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mom2trevor

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Question About Viability
Posted: 01-27-05 23:53pm

Capable of life or normal growth and development; "viable seeds"; "a viable fetus"

okay so wouldn't that make them all viable? Because they are all capable of normal growth and development....
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steen

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Posted: 01-28-05 01:38am

"viability" in pregnancy is when 50% of the neonates are expected to live for at least one year.

Sorry, but this term does have an actual definition and specific meaning. Yes, I know that you prolifers don't like the specifics when it interferes with your pipedreams, delusions and wishful thinking, but there it is, none the less.
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FISHX

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Posted: 01-28-05 02:00am

steen wrote:
"viability" in pregnancy is when 50% of the neonates are expected to live for at least one year.


Sorry, but this term does have an actual definition and specific meaning. Yes, I know that you prolifers don't like the specifics when it interferes with your pipedreams, delusions and wishful thinking, but there it is, none the less.



now that is a down right lie viability occurs when the child is expected to survive birth not when a child is capable of living for a year you person,
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Posted: 01-28-05 12:26pm

Well, yes I was wrong. Viability is when 50% of births live for 24 hours. Infant mortality is the rates are what is based on one-year mortality numbers. My mistake.
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:01pm

steen wrote:
well, yes I was wrong. Viability is when 50% of births live for 24 hours. Infant mortality is the rates are what is based on one-year mortality numbers. My mistake.


woohoo!!! Good for u admitting you were wrong!!!!!!!!!!!
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foreverblue

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Posted: 01-28-05 13:02pm

steen wrote:
well, yes I was wrong. Viability is when 50% of births live for 24 hours. Infant mortality is the rates are what is based on one-year mortality numbers. My mistake.



have sex off person how come it is a mistake when you do it but lies whenever a prolifer does it,showing your hypocrisy there mr racist<sheesh freaking fool believes himself as well,delusional to the end hey steen>
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:27pm

foreverblue wrote:
steen wrote:
well, yes I was wrong. Viability is when 50% of births live for 24 hours. Infant mortality is the rates are what is based on one-year mortality numbers. My mistake.

have sex off person how come it is a mistake when you do it but lies whenever a prolifer does it,showing your hypocrisy there mr racist<sheesh freaking fool believes himself as well,delusional to the end hey steen>
stupid nitwit person. The difference between a mistake and a lie is that when the liar is confronted with the mistake, they don't correct it, they just insist that they are right regardless of the evidence and persist in telling the same stupid lie that shows how untrustworthy they are, just like when you falsely claim that I support homicide. That is the difference between us, that I admit my mistakes, you merely continue your lies, cowardly refusing to owe up to your lies.
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:32pm

steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
steen wrote:
well, yes I was wrong. Viability is when 50% of births live for 24 hours. Infant mortality is the rates are what is based on one-year mortality numbers. My mistake.

have sex off person how come it is a mistake when you do it but lies whenever a prolifer does it,showing your hypocrisy there mr racist<sheesh freaking fool believes himself as well,delusional to the end hey steen>
stupid nitwit person. The difference between a mistake and a lie is that when the liar is confronted with the mistake, they don't correct it, they just insist that they are right regardless of the evidence and persist in telling the same stupid lie that shows how untrustworthy they are, just like when you falsely claim that I support homicide. That is the difference between us, that I admit my mistakes, you merely continue your lies, cowardly refusing to owe up to your lies.


another lie steen you fool because I have never accused you of supporting homicide,this is too easy
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:51pm

foreverblue wrote:
another lie steen you fool because I have never accused you of supporting not a nice act,this is too easy
oops, yes. That was brianbay, I get the two of you mixed up. My appologies.
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Posted: 01-28-05 13:53pm

steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
another lie steen you fool because I have never accused you of supporting not a nice act,this is too easy
oops, yes. That was brianbay, I get the two of you mixed up. My appologies.


two mistakes in one post steen..... What's this forum coming to??????? Lol
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-28-05 13:59pm

You guys are all so immature about this subject.

I don't understand why you can't debate without calling people names, and telling them to medical question off. Obviously you guys arn't grown enough to be discussing something like this.
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Posted: 01-28-05 14:06pm

Okay this is what I found when I looked in the dictionary

1.Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2.Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

I don;t see anything about 50 %

also this is the law in kentucky...

"a viable fetus is a person under the state's homicide law, so killing a viable fetus can result in homicide or manslaughter charges, the kentucky supreme court ruled yesterday.

In doing so, the court overturned its own 1983 decision requiring a live birth before homicide charges may be brought. Modern technology now makes it possible to determine whether fetuses could have survived outside the womb, the court ruled."

this is on various news sites....


Also..Wasn't scott peterson charge with killing his wife and unborn son??????
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 01-28-05 19:05pm

Well it seems that everyone who disagrees with you is a liar sweetie, so no matter what I am always going to be a "liar" in your eyes.

This is the internet, I don't sweat over petty stuff like this. I don't care when someone thinks im a health forum, or disagrees with me. It just doesn't matter. Im never going to meet these people. Give it a rest honey.
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steen

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Posted: 01-28-05 20:00pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
another lie steen you fool because I have never accused you of supporting not a nice act,this is too easy
oops, yes. That was brianbay, I get the two of you mixed up. My appologies.

two mistakes in one post steen..... What's this forum coming to??????? Lol
well, in one tread, anyway. Heh, I never claimed that I don't make mistakes. I just owe up to them :)

if I never made mistakes, I could have started medical school many years before I did and be an independently wealthy neurosurgeon :)
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steen

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Posted: 01-28-05 20:18pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
okay this is what I found when I looked in the dictionary

1.Capable of living, developing, or germinating under favorable conditions.
2.Capable of living outside the uterus. Used of a fetus or newborn.

I don;t see anything about 50 %
that is why you are not looking in the medical dictionaries. I would suggest that you ask your doctor during next visit. He/she should know the definition used in medicine.
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also this is the law in kentucky...
yeah, well. The legislatures politicing of scientific terminology is not exactly helpful. In some states, "fetus" has politically been defined as "an offspring." as we are all offsprings from somebody, by those definitions, we are all fetuses and remain so until we die. Yes, "legal" definitions made for the specific purpose of abortion politics is really not that helpful for anything but political rhetorics, just as 'senate hearings" are not scientific and accurate either.
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"a viable fetus is a person under the state's homicide law, so killing a viable fetus can result in not a nice act or manslaughter charges, the kentucky supreme court ruled yesterday.
and that directly contradicts the roe vs wade decision, so it will be struck down eventually, just like the "pba" laws will be struck down because they are not designed for their name but rather to be vague enough to prosecute all abortions. As long as these antiabortion laws are designed for deception, they will keep on being struck down.
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also..Wasn't scott peterson charge with killing his wife and unborn son??????
yes, and that still hasn't been before the us supreme court. When it does, that will be struck down, the case will go back to trial when people's memory is not as fresh about it anymore, and he will be let off because there really only was circumstantial evidence. So thanks to a law designed to take a shot at abortion, scott peterson will go free eventually. That's what deceptive and roundabout politics gets you
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