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FISHX

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Posted: 01-21-05 10:58am

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lil_blaze2004 wrote:

ya my mom's fine now--this was years ago ---12,13 ?????

Bebe's good today. My belly is getting .B.I.G!!!!!!! Lol

hope your lil football team is good today--lol

hehehe my little football team are great today because iv packed them of to grannys for the weekend yipeeeeee I can have a lie in tommorow lol.

jammy sod lol

more jam tham hartleys me great init?

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Posted: 01-21-05 11:02am

fishx wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

ya my mom's fine now--this was years ago ---12,13 ?????

Bebe's good today. My belly is getting .B.I.G!!!!!!! Lol

hope your lil football team is good today--lol

hehehe my little football team are great today because iv packed them of to grannys for the weekend yipeeeeee I can have a lie in tommorow lol.

yay!!!!!!!! 4 u!!!!!! Lol

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Posted: 01-21-05 16:23pm

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i have a reason to be touchy. It's bloody cold out. I'm 5 months preggers and my jacket won't zip up properly and my hormones are out of wack so yes I am touchy. :)

you think it's not cold here? It was -38 windchill when I got up this morning. Right now it's -20 out, that's the warmest it will get and I don't have adequate heating. Yet i'm not being rude with you. Oh, and the pregnancy well that was your choice, wasn't it? :)

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it's the way you put your questions. Like i'm stupid or something.

i'm not touching this one, since I vowed to myself to be nice, no matter what chit was thrown my way. *g*

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Re: Rosie
Posted: 01-21-05 16:26pm

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http://www.Drhern.Com/medica lprocedures.Asp

i just phoned this clinic and was told they do *not* do elective abortion past 26 weeks. In order to get a third trimester abortion, you have to have *documented* medical problems with the pregnancy or documented fetal deformity.

Rosie

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Posted: 01-21-05 16:29pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

my mother too had abnormal periods and wanted a hysterectomy. She has diabetes and von willebrans (a bleeding disorder) but she got her hysterectomy. Yes it caused hemmoraging and she was in the hosp for almost 1 month.

she obviously didn't have the same doctor I had. My point was that a doctor *can* and will refuse to perform a procedure if s/he thinks it's not in the best interest of the patient, even if the patient wants it. I would never advocate a doctor be forced to perform an elective abortion, even tho I feel it's something I feel is a woman's right.

Rosie

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Posted: 01-21-05 23:36pm

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i have no doubt that a c-section is classed as major surgery but then again anything using general anashetic is major and dangerous

actually, that is not the criteria for surgery to be "major."

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but I still stick by ny oppinion that a c-section is not as invasive or no more invasive than a third trimester termination against the mothers wishes.

and who is talking about an abortion against her wishes? That would be assault. Your claim doesn't make sense.

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Posted: 01-22-05 05:52am

steen wrote:

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i have no doubt that a c-section is classed as major surgery but then again anything using general anashetic is major and dangerous

actually, that is not the criteria for surgery to be "major."

i am sorry steen but why should we belive that a procedure that can be done under local anashetic reaches the criteria to be major surgery but procedures done under general do,nt .

Like to explain please?

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but I still stick by ny oppinion that a c-section is not as invasive or no more invasive than a third trimester termination against the mothers wishes.

and who is talking about an abortion against her wishes? That would be assault. Your claim doesn't make sense.

if the woman is in her third trimester it is quiet obviouse to any sane person that she intends to carry the pregnancy full term therfore the termination was against her whishes (she wanted the resulting child).

And if you would bother to read the post completly instead of getting a hard on as soon as you think you spotted something to rant about you would notice I did state that these were only opinions.

Please note this is only an opinion.

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Posted: 01-22-05 10:04am

fishx wrote:

i am sorry steen but why should we belive that a procedure that can be done under local anashetic reaches the criteria to be major surgery but procedures done under general do,nt .

Like to explain please?

you need to fix how you use the quotes.

Anyway, "major" surgery involves the opening of the abdomen or the chest.

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but I still stick by ny oppinion that a c-section is not as invasive or no more invasive than a third trimester termination against the mothers wishes.

and who is talking about an abortion against her wishes? That would be assault. Your claim doesn't make sense.

if the woman is in her third trimester it is quiet obviouse to any sane person that she intends to carry the pregnancy full term therfore the termination was against her whishes (she wanted the resulting child).[/quote]nope. She might not wish that the abortion was necessary, but the procedure itself can not legally be performed against her wish. Unless she wish the procedure (even if she doesn't want to have to need it to begin with), she can not be legally forced to undergo the procedure.

