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Posted: 01-27-05 17:32pm
foreverblue
wrote:
sorry but as prochoicers like to say that
site is biased,end of
story.
what site? The charts are statistics from
statistics canada and acog. I only put
the charts on my persoanal site (which has
nothing to do with abortion) to show to
you.
Quote:
i believe that
any surgery that is not medically required
should not be performed,this includes
those to posh to push c sections that all
the rich and famouse
have.
abortion *is* medically required for a
woman who does not want to continue her
pregnancy. But, do you think bariatric
surgery should be banned? Breast
implants? Tummy tucks? Facelifts?
Circumcision? Etc. Etc.
Rosie
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-27-05 17:40pm
[quote="msrosie]
Quote:
i believe that
any surgery that is not medically required
should not be performed,this includes
those to posh to push c sections that all
the rich and famouse
have.
abortion *is* medically required for a
woman who does not want to continue her
pregnancy. But, do you think bariatric
surgery should be banned? Breast
implants? Tummy tucks? Facelifts?
Circumcision? Etc. Etc.
Rosie[/quote]
as a matter of fact ms rosie I think
breast implants for anything other than
after a masectemy,are
unnecessary,facelifts are mainly done for
vanity so no it isnt medically
required,and as I have said before im not
a doctor therefore I cannot say what is
medically required or what isnt,all I do
is post my opinnion
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steen
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Posted: 01-27-05 18:18pm
foreverblue
wrote:
you backpedal any quicker
steen and you are going to fall over still
no apology for calling me a liar when I
wasnt lying
ah, but you were. You
claimed that medline's information was
based on m-w, not stedman's medical
dictionary.
Or are you now saying that you were rather
grossly mistaken instead? I guess that
could be a way out of this for you.
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steen
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Posted: 01-27-05 18:23pm
foreverblue
wrote:
as a matter of fact ms rosie
I think breast implants for anything other
than after a masectemy,are
unnecessary,
ah, so you are enough of
an expert in that woman's life that you
without talking with her and exploring the
reasons for her seeking the surgery, are
able to determine whether it is necessary
or not? Amazing ability. The field of
medicine can use somebody like you, who
can make accurate medical decisions based
on only their own personal opinions.
Amazing. And here your talents are
wasted on a bulletin board. How sad.
Quote:
facelifts are
mainly done for vanity so no it isnt
medically
required,
really? For "vanity"?
And your research that proves this is
found where exactly?
Quote:
and as I have
said before im not a doctor therefore I
cannot say what is medically required or
what isnt,all I do is post my
opinnion
ah, so you are trying to
pretend that your personal opinion somehow
is a good medical diagnostic tool? Ok, I
got it loud and clear now.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-27-05 21:26pm
Foreverblue.
You think steen is the only Dr., that
cannot spell well, you must be out of your
tree, lol, and may I ask, how many dr's.
Have you worked for, why do you think most
of their work is done by dictation.
You pro-lifers here are so unreal, you
feel that they should stop alot of these
abortions, when education is cutting back,
parents cannnot even punish there children
when they do wrong, kids tell there
parents what to do, their are not a lot of
jobs out there, you cannot stop a 12-25y/o
female from having sex no matter how much
you talk to them and how much education
you give them as they will feel that
pregnancy will not happen to them. You
want more families in the welfare system
when it is a strain now. You want more
children and baby's that are unfed,
unloved, abused, neglected, filthy, more
shootings, more crack baby's, more kids
drowned and killed, how sad you are, take
a good look @ reality. You will probably
say that they can be adopted, their are a
lot of adoptions that do not go thru and
alot of foster homes that are pure hell.
Yes there are alot of good children and
parents but there are toooo many sad cases
now. What little selfish people you are,
and then you want to take away womens
rights and choices, wow.
Sincerely,
sandy
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mom2trevor
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Posted: 01-27-05 23:29pm
sandyallen
wrote:
foreverblue.
You think steen is the only Dr., that
cannot spell well, you must be out of your
tree, lol, and may I ask, how many dr's.
Have you worked for, why do you think most
of their work is done by dictation.
You pro-lifers here are so unreal, you
feel that they should stop alot of these
abortions, when education is cutting back,
parents cannnot even punish there children
when they do wrong, kids tell there
parents what to do, their are not a lot of
jobs out there, you cannot stop a 12-25y/o
female from having sex no matter how much
you talk to them and how much education
you give them as they will feel that
pregnancy will not happen to them. You
want more families in the welfare system
when it is a strain now. You want more
children and baby's that are unfed,
unloved, abused, neglected, filthy, more
shootings, more crack baby's, more kids
drowned and killed, how sad you are, take
a good look @ reality. You will
probably say that they can be adopted,
their are a lot of adoptions that do not
go thru and alot of foster homes that are
pure hell. Yes there are alot of good
children and parents but there are toooo
many sad cases now. What little selfish
people you are, and then you want to take
away womens rights and choices, wow.
Sincerely,
sandy
sandy go look at these "crack babies" and
"welfare babies" and tell them that they
would be better off if they had been
aborted! Go tell those "sad cases" they
would be better off dead...As that is what
you are saying right?
