a bleeding
disorder) but she got her hysterectomy.
Yes it caused hemmoraging and she was in
the hosp for almost 1
month. |
sorry to hear that lil I do hope she,s ok
now though.
Hows lillun today ok I hope.
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:53am
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Ya my mom's fine now--this was years ago
---12,13 ?????
Bebe's good today. My belly is getting
.B.I.G!!!!!!! Lol
hope your lil football team is good
today--lol
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:55am
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| lil_blaze2004
wrote: | ya my mom's fine now--this
was years ago ---12,13 ?????
Bebe's good today. My belly is getting
.B.I.G!!!!!!! Lol
hope your lil football team is good
today--lol |
hehehe my little football team are great
today because iv packed them of to grannys
for the weekend yipeeeeee I can have a lie
in tommorow lol.
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Posted: 01-21-05 10:56am
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| fishx
wrote: | | lil_blaze2004
wrote: | ya my mom's fine now--this
was years ago ---12,13 ?????
Bebe's good today. My belly is getting
.B.I.G!!!!!!! Lol
hope your lil football team is good
today--lol |
hehehe my little football team are great
today because iv packed them of to grannys
for the weekend yipeeeeee I can have a lie
in tommorow
lol. |
jammy sod lol
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