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Blue_Streak_Creations

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Posted: 08-08-05 09:47am

Hello---pain in ribs, bruised feeling

i'm the original postee of this message... It was my gallbladder. Had it out april 6. I feel 100% now.

Hello- having a really bad pain

you need to get to your dr for the symptoms you are having. It did take awhile to figure out what was wrong in my case...But they did eventually...& i'm grateful to the dr's. Also a good indicator of it being a gallbladder issue is if you have pain in your rib cage...After you eat a fatty meal, usually accompanied by nausea.


Hello- surgeon vs. Gastro doc

i saw both dr's to determine it was my gallbladder. Your doing the right thing seeing both the surgeon & the gastro Dr.


Hope everyone feels better soon...

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Re: Hida Scan Normal...pain Under Right Rib?
Posted: 08-13-05 03:25am

blue_streak_creations wrote:
i am so confused & scared... So i've got a few questions. Hope these symptoms makes sense to someone out there.


January 4- went to er for severe pain in right upper quadrant. Also had pain in right arm that radiated up into shoulder, neck & jaw. They sent me home saying it was just heartburn. General doctor figured it was my gallbladder & also that I have ulcers, since I have frequent heartburn/sour stomach. Had two more attacks thursday january 13, at 2am & then around 7 pm. After attack had dull achy heavy feeling below right rib. Now the pain is just there most of the time, achy...Very uncomfortable...More so when I set. Thigh joints hurt for two days following. Noticed pale stools for a few days after these attacks as well, now back to normal. Have felt lightheaded since attack that sent me to the er. Blood pressure has been lower then usual for me, but i've also not been leaving the house much, feel like crud most the time. Tired, fatigued light head. This mostly starts at night 6/7 pm. Light headed feelings even there when lying down to go to bed... Feels like my head is swimming. Er blood tests showed slightly elevated liver enzymes. Second blood test a week later showed liver enzymes down from previous week, but still elevated. Ultrasound revealed a small polyp in gallbladder 3,4mm. No stones. Had a hida scan last thursday, came back normal. My general doctor is sending me to consult with a surgeon.

My questions are-- if my gallbladder is working normally, no stones, just a small polyp...What could be causing the pain under my lower right rib? Also what could cause slightly elevated liver enzymes?


Thanks so much for the help...

Heather


heather,
... And the others in the group of you that are suffering with heather. We regularly see these symptoms in the hospital. The gall bladder can have "sludge" not necessiarily stones that cause it to work improperly and make you feel ...Awful. If this is the case, it needs to come out. You may have more than one problem. If your problem is associated with eating, and you have light stools, and your liver enzymes are up, and you have pain, it's probably your gall bladder. It might be sludge. In the mean time, try the gall bladder diet. Take all fat and all spicy foods out of your diet until surgery. A totally bland diet of cooked vegetables and oatmeal, fish, will usually get you through. The rule is "if it tastes good, spit it out" good luck!
Laurie, rn
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Blue_Streak_Creations

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Posted: 08-13-05 08:29am

Hi laurie, rn,

thanks for your reply. :)

i posted later on in this post that I had gallbladder surgery 4 months ago. It with inflamed with adhesion's, & had cholesterol polyps inside. At the beginning the bland diet did help. I found towards the end of my ordeal the gallbladder diet did not help...Any food & no food caused pain.

Hope everyone else who is suffering with gallbladder troubles gets things resolved quickly. I had been sick for 3/4 years...Nauseated on almost a daily basis with numerous digestive issues. Had been diagnosed with ibs... It was not till the gallbladder pain/attacks kicked in back in january that the gallbladder finally manifested itself as being the culprit.

I've felt great since surgery. I don't regret that decision one bit!!

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Yikes, Scared...
Posted: 08-18-05 15:36pm

Going the doctor now.. I found this board last night. Thank goodness for the rn posting... Since I don't have gallstones so nobody has diagnosed me.. I have the exact same symptoms as this board but minus a major one (nausea) and add a weird one (uh... Well, I have, after an episode, bile in my fecal matter)..
For the last 7 years or so (i'm 34 now)... Well it started with minor twinges under my right rib cage in one specific area I thought it was liver but it was sooo specific - just a spot under the right rib cage. Over the years, it escalated into full-on pain in bouts of days (not hours like most have here??). It comes with indegestion.