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and if you would bother to read the post completly instead of getting a hard on as soon as you think you spotted something to rant about you would notice I did state that these were only opinions.

and I never said that it wasn't, so why bring up that moronic point? Are you now saying that nobody are allowed to disagree with your opinion?

Sheesh, prolifers get more and more lame every day.

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Posted: 01-22-05 10:26am


Warning, post above is troll yapping.

FISHX

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Posted: 01-22-05 10:46am

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warning, post above is troll yapping.

steen you arogant little health questions you need to learn to type in english d.I.C.K. Head the line is so your saying that nobody is not nobody are you messing around freak yes people are allowed to have diffrent opinions but then again people are usualy human not walking blood clots now have sex off as I have stated before some village is missing its fool.

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Posted: 01-22-05 12:13pm

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...Now that was not too nice now was it. For you to incinuate that lil blaze is "stupid" is amusing coming from you, you person. And forget asking me to post that quote, it was very much so incinuated by your rudeness you posted above, anyone here can clearly see that. Intelligence certainly is not your virtue.

can you not take a doing it joke??? What do you think the *g* was for??? Btw, you are the *last* person who should be yapping about name calling and insults as you seem to do it more than anyone.

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Posted: 01-22-05 12:14pm


Isn't anyone going to respond to the fact that I phoned that clinic and was told they do not do elective third trimester abortions? Rosie

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Posted: 01-22-05 12:45pm

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isn't anyone going to respond to the fact that I phoned that clinic and was told they do *not* do elective third trimester abortions?

Rosie

yes ms rosie but the thread was,nt about elective terminations it was about d&x being used in the third trimester be it medicaly or electivly is neither here nor there.

But I am so glad that the clinic do,nt do elective third trimester terminations

please note this is a f.A.C.T.

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Posted: 01-22-05 16:07pm

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yes ms rosie but the thread was,nt about elective terminations it was about d&x being used in the third trimester be it medicaly or electivly is neither here nor there.

prochoicers don't claim that *no* terminations are done in the third trimester, we claim that they are *not* elective. So, the thread is moot.

Rosie

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Posted: 01-22-05 16:21pm

msrosie wrote:

fishx wrote:

yes ms rosie but the thread was,nt about elective terminations it was about d&x being used in the third trimester be it medicaly or electivly is neither here nor there.

prochoicers don't claim that *no* terminations are done in the third trimester, we claim that they are *not* elective. So, the thread is moot.

Rosie

i did,nt say that rosie I said d&x was used in the third trimester pc say it is,nt please read posts carefully before replying it will do more for your credability.

Please note this is fact

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Posted: 01-22-05 18:27pm

fishx wrote:

i did,nt say that rosie I said d&x was used in the third trimester pc say it is,nt please read posts carefully before replying it will do more for your credability.

perhaps you should take your own advice, since I had been responding to posts that claimed that 3rd tri abortions *do* take place electively.

Rosie

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Posted: 01-23-05 04:05am

msrosie wrote:

fishx wrote:

i did,nt say that rosie I said d&x was used in the third trimester pc say it is,nt please read posts carefully before replying it will do more for your credability.

perhaps you should take your own advice, since I had been responding to posts that claimed that 3rd tri abortions *do* take place electively.

Rosie

you only have to read the title of the thread rosie to know what the disscusion is about.

Please note this is f.A.C.T

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Posted: 01-23-05 10:08am

jlee77 wrote:

am I supposed to know what *g* means, I don't speak that language whatever that is. So you may want to "fill" me in since that seemed pretty insultive (your comment to lil). What the hell is "g"?

it' means "grin".

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Posted: 01-23-05 10:09am

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you only have to read the title of the thread rosie to know what the disscusion is about.

discussions can and do go off on tangents. If you were paying attention, you'd know that I was responding to claims that third tri abortions are done electively.

Rosie

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Posted: 01-23-05 10:18am

msrosie wrote:

fishx wrote:

you only have to read the title of the thread rosie to know what the disscusion is about.

discussions can and do go off on tangents. If you were paying attention, you'd know that I was responding to claims that third tri abortions are done electively.

Rosie

then it,s only common sense to state what poster you aim the question at or even quote the post.

See no mix ups then.

Please note this is only an opinion.