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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-25-05 14:09pm

As I said in my other posts....I am soooo far from being perfect!!! No~i am not married. I have been with my boyfriend for 3 years. Beleive me christian-like does not meen "perfect"!!!! Lol! So yes, the daddy is in the picture very much so....We're sort of figuring out what to do right now as far as marriage goes...His and my parents are both very supportive of us (not necessarily thrilled yet!) and are helping us 100%!!
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-25-05 14:16pm

Even the most christian, of christians (does that make sense?) arn't perfect! I was just wondering, because the way you talk, it'd seem like you were someone who'd wait until marriage to have sex. I think its great that your boyfriend is still in the picture, and good luck with the pregnancy! How is it going so far?! Pretty smooth? I had a horrible pregnancy, but an awesome labor. I said, I guess god felt bad that i'd gone through so much, that he let me have an easy labor.
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-25-05 14:20pm

Lol!! Yes~marriage is the "ideal" situation, however not everything works out the way we plan now does it!?!?! Sometimes I feel bad I can't be a better example, but I guess in a sense it can help other's relate and see that you don't have to be "perfect" to love god and be considered a christian!!

I was fine untill the end of week 6, and I started getting horrible morning sickness(and lunch, and dinner, and night sickness!!) it's really starting to fade now, I think it's my vitamins that make me feel so bad!! I'm so scared for delivery but I still have a while to go!! Thanks!!
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-25-05 14:23pm

It probably is the vitamins. My friend kace got horribly sick off of them. But me, I had morning sickness up until my 8th month, 24/7. Then at 34 weeks I went into premature labor and had to be flown to a different city because my town doesn't have a nicu (its a small town in alaska) and I had to stay there for 5 weeks, then they flew me back to my town at 36 weeks and I had my daughter at 38 weeks, all together it was a 2 hour labor. I got to the hospital a little after 10pm on the 5th of november, and had my daughter at 10:50.

But I need to take my boyfriend to work, i'll be back on when I get back :)
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-25-05 14:25pm

I really hope I don't have sickness for that long!!! I'll see you around!!
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-25-05 15:39pm

It was horrible! I couldn't eat anything, and the first 3 months I wasn't gaining any weight! I was 133 lbs when I had my daughter!
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Posted: 01-25-05 16:04pm

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Posted: 01-25-05 16:04pm

Oops posted it again


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Briansbaby
Posted: 01-25-05 16:08pm

Have you spoke w/your doc about something for your sickness and it will not effect your pregnancy, it will just help make your pregnancy stronger as you do need your strength w/your bundle of joy. I don't know you but you do sound stressed, of course, I could be wrong, I am one of these imperfect humans also, lol.
It is great just having a significant other, me and my husband now, lived together for 13 years, helped to raise his two kids, we have been married now for almost 6 years.
I had an ex-husband, we never got along being married but got a divorce and we got along fine, sometimes that piece of paper is really strange.
I don't have a religion, I have a relationship w/the man above.
I am not 100% for abortions but their are a lot of times, I see a need and I believe in choice and a right, this is why I am pro-choice, we will always have a choice whether it be legal or illegal.
The best to you!
Sandy
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-25-05 16:11pm

Thanks! Yes, I plan on talking to my Dr. At my next app't...I swear the only stress in my life is this debate forum!! Lol!! Nice to meet you!!! Yes I agree, there is always the choice of having an abortion.....But I don't believe it is right.
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Posted: 01-25-05 16:34pm

It might be wrong in your eyes but it is right in others. We are not living in there shoes.
Life would be dull if we were and felt all the same way. We would not be here on earth.
Sincerely,
sandy
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 01-25-05 16:42pm

Oh, I agree!! Life would be dull!! Peacefull but dull~lol!
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steen

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:04pm

where_is_the_line wrote:
it is not an issue of who is more important, but rather who has more on the line.
in that case, you would also have to say that if a life can be saved by giving blood, then giving blood should be mandated. After all, giving blood is quite routine and safe, while bleeding to death is putting the person's life on the line.

So are you for forced blood donations? Can the state force you to give blood every 4-6 weeks whether you want to or not?

And what about your kidney? You only need one. And a live donor faces less risk than does a woman giving birth. So to save the 50,000 people who die while waiting for a transplant every year, can we force people to give a kidney, even against their will? After all, the person dying from kidney failure after years of dialysis has *a lot* more at stake than you who can live just fine on one kidney.

So who has most on line, and how far can the law go in preserving the one with most at stake?
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steen

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:05pm

gero wrote:
give it a rest, steen. You are going to have a tough time convincing prolife people here that abortion is justifiable no matter what excuse you throw out.
likewise, so are you also saying that prolifers should be giving it a rest?

Or are you just trying to have a more one-sided prolife view presented here?
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:06pm

I personaly belive that if it was something that you did to cause the person to need a kidney then yes you should be forced to give up one of yours and yes it would be great if everyone had to give blood every month.

Please note this is only an opinion
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steen

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:08pm

where_is_the_line wrote:
as it stands today, american women have the legal right to obtain an abortion in all 50 states, through all nine months of pregnancy, for virtually any reason at all. This has been true since january of 1973 when the supreme court declared that autonomous abortion rights are built into the constitution, and that any legal barriers which prevent mothers from aborting their children are unconstitutional.
< span class="postbody">this claim is false, as this is (1) not what the roe vs wade description stated, and (2) all 50 states have restrictions on 3rd trimester abortions.

Did you see any benefit in posting such a claim?

Or did you get it from somewhere without providing the source (aka. Plagiarism)?
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steen

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:11pm

fishx wrote:
i personaly belive that if it was something that you did to cause the person to need a kidney then yes you should be forced to give up one of yours and yes it would be great if everyone had to give blood every month.
ah, but that is not what line stated. Line's specific claim was that it is not a matter of fault, but solely about "who has more on the line"

and we are not talking about what is "great." certainly, if there was no need for abortions, just like with any medical procedure, then that would be "great." the issue in line's post, however, was who wins out when there are competing rights.

So the question thus is posed to you as well. Is it really the "most to lose" issue that gives the right?
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:23pm

Termination has no winners only losers

who decides whose got the most to lose?

Please note this is only an opinion
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steen

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:45pm

fishx wrote:
termination has no winners only losers

who decides whose got the most to lose?

Please note this is only an opinion
and your opinion is not shared by the woman who terminates her pregnancy, as she clearly feel that she is better off with the abortion than without it. So what is the relevance of your opinion? It sure has no meaning to the woman who seeks an abortion.
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-25-05 17:50pm

Awww whats up steen picking one liners again .


Please note this is fact,
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