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mom2trevor
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Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
Posted: 01-27-05 23:42pm
I've missed you too :)
had lots of computer problems...I keep
getting attacked by a virus everytime I
try to come here..
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foreverblue
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Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 01-28-05 02:10am
mom2trevor
wrote:
i've missed you too :)
had lots of computer problems...I keep
getting attacked by a virus everytime I
try to come
here..
wicked description of steen that mom lol
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foreverblue
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Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 01-28-05 02:21am
Go on you cowardly little racist,run
away,theres a man on the forum not just
women,they are your favorite target arnt
they coward.
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-28-05 02:56am
sandyallen
wrote:
foreverblue.
You think steen is the only Dr., that
cannot spell well, you must be out of your
tree, lol, and may I ask, how many dr's.
Have you worked for, why do you think most
of their work is done by dictation.
Sincerely,
sandy
sandy what the have sex are you on,steen
accused me of being illiterate and I
pointed out that he cannot spell,so how
can he call anyone illiterate.Do you
suffer,like the rest of prochoice,from an
inability to read a complete post,if you
had you would not of made a fool of
yourself with your stupid inane comment,or
are you agreeing with me that steen is
stupid,thank you
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-28-05 03:05am
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
you backpedal any quicker
steen and you are going to fall over still
no apology for calling me a liar when I
wasnt lying
ah, but you were. You
claimed that medline's information was
based on m-w, not stedman's medical
dictionary.
.
i claimed that medline uses m-w as its
medical dictionary,so no steen I did not
lie,that is your department,and once again
you prove you are incapable of reading
posts properly,and what a stinking liar
you are steen.It wasnt me who tried to
claim that merriam webster wasnt a
dictionary but a search engine,how
pathetic can you get.
Ahh but then again working on your logic
and if it isnt merriam websters but
stedmans,then that also proves you a
liar,as it has a definition for partial
birth abortion,you really must do better
steen<snicker>.
Even sandyallen thinks your stupid
<snicker snort>
you see steen that is the problem with
liars you get caught out,and boy you have
been caught out
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-28-05 03:15am
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
as a matter of fact ms rosie
I think breast implants for anything other
than after a masectemy,are
unnecessary,
ah, so you are enough of
an expert in that woman's life that you
without talking with her and exploring the
reasons for her seeking the surgery, are
able to determine whether it is necessary
or not? Amazing ability. The field
of medicine can use somebody like you, who
can make accurate medical decisions based
on only their own personal opinions.
Amazing. And here your talents are
wasted on a bulletin board. How sad.
Quote:
facelifts are
mainly done for vanity so no it isnt
medically
required,
really? For "vanity"?
And your research that proves this is
found where exactly?
Quote:
and as I have
said before im not a doctor therefore I
cannot say what is medically required or
what isnt,all I do is post my
opinnion
ah, so you are trying to
pretend that your personal opinion somehow
is a good medical diagnostic tool? Ok,
I got it loud and clear
now.
so mr racist you attack peoples oppinion
now,you really are scraping the bottom of
the barrel,but then again the u s medical
system must of been extremely desperate to
employ such a person as you.Why are you
worried about fanatics,are you an
abortionist,ohh whats the use you are
incapable of telling the truth.
Now as to the gradient of risk in
surgery,i was talking about not having
surgery.So you are the delusional one
steen,but tell me where I was wrong,or are
you saying that if a surgeon performs 3
operations in a week,he will choose to
perform abortions,rather than save a life
by performing heart surgery?.
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steen
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Posted: 01-28-05 12:19pm
foreverblue
wrote:
so mr racist you attack
peoples oppinion
now,
no person nitwit, I
merely disagree with you. Oh, but to
prolife stinking liars, that's seen as an
attack no doubt, as you losers are so
narcissistic and paranoid that anybody not
agreeing with you must be so wrong and so
out to get you.
What a incredibly' loser you are.
Quote:
now as to the
gradient of risk in surgery,i was talking
about not having
surgery.
exactly. You tried to
set a justification for surgery based on
various consequenses. As I said. What
a coward you are that you can't even stand
by your word.
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steen
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Posted: 01-28-05 12:22pm
foreverblue
wrote:
i claimed that medline uses
m-w as its medical dictionary,so no steen
I did not
lie,
yes, you did. Medline's
medical dictionary, the one it uses for
definitions is stedman's medical
dictionary. That is uses m-w as its
online search engine doesn't mean that it
uses m-w for its medical definition, oh
you incredibly imbecille person
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:00pm
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
i claimed that medline uses
m-w as its medical dictionary,so no steen
I did not
lie,
yes, you did.
