Joined: 03 Apr 2004 Posts: 81 Location: red shift space,
Sz & Christianity Posted: 01-19-05 15:51pm
Core vs. Cortex
a "reason why" for evil, allowed on earth
by god? The tree at the center of the
garden was never to be touched, it was a
test. Maybe to make the devil feel bad,
teach him a lesson, 'cause if everyone
just ignored him and ignored the tree,
don't you think that would hurt the
devil's feelings, and have an effect on
evil itself?
Or, I once heard the story of a man who
took three younger girls and put them into
a different country where they couldn't
speak the language, and was hoping one
would become his mate, after being
"purified" by this process. Maybe this is
what god is doing with us, putting us in a
test situation, giving us a clue, and
hoping we find our way back to him.
Or these were my thoughts last year, when
I was going throught the catholicism
myself;
for about one year, I thought that a
catholic spirituality I had discovered was
the most effective part of a cure that
also included closer family ties, prayer,
abstention from just about everything ( I
went pretty far with it, taking only cold
showers, going to mass several times a
week), and I could hear the angels talking
to me during mass, during communion -
voices, but nothing like the regular ones
in tone or nature of the material, rather
they were teaching me how to pray, and
showing me heaven. I had gone to midnight
mass with my devout brother-in-law and
their whole family, and because I see
visions in my head in the evening, this
two or three hour mass was quite an event
for me, and after it was over I said it
had been like an exorcism. I thought I
had seen a writhing cat come out of my
shoulder and fly up into the church
ceiling and the next night when I went to
sleep to look in the demon world, everyone
was gone; like showing up in new york city
after a nuclear bomb or something. Just
saw one demon left, deep underground in an
old building, sitting at a desk,
writing.
It was a good year, and I was increasingly
normal, but it also cost me more energy
than is sustainable I think. The
following easter, for two nights leading
up to it I had intense dreams of demon
interventions, and during the second
easter vigil mass it was intense as ever,
but coming out after I was again maniacal,
like a demon.
My visions behind the eyes got more and
more intense over the course of that year.
My brother in law tried to counsel me
saying "if you re in a place that god is
pleased with, the devil has to worry about
you, and work on you harder".
And maybe it was true, because after that
second easter I broke up with my
girlfriend and then quit going to church
and went back pretty much to my old set of
beliefs, (crazy, unique esoteric stuff
based on shamanism, astrophysics, and
whatever else!), and my family seems
disappointed, and think i'm insane, I
think, but I feel this is me, this is
where i'm supposed to be, and that
ultimately I am actually against what the
catholic religion was doing to me. For a
while I loved it, and was saying that all
sz people should try it, that the catholic
church was "by schizophrenics, for
schizophrenics".
Curiously I had an idea while watching
"terminator 3". Man against machine. Man
creates machine but then machine gets
carried away and threatens to takeover,
and we of course all root for mankind to
win the battle. Our human brains have a
reptilian core, then a mammalian cortex
that surrounds it. What came first? The
core! Then should we be rooting in any
way for the cortex to take over, against
the core? Wouldn't that be like machines
taking over man? Core vs. Cortex.; the
core came first, it should be the cortex
for the core; machines for man. The word
"catholic" means all inclusive. But they
exclude demons (not to mention other
people's dissenting ways of life, though
that doesn't apply to me). Should they be
"exorcizing" demons? "destroying" demons?
"aborting" demons (as they say judas
did)? What came first, demons or
religion? Core or cortex? Man or
machine? Shouldn't it be, then, religion
for the demons, rather than trying to kick
the ladder out from under itself?
This "call" to "heaven" that my brother in
law speaks of, why is this is something we
should listen to? Maybe it's like we're
all pine trees, in a field, and a
lumberjack comes along and "calls" several
of the trees, to "give up" their roots in
the soil, the underworld, and fly away to
a "better place" where all the other trees
that have been disappearing from the field
have already gone? We are from the earth,
this is our home, and i'm not going
anywhere. I love the human world, and I
love the demon world, these are all
creatures in the same situation, all in
need of help. No one should be excluded
in true perfection.
My experience of devout catholicism taught
me that jesus is powerful magic, a
powerful shaman, but how fair is it? How
one-sided? Kill the demons? Abort them?
Exorcize them? They are part of the
everything! And a truly magical, beatific
jet can 'hold high the broken bowl' and
bring enlightenment and god to all, demons
included.
The bible progresses like a beautiful
dream, , but I think it leaves out
realities so fundamental that it is as if
you got up in the morning and planned your
week without allowing for food or sleep.
The need for these things would gradually
creep in and obstruct the fulfillment of
the original plan. And so I think it is
with the demons, contraversial and
unpleasant as this idea may be. So do you
"exorcize" the hunger and the sleepiness?
Fight it and pray for it to go? Wouldn't
it be more effective to allocate it it's
proper place in the creation of the
initial plan?
It is as if the universe itself, made up
of brilliant balls of light and vast
swaths of darkness as well as the
ultimately dark 'black holes', decided to
pray only for light. Beautiful suns would
light up, and at first it would seem like
wonderful magic, but something about this
is not right.Darkness, even black holes,
are an integral part of this universe we a
re so graciously presented with. Could it
be this universe is our truest "bible",
revealing unimaginable beauty and power,
as an infinite guide and even a role-model
- the human spirit as a microcosm of the
universe, which contains within it two
opposites, and uses it's very being as a
unification of these opposites?
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Joined: 12 Jan 2005 Posts: 15 Location: scotland
Cosmic! Posted: 01-20-05 09:32am
What use are you getting out of this
forum, your certainly set in your ways.Its
seems you dont want any advice from any
one. I ve had thoughts like these before,
you know like what if jesus is the devil
and viceversa, and we are all being
deceived.But only the truely enlightened
people ever get to unlock the mysteries of
our agreeabley wonderful universe.This
life we live in now is just like an
audition for the main stage in the best
production on earth or even in the whole
infinitive universe. The top man wants
all of them to go through so he can
prepare them for the real thing, none of
this amature stuff that people so happily
except as best.The real thing comes after
old ways of things has past. Then we will
see and know the true wonder of everything
that was ever created, right down to the
very last microscopic dot.Im waiting for
that.Jesus said "i am the way the truth
and the light" and I believe him.Some of
your stuff is fasinating to read {apart
from the really twisted stuff}. You have
a real talent for writing and your
imagenation seems to be pretty deep, but
maybe you already know that. Bye and
take care.
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