My liver enzymes are.. Ehh.. High-ish but not crazy high and when I get retested sometimes that are simply normol or high-normal.
I've gone to the er (early on) i've had the ultrasound... No gallstones.

The year, the pain has finally crept around my back to exactly the same spot at the front. When I lean back on my chair I jump up. It's like.. An inflamation is in there and my pushing/leaning on my back's right side it hitting it.
The reason I am scared this time and i'm going to take action is this bout is simple not going away.. Also, I talked with a lady who has had gallstones.. And all the symptoms I have are just like hers (same area, same sort of pain) only hers it brought on by food - honestly, I don't notice the food relation that much.. Maybe?).
But what scared me is when I asked, expecting a yes, that if she had the same bile problem in her stool (and one the stool were pale after a bout) she looked horrified and said "oh honey, you are much worse than me. If your gallbladder is distributing that much bile, it could kill you"
last night, my face swoll up... Not good, scared me - I ended up with a panic attack. No other symptoms besides the pain and the swollen face. I have a cold so I don't now if the ill-times cold has brought on a small fever (probably) or if it's the gallbladder.
Well, I know it's not gallstones but my first er visit, while living in new york, the er doctor said "you have a gallbladder that purges - it's not functioning properly" and never again did anyone diagnose it.
It's time for I can't stand the pain and that face swelling really scared me!
Write in later, all be well!
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HaredresserD

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Posted: 08-30-05 12:21pm

I haven't been here in a while... Just popped in to see what was going on... Hi heather... :) this is where we met! ;) oops.. I should call her blue.. :d

isn't it amazing what a nasty gb can do to your body?? It seems everywhere I go now someone is having gb troubles or is being given the 'runaround' from their doctors...Lol I have read some of the new posts from people suffering... Stay on your doctor... I had no stones but my gb wasn't working properly.. All tests were coming back normal.. Even my hida was 39% .. Which doesn't seem normal to me but the doc's go by 35% or less...

I had mine out on march 10 and continue to do better all the time... Shoot.. Even my bowels are finally starting to work ... Hahaha I was having severe constipation troubles after the surgery and they have been working normal for two weeks now... Doc said it could take some time... I'm on nexium... But forgot to take it a couple of days and seemed okay but i'm scared to stop it... Flashbacks of 6 months ago.. Heehee I have gastritis too.. And donna... Have you tried the nexium?? The others weren't getting rid of the nausea for me but the lil purple pill works like a charm... It's spensive but it's the only one that has worked for me.... One of these days i'm gonna see if I can stop it and be okay.

I had suffered for nine years... But they never suspected gb troubles cause the pain started lower (waist level) ..Was told it was ibs.... I had a dizzy like crazy headed feeling all that time... Gone when the gb was removed... My right ring finger would go numb from time to time... Gone... Had bladder troubles... Would sit and couldn't pee... Gone.. Now I go like a race horse.... I could go on and on... That lower right sided pain hasn't been back and I never went 6 mo before without a bout of it.... I eat anything I want now.... Nothing hurts... Cept if I eat too much at one time... ;) just went on a cruise and we ate like babies.. Every three hours in the buffett... Heeheeeee even at midnight and I didn't have any troubles...

