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Gero

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Posted: 01-26-05 11:50am
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well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put murderers to death are cold-blooded murderers themselves? No, they are just giving murderers who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 11:54am
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.



well said gero my thoughts exactly




please note this is only an opinion.
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:11pm
foreverblue wrote:
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.






sorry gero there is one major difference and that is legality,you do have capital punishment for anyone who commits.homicide.There is an old saying two wrongs do not a right make.

So you see its not legally homicide untill the law changes




ahh but were not talking law were talking in the eyes of humanity do you mean that a father cannot take revenge for his child?

Please note this is only an opinion.
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foreverblue

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:21pm
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.






sorry gero there is one major difference and that is legality,you do have capital punishment for anyone who commits.homicide.There is an old saying two wrongs do not a right make.


So you see its not legally homicide untill the law changes




ahh but were not talking law were talking in the eyes of humanity do you mean that a father cannot take revenge for his child?


Please note this is only an opinion.


humane=characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion:
how does that sit with you wanting to allow fathers the right to commit homicide if we are talking humanity then no not in the eyes of humanity
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:26pm
foreverblue wrote:
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.






sorry gero there is one major difference and that is legality,you do have capital punishment for anyone who commits.homicide.There is an old saying two wrongs do not a right make.





So you see its not legally homicide untill the law changes




ahh but were not talking law were talking in the eyes of humanity do you mean that a father cannot take revenge for his child?





Please note this is only an opinion.


humane=characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion:
how does that sit with you wanting to allow fathers the right to commit homicide if we are talking humanity then no not in the eyes of humanity





it sits very well with me a father has a right to avenge his potential

child I belive that it is very human for a father to wish revenge the doctors kill his potential child he kills the doctors all egual there

please note this is only an opinion.
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foreverblue

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:31pm
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.






sorry gero there is one major difference and that is legality,you do have capital punishment for anyone who commits.homicide.There is an old saying two wrongs do not a right make.




So you see its not legally homicide untill the law changes




ahh but were not talking law were talking in the eyes of humanity do you mean that a father cannot take revenge for his child?




Please note this is only an opinion.


humane=characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion:
how does that sit with you wanting to allow fathers the right to commit homicide if we are talking humanity then no not in the eyes of humanity





it sits very well with me a father has a right to avenge his child I belive that it is very human for a father to wish revenge the doctors kill his child he kills the doctors all egual there

please note this is only an opinion.




an eye for an eye vs thou shalt not kill
an eye for an eye was not a commandment,whereas thou shalt not kill was
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:36pm
foreverblue wrote:
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
fishx wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
gero wrote:
kourtney08 wrote:
well then I guess that means they're not pro-life.
does that mean that the people who put not a nice persons to death are cold-blooded not a nice persons themselves? No, they are just giving not a nice persons who, for the most part, take innocent lives their due punishment. In the eyes of people who bomb these clinics, it's a similar concept. If you take the life of a child then your life should be taken too as punishment for doing wrong.






sorry gero there is one major difference and that is legality,you do have capital punishment for anyone who commits.homicide.There is an old saying two wrongs do not a right make.





So you see its not legally homicide untill the law changes




ahh but were not talking law were talking in the eyes of humanity do you mean that a father cannot take revenge for his child?





Please note this is only an opinion.


humane=characterized by kindness, mercy, or compassion:
how does that sit with you wanting to allow fathers the right to commit homicide if we are talking humanity then no not in the eyes of humanity





it sits very well with me a father has a right to avenge his child I belive that it is very human for a father to wish revenge the doctors kill his child he kills the doctors all egual there

please note this is only an opinion.




an eye for an eye vs thou shalt not kill
an eye for an eye was not a commandment,whereas thou shalt not kill was



means nothing to me i,m a non beliver

please note this is fact
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:44pm
An eye for an eye, is such a hypocrtical statement. I can't believe people are even still saying it.

"okay, lets kill someone, who killed someone, for what? To prove that killing people is wrong"

i bet someone would look pretty stupid if they said they killed someone, because that person killed someone and it was wrong.

Hypocrites.
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 12:45pm
kourtney08 wrote:
an eye for an eye, is such a hypocrtical statement. I can't believe people are even still saying it.

"okay, lets kill someone, who killed someone, for what? To prove that killing people is wrong"

i bet someone would look pretty stupid if they said they killed someone, because that person killed someone and it was wrong.