Medline's medical dictionary, the one it
uses for definitions is stedman's medical
dictionary. That is uses m-w as its
online search engine doesn't mean that it
uses m-w for its medical definition, oh
you incredibly imbecille
person
hey the comedian is back and telling jokes
again,look person go into medline click on
dictionary and tell me what it comes up
with.I see you have forgotten to quote all
of the post again,but what do you expect
from such a devious person such as you
steen.Well I will remind you cause I know
you have memory problems,if medlines
dictionary is stedmans and not m-w then it
proves you to be a stupid lying person,if
you put partial into the medical
dictionary it will come up with a
definition of partial birth abortion.So
you imbecile not only did you not prove me
a liar you proved you were,what an
fool<snicker>
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steen
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:24pm
foreverblue
wrote:
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
i claimed that medline uses
m-w as its medical dictionary,so no steen
I did not
lie,
yes, you did.
Medline's medical dictionary, the one it
uses for definitions is stedman's medical
dictionary. That is uses m-w as its
online search engine doesn't mean that it
uses m-w for its medical definition, oh
you incredibly imbecille
person
hey the comedian is back
and telling jokes again,look person go
into medline click on dictionary and tell
me what it comes up
with.
what comes up is their
on-line tool for searching for terms.
That has nothing to do with the use of
scientific terminology in the information
available through medline
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:30pm
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
i claimed that medline uses
m-w as its medical dictionary,so no steen
I did not
lie,
yes, you did.
Medline's medical dictionary, the one it
uses for definitions is stedman's medical
dictionary. That is uses m-w as its
online search engine doesn't mean that it
uses m-w for its medical definition, oh
you incredibly imbecille
person
hey the comedian is back
and telling jokes again,look person go
into medline click on dictionary and tell
me what it comes up
with.
what comes up is their
on-line tool for searching for terms.
That has nothing to do with the use of
scientific terminology in the information
available through
medline
you total person wriggle all you want you
are well and truley caught you are now
saying medline are lying,because if you
click a link named dictionary then you
expect a dictionary not a search engine,so
then medline are lying,or so you say.
This isnt very good steen the site you
rely on so much is lying<what a
person>
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sandyallen
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Posted: 01-29-05 02:56am
I deal w/alot of children in the system
that feel they are unnwanted and unloved.
I do not tell them they should be aborted,
they tell me, they wish they were, I help
and understand them. You just want to
see more children suffer. Learn to read
and understand, please.
Foreverblue, I never said that steen was
stupid, so quit twisting words, I mispell
words and so do you, steen is smarter than
most of the pro-lifers here, obviously.
There you go again, judging people that
are on things, we have already been there,
I am on earth and reality, and fact, you
are just on a high horse, it seems.
Again, pro-choice means, choice of
continuing pregnancy, choice of adoption,
choice of abortion and understanding their
choices, so please, get a clue.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
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Posted: 01-29-05 14:13pm
[quote="foreverblue"]you total person
wriggle all you want you are well and
truley caught you are now saying medline
are lying,[quote]no, I am saying that you
are deceptive and lying.
Quote:
because if you
click a link named dictionary then you
expect a dictionary not a search engine,so
then medline are lying,or so you
say.
nope, rather you are so
incredibly dishonest that you are trying
to change your claim without acknowledging
it. The issue was what medline used for
its medical definitions, and that is
stedman's. What you are now talking
about is what medline uses for its online
search of terms. As stedman's doesn't
have an online source, they needed
something else, that's all. But the
foundation for the terms used in medline
and its scientific articles, that is
medline and most assuredly not m-w. So
that's where it stands. You are lying,
and you are continuing to lie and changing
your claim without acknowledging it. So
you are a dishonest coward, no surprise
there. Simply not worth my effort
anymore. Go jump in a lake. Or better
yet, go take an ethics course in the
dishonesty of lying when you debate. You
could use it.
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foreverblue
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Posted: 01-30-05 06:16am
[quote="steen"][quote="foreverblue"]you
total person wriggle all you want you are
well and truley caught you are now saying
medline are lying,
Quote:
no, I am saying
that you are deceptive and lying.
Quote:
because if you
click a link named dictionary then you
expect a dictionary not a search engine,so
then medline are lying,or so you
say.
nope, rather you are so
incredibly dishonest that you are trying
to change your claim without acknowledging
it. The issue was what medline used for
its medical definitions, and that is
stedman's. What you are now talking
about is what medline uses for its online
search of terms. As stedman's doesn't
have an online source, they needed
something else, that's all. But the
foundation for the terms used in medline
and its scientific articles, that is
medline and most assuredly not m-w. So
that's where it stands. You are lying,
and you are continuing to lie and changing
your claim without acknowledging it. So
you are a dishonest coward, no surprise
there. Simply not worth my effort
anymore. Go jump in a lake. Or
better yet, go take an ethics course in
the dishonesty of lying when you debate.
You could use
it.
i thought we were past the insults stage
steen since I was honest and apologized.
Here is what I posted,
well clever clogs what dictionary does med
line use,yes you got it merriam websters
no mention of what search engine or
anything.Merriam websters is a medical
dictionary,not a search engine.
Can you understand what I am saying
here,you open medlines home page it has a
link for a dictionary,not an online search
engine.If you click the link it opens to
merriam websters,therefore saying that the
medical dictionary they use is merriam
websters.
As medline is online what the hell did you
think I was talking about,i wasnt talking
about what they sit down and read to
answer questions,but rather what
dictionary med line<on line>used