So if you doc says it's not your gb... Get a 2nd opinion... Do have all the tests and try nexium... For a few weeks to see if it could be gerd... If it doesn't help... Pursue gb troubles.... It has changed my life to be gallbladderless!!
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Pain Under Right Rib
Posted: 09-07-05 15:31pm

My symptoms started with chest pains that made me think I was having a heart attack. Went to the doctor have had 3 ekg's,wore a 24 hour halter monitor on heart and had an echocardiogram everything came back normal. Now I am having pain under my right rib that comes and goes also on ocassion back hurts. I also have noticed lots of gas on my stomach. Have had ultrasound on gallbladder which came back normal. Had an upper gi done which showed only a small amount of acid reflux nothing to worry about says the doctor now they have drawn blood to test my pancreas. Any insight at this point from anyone would be greatly appreciated. I now feel like a lab rat being tested.
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gertrudey

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Posted: 09-12-05 09:25am

I had emergency gallbladder surgery about 3 years ago after a stone became logged in my pancreatic duct. Gallbladder pain is the worst pain in the world. I got it 20-30 minutes after everytime I ate and it continued for about 2-3 hours afterwards. I still get the ocassional attack which is weird because I no longer have a gallbladder. Overeating or drinking excessive amounts of alcohol seem to bring it on. Be prepared to spend countless hours on the toilet after it is removed though. :roll: I recently discovered digestive enzymes (vitaminshoppe/gnc) and they work well breaking down food properly without the availability of a gallbladder! Good luck with your surgery.
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gertrudey

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Posted: 09-12-05 09:32am

Also, I found that to ease the pain the few days before surgery... Laying in a fetal position seemed to be less painful than walking around or anything else really. When the pain in shooting through your back, the fetal position is almost instinctual. Oh and note: post-surgery avoid at all cost malt beverages like mike's hard lemonade and the like (trust me on this, they will immediately induce the severe pain!! This has been the case with myself and many others that I talk to) and do not consume anything with codeine in it (again, within 15 minutes you will be crying in a fetal position from the pain). If I think of anymore tips I will share!!
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moongoddess

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Posted: 09-12-05 18:01pm

Hi am new here
since april last year I been having a constant pain in my middle right region of my back plus got very bad back which infects my legs bottom that sort of thing since two weeks ago I been having a pain on my right hand side rib since last wednesday now getting it but not painful on my left handside of ribs past couple of days I been feeling sick as well
i am getting scared now
i dont know what is happening I scared it is some thing serious do think it could be some thing with my gallbladder
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moongoddess

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Posted: 09-12-05 18:06pm

I forgot to mention the ribpains is on my frontit does feel wrose when I breathe in and when I move funny I also suffer with panic attacks so that isnt helping it
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Blue_Streak_Creations

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Posted: 09-13-05 08:13am

Hello moongoddess,

one really good indicator of gallbladder problems is if after you eat a high fat meal...If within a half hour to a few hours you get pain under the right side along with nausea. Though at the end of my ordeal before surgery, I was nauseated most all the time & also had pain in my right lower rib cage all the time. I also had severe gallbladder attacks, which feels much like contractions when giving birth, but worse as there is no letup, like with contractions. A diseased gallbladder can do a myriad of strange things to a person & so no two peoples symptoms are alike.

The best advice I could give is that you should see your family Dr. He/she can help steer you in the right direction.

Blue
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Blue_Streak_Creations

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Posted: 09-13-05 08:31am

In reply to pain under right rib posted: 09-07-05 3:31pm

your symptoms sound a lot like how my pain started, the bad chest pains followed by all the other pains. I also had nausea 3/4 years prior to the pain kicking in. You did no mention you had a hida scan which is the test specifically for the gallbladder. Of course mine came back normal & my gallbladder was far from it. .

With me, all the countless tests they did, basically just ruled out any other problem it could have been. And they finally decided it had to be my gallbladder. My surgery was this past april. It was inflamed with adhesion's on the outside & inside it had cholesterol polyps.

Hate to say it, but at this point they are probably doing the same thing to you. Running tests after test to rule out any other causes.

