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hawn36

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Children With Adhd And Odd Posted: 10-30-03 13:41pm


I'm looking for anyone who has experience with a child who has attention deficit and oppositional defiant disorder. We have a 6 year old that is now on ritilan to help him concentrate in school. When he comes home he is not on anything and boy can you tell! He is totally unbearable. Hes disrespectful, nasty, distructive and bossy. Time outs do not work as he kicks the wall, or just gets up. I refuse to treat him with medication until he goes to bed (aside from the fact that its not healthy for him) he only borderline listens to my husband and thats only because my husbands voice is very loud. Mine is nowhere near that. My son picks the weakest link in the house (me) and when my husband is out, proceeds to make my life intolerable. We also have a 13 year old son that my 6 year old torments constantly. My 13 year old spends most of his time in his room just so there is no confrontation between him and the 6 year old. (the 13 years olds choice, not mine!) i've tried talking to him (that works for 30 seconds), redirecting him when he is doing things wrong, rewarding him when he does the right things, but nothing is working. We've been to psychologists, psychiatrists, his regular doctor, you name it. I would welcome any advise. thank you!!! Hawn

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Adhd Posted: 11-16-03 17:28pm


How was your son diagnosed mine has had all the symptoms since he was seven and nobody takes any notice he is now fourteen

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Adhd Posted: 11-17-03 08:48am


Hi dorothy, my son was diagnosed thru all the doctors he had to see. When he was in day care the workers there told us we needed to put him on medication because they couldnt control him (he was 2 at the time) we refused so they "kicked him out" - then we put him in another daycare that supposidly could handle children with adhd and my sons other disorders. He lasted there 2 months and they kicked him out of that one too. It just seems that as time goes on, he is getting worse. Our home is very strict so its not like he always had the rule of the roost, however when you put him in time out for purposely taking a crayon and coloring all over this table and he keeps kicking the wall or getting up and saying things like "i dont have to sit there" then when I walk toward him he laughs in my face and starts calling me names like "ma ma - ramma" - its very frustrating. I told myself I would never say "wait until your father gets home" but sometimes I do say it and it works (for about 2 minutes) very frustrating!!!! Finding a babysitter for him if my husband and I ever want to go out is next to impossible. Nobody wants to watch him, and I dont blame them. We really are at our wits end.

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It Could Be More Than Adhd Posted: 11-17-03 12:38pm


I can really empathize with your situation. My son was diagnosed with adhd also. The ritalin helped some, but as he has gotten older he has become more violent. Recently he was diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Evidently, it is often misdiagnosed as adhd especially in kids. Also I learned that kids and teens can have both adhd and bipolar disorder at the same time... If your child has explosive rages, it may be more than just adhd. Or he may respond well to one of the all-day forms of ritalin. Good luck!

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Adhd Posted: 11-17-03 17:18pm


Thank you for your replies I feel as if someone else understands as no one has ever diagnosed him they just give him tablets for his behavior when he was younger but now he takes nothing. His explosive moods are terrible, does very immature things and refuses to even see a phsycoligist as he says nobody was interested before. He has been excluded twice already this year just for disruption, defiance and attention seeking.

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Adhd Posted: 11-17-03 17:33pm


Hawn36 i was glad to hear from you, in our house it is a complete reversal, I have a six year old who can behave better than my fourteen year old. The oldest one is the one I have the problem with but I am the one who he will take more notice off as he just answers his dad back so his dad has to take time out or it just will go on and on. But once I shout at him he will try to twist round his little finger until he finds out it does not work and then I manage to calm him down. After he has calmed down he does even realize what all the fuss was about and thinks every thing is normal. He does not realize all the fuss he has caused and thinks he should get no punishment.