Hypocrites.


you mean if someone killed your child you would shake their hand and say thanks doctor?
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-26-05 14:17pm
Yeah, thats what'd i'd do. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

if my daughter, happend to get murdered in the very small town in alaska that we live in, i'd be extremely upset. I'd want to kill someone. But, what would be the point? Then i'd go to jail and be just as bad as the person who killed my daughter. Plus it wouldn't bring her back. Pointless acts
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-26-05 14:25pm
kourtney08 wrote:
yeah, thats what'd i'd do. :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:

if my daughter, happend to get not a nice acted in the very small town in alaska that we live in, i'd be extremely upset. I'd want to kill someone. But, what would be the point? Then i'd go to jail and be just as bad as the person who killed my daughter. Plus it wouldn't bring her back. Pointless acts



the point would be avenging your daughter of course but still if you think that people should be able to kill a potential son or daughter then the parents should just forget about it thats your perogative but I still say the father should be entitled to revenge for the death of his potential child.



Please note this is only an opinion.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-26-05 14:32pm
Thats ridiculous.

I don't think if a guys daughter was murdered, and he went and killed him, that the cops would say "well hey, he was just avenging his daughter! So its okay!" :roll: :roll:

my daughter is my life, and I would be absolutley devistated if something happend to her. But I wouldn't go ruin my life and kill someone. It wouldn't bring her back, and if it doesn't bring her back, im not doing it.
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foreverblue

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Posted: 01-26-05 14:56pm
kourtney08 wrote:
thats ridiculous.

I don't think if a guys daughter was not a nice acted, and he went and killed him, that the cops would say "well hey, he was just avenging his daughter! So its okay!" :roll: :roll:

my daughter is my life, and I would be absolutley devistated if something happend to her. But I wouldn't go ruin my life and kill someone. It wouldn't bring her back, and if it doesn't bring her back, im not doing it.




if your child is killed by someone and you killed them within a certain time frame then you will most certantly *get away* with it,in court due to the emotional state that you are in and in the eyes of the public you have done right and it usually only results in a manslaughter charge and not a homicide charge.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-26-05 17:27pm
Sorry, but im not an angry person like that. Are you guys going to debate me on that now too?
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bd1012

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Posted: 01-26-05 20:18pm
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anyone that lays a hand on my family doesn't deserve to live and I would see to it as exactly that.


how prolife of you

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honestly, I think you would need to be in this situation before you would say you would not kill this person right back

and I think you need to be in the situation of somebody with an unwanted and unplanned pregnancy before you judge them on their choice about abortion and don't tell me you have been there becuase everybody's different and every pregnancy is different and everybody handles pregnancy a different way..Not all the time is it just being a few extra sizes those nine months.. Some have a whole slew of problems from that pregnancy that you would never even dream of.. Not saying all do.. Just trying to show you why assumptions and generalizations don't cut it.. Everyone is different.
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-26-05 20:38pm
Jlee~wasn't your pregnancy unplanned???
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bd1012

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Posted: 01-26-05 20:49pm
I know her pregnancy was unplanned, but like I said.. Everyone is different and no matter what..In this case.. You can never know how everyone with an uwp feels because again.. Every pregnancy is different and every body is different.
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Posted: 01-27-05 00:32am
fishx wrote:
steen wrote:
fishx wrote:
if it is because someone has just killed your potential child then yes as I said an eye for an eye.

Please note this is only an opinion.
yes, we duly note that in your opinion, homicide is a justified response to a legal medical procedure.
so by this comment can I safley take it that you do,nt agree with an eye for an eye?
yes, you can safely assume that murdering somebody because they underwent a legal medical procedure is not valid. You can call that "an eye for an eye" or not, but I disagree with the very idea. You do not, which is your right.
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steen

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Posted: 01-27-05 00:34am
fishx wrote:
it sits very well with me a father has a right to avenge his potential
yes, we already know that you support homicide, and that obviously you see the man as having more right than the woman. Nice display of misogyny there.
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steen

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Posted: 01-27-05 00:36am
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but I still say the father should be entitled to revenge for the death of his potential child.
yes, we do understand that your opinion is that homicide is an acceptable response to a legal medical procedure. In that, you don't seem to be very different than the "army of god" domestic terrorists.
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