Hang in there

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moongoddess

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Posted: 09-13-05 14:45pm

Hi blue_streak
ty for ur reply
i forgot to mention I also very burpy and two years ago I got told I i got acid reflux plus blood test revealed high liver emzines excuse the spelling
i went to hospital 2 weeks ago with a bad panic attack they asked me if there was any thing else wrong with me I mentioned to him I had pain in right rib and feeling sick and that sort of thing he thought it could be gallbladder but he said I had to go back to my doctor and mention to him what I told the hospital
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Pain In Ribs And Tummy
Posted: 09-22-05 20:31pm

Can anyone advise, 6 years I have been feeling ordinary, of course all doctors tell me I imagine pain!. Over the last couple of weeks I have had a pain just under my left breast into my ribs (on the left) and into my shoulder blade. I thought it was something to do with my heart so I took myself to the gp I had an ecg which was perfect blood presure was perfect. Doc thought it was muscle trouble, I have my doubts. Could it be something to do with trapped wind. Ihave a tender tummy, and often a not so nice taste in my mouth sometimes I get quite a bad pain in my rear end. Can anyone help. I just want to feel normal. I am 39, quite a good diet, don't smoke probably could do with doing more exercise!
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Gallbladder Pain!
Posted: 09-26-05 16:34pm

:?: ok I have read through & feel like you are explaining my symptoms. I have been diagnosed with gallstones, after a very painful attack, where I thought I was having a heart attack. I waited weeks for an abdo ultrasound which finally diagnosed the condition. I am due to have surgery next week, but was very interested to hear about one symptom that some of you have been getting. In the last week or so, I can feel, what I can only describe is like having a babys foot pushing against the bottom of my ribs (where they meet in the middle). Of course all the normal things have run through my head & yes I am panicking abit, as to what else they may find next week. I can only think that is where my liver is & wonder what it is :cry:
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Posted: 09-26-05 19:37pm

Hi mums... :)

don't worry too much.. That will make you worse... Ha that being said from someone who is all fixed now! Eh??

I had that same 'babyfoot' feeling... Felt like something was inside me.. When I would lay down... And barely push my rib sternum area it would hurt really bad...Very tender... And would actually feel like something was trying to push out the back side.... It was so sore to even touch my sternum area.. You know that cartilage part where the ribs meet just below the boobs!! And it felt swollen, I thought I had a tumor or something.... That went away a few months after the yiggy gb came out... Doc said I was all inflamed inside... And there is no more babyfoot feeling... So hang in there... I was worried about my liver and pancreas... Was sooooooooo sickly it was pitiful.... I have had to stay on nexium though.... So not sure if the gerd caused the gb trouble or vice versa..

Good luck getting well!!
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Posted: 10-04-05 06:26am

Thanks for replying :) I am trying to shake off a cold at the moment & am hoping that the operation doesnt get cancelled :? Thanks for your kind wishes
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Posted: 10-06-05 09:00am

Has anybody told you about gastrointestinal migraines? You should look into this.
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Gallbladder Polyp
Posted: 10-07-05 19:41pm

Hello, I am a 27 year old female. I recently had an abdominal ultrasound done. During the ultrasound a very small polyp was found on my gallbladder. My doctor said it was nothing to worry about and he didn't recommend surgery. I am very concerned and am not sure I agree with him. The reason I was sent for the ultrasound was because he thought I had gallstones due to some slight pain under the right ribcage and into my back.
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Posted: 10-07-05 22:33pm

Hi laura a, sorry to hear of your troubles. I can understand your fears. Your dr at this point may not be too concerned or recommending surgery because you are not exhibiting other severe symptoms that are associated with gallbladder disease. He may just recommend you have an ultra sound every six months to a year to make sure the polyp does not get any bigger. But since your uncomfortable with what your dr told you, I would recommend getting a second opinion just to make sure it not something else & to ease your fears.




I saw 3 all together. My general doctor, gastrointestinal dr & a surgeon. They all agreed it needed to come out. Their fear was the polyp could be something bad. I was also having excruciating gallbladder attacks, constant pain in my right side, along with back, chest pains & numerous other pains. Also daily nausea that I had for 3 years & had no idea why. Diseased gallbladders are mean little buggers, they can cause a myriad of troubles/pains. Like you, I had just the one polyp, so they thought. When they removed my gallbladder this past april there was more then one cholesterol polyp. The gallbladder was also inflamed with adhesion's all over the outside of it.

Hope all goes well for you

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