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Adhd Posted: 11-18-03 09:27am


Hi kat7 and dorothy, its always nice to hear from someone who also has the same problems that you have. All my friends have very well behaved children and alot of times you feel alone in your situation as your friends just dont understand. Our 6 year old was tested for bipolar and I am happy to say he does not have it - however, he does have other disorders - on top of his adhd he also has odd (oppositional defiant disorder) which explains his terrible tantrums rad (reactive attachment disorder) and sid (sensitory integration disorder) all are mild, but all combined is like a nightmare. Dorothy - even tho your 14 year old doesnt want to go to a specialist to diagonose what is really wrong with him, you should force him to go. (i know easier said than done) once they know, they can treat him with what he needs. I am not a pusher of any kind of medication for behavioral needs, however, sometimes that seems like the only answer. Our little guy was kicked out of two daycares and once he started his 1st grade, he was so off the wall that he was uncontrollable, wasnt learning, wasnt retaining anything he was told and was tormenting the other kids so bad that he had no friends - we tried medication only as a last resort and it has improved his school life tremendously. Its nice to hear that he is learning about dinasours instead of being sent out in the hallway for half the day and learning nothing. You can email me privately anytime you need to talk. Good luck!

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Odd Posted: 12-21-04 00:33am


I think my grandson is add or odd. Where do we begin with testing? How do know if they are reputable? He is only 6 years old, but my daughter is afraid for her 3 year old. He is loving on her one second and then hurting her in a sneaky way the next second. My daughter is at her wits end. Please help.

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I have ODD, ADHD, LD, Dyslexia, Depression, Anxiety etc Posted: 05-30-08 04:08am


You may be mothers, grandmother etc. The best things for you the child in your life that has these problems is to talk to someone else that has the same problems. I was very very young when they told my mother that i have a long list of problems has now i am an adult living with it still and always well i found that talking to someone that has it help me, has now i am helping my little cuz that has the same but not all my problems, over the years we have become close, because we understand each other, talking to other person that knows someone is ok but you will never really understand because you dont live in our shoes. You dont know how it feels. My mother went to doctors etc etc they did nothing but tell her meds diet etc, i have been off med for years now, because really i dont think that meds should control my life or anyone life. Need to learn how to live in life, with the problems that you have, it is hard but then he/she can be proud that no matter what the problem is they over came it, yes they will live with it the rest of there lives but, i think that they would be happier. I am, imy mother was told i wont be able to live a normal life, because i am different, different has i might be, i am still fighting and well never give up. Stop for those who think that they know who it is they dont, NOT a doctor, teacher, friend or any one else can understand or even early know what is going on. The best thing for me was finding someone that helped me with little things to do that until today i still use. hoping for all the kids that have the same problems like me find someone that has the samething going on that can help them, understand them and feel how they do.....

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Children With Adhd And Odd Posted: 07-10-08 12:42pm


My son was labeled as ADHD/ODD when he was in preschool at about 4 years old. I had never heard of this before that. He is a great and loving child and now 11 years old. Life is hard. He is a smart boy when it comes to computers and such but he is mouthy and is always after his younger sister and hurts her. I always have to keep my eyes open when he is near her. Sometimes they are fine together. I have to be stern with him yet my arms are always open for him with lots of hugs. Sometimes he ask for the hug and sometimes I just have to know it. So angelic when he is sleeping but boy when it is morning it is another day of craziness. Mornings are a nightmare for him and late for school ALOT. Seems like the psych. doctors just want to keep dishing out the meds and I hate that. I want help and that is hard to find. We just keep going day by day and hope for the best. I find out that the schools only care about what is going on in school. I am always on top of what is going on with him at school and his IEP's. I want what is best for him. I have to really push him with his school work. He gets angry really quickly. His Dad doesn't have a lot of patients for him usually so I have to kind of pick up for that. My husband and I NEVER get to have time to ourselves and go out on a "date" because of my son and no one to watch him. It is hard and stressful so we just do the best we can. My husband doesn't even like to take vacations so we don't. I try to take the kids places they haven't been when on school vacations. I'm sure there are others that unfornately like the same kind of life that I do. I know in the when he is grown up that he will be OK and able to take care of himself as long as he keeps himself under control. That's the challenge. They say that people who are parents to kids as these have angel wings on their backs and I'd have to think so.