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lil_blaze2004

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Who Is..... Posted: 02-01-05 11:29am


Male here??? Female???? I am female. I just wanna know..... :)

FISHX

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:32am


I,m fem

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:43am

jlee77 wrote:

you know i'm female lil'!

:o)

no I thought you were a 6 month preggo man!!!!! :o lol

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:47am


Im male or I was last time I looked lol

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:57am

foreverblue wrote:

im male
or I was last time I looked lol

andi thought you were fem..... Hmmm...

I'm happy I asked this ques. And it can't start arguments...Lol

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Posted: 02-01-05 11:59am

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

foreverblue wrote:

im male
or I was last time I looked lol

andi thought you were fem..... Hmmm...

I'm happy I asked this ques. And it can't start arguments...Lol

im a man therefore anything can start an argument lol
what made you think I was fem?

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Posted: 02-01-05 12:32pm

foreverblue wrote:

lil_blaze2004 wrote:

foreverblue wrote:

im male
or I was last time I looked lol

andi thought you were fem..... Hmmm...

I'm happy I asked this ques. And it can't start arguments...Lol

im a man therefore anything can start an argument lol
what made you think I was fem?

beats me...I guess it's just like everyone thought fish was a man.

mom2trevor

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Posted: 02-02-05 02:48am


I am most definatly all female :) but I have to admit...I was confused about some people...I guess their named didn't sound femanine...But it's nice to know who is who :)

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Posted: 02-02-05 03:32am


Question does being a man mean my opinion on terminations mean less not to statr an argument or anything,theres enough of that anyway

Kourtney08

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Posted: 02-02-05 13:19pm


Seriously.. Some of these people that are male I thought were female, and some of the females I thought were male.. Wow. Anyways im obviously female.. Lol

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Posted: 02-03-05 08:39am

foreverblue wrote:

question does being a man mean my opinion on terminations mean less

not to statr an argument or anything,theres enough of that anyway

nope I was just wondering who was what....

SamiNSunisMa

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Posted: 02-07-05 02:39am


Well since I just had a baby and when I posted the most I was pregnant im female :lol:

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Posted: 02-07-05 20:42pm


I personally believe that the only person who has any right to say whether or not an abortion is the right choice or not is the woman who is in the situation of chosing. I don't think that being male means your opinion doesn't matter, but I think that if you are male, too old to get pregnant or incapable of becoming pregnant then you really have no say in whether or not abortion is legal. That my sound sexist or harsh, but really think about it...I man or elderly woman cannot fall pregnant from a rape (the rape would still be equally horrid) however, you cannot get pregnant from it and therefore should not be able to say if someone who does get pregnant due to a rape cannot have an abortion. The same goes from the pregnancy killing the pregnant woman, etc. Just my opinion though.

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Posted: 02-07-05 20:49pm


Heh, that kind of rules out many of the old geezers in congress. ;-)

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Posted: 02-08-05 06:19am

hotasfrick wrote:

i personally believe that the only person who has any right to say whether or not an abortion is the right choice or not is the woman who is in the situation of chosing. I don't think that being male means your opinion doesn't matter, but I think that if you are male, too old to get pregnant or incapable of becoming pregnant then you really have no say in whether or not abortion is legal. That my sound sexist or harsh, but really think about it...I man or elderly woman cannot fall pregnant from a rape (the rape would still be equally horrid) however, you cannot get pregnant from it and therefore should not be able to say if someone who does get pregnant due to a rape cannot have an abortion. The same goes from the pregnancy killing the pregnant woman, etc.

Just my opinion though.

sorry my opinion is the complete opposit of yours as I think that termination affects more than just the woman.

It also affects the grandparents and any siblings that the fetus/baby may have had.

To say that the father has no rights sounds pretty unfair to me as you can almost guarantee that if the woman had decided to continue the pregnancy the c.S.A would soon be after them for child support.

So you see if you look at it really in the eyes of society if not the law then the father should have equal say in what happens to thier fetus/baby.

This is only my opinion

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Posted: 02-08-05 06:32am

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sorry I do not agree with that only women should have a say in wether abortion is legal or not,abortion is not just a problem for women,are women the only ones involved in a pregnancy?Do you not think it affects the man when his wife\girlfriend has an abortion[i can tell you from personal experiance that it can have a devastating effect on the man}
i also believe it is a social problem and can only be resolved through better education and better birth control.This means educating male as well as females,because I am sure you are not just putting the blame on the woman for birth control.In my oppinion there should be a proper national debate and maybe a public vote as to wether it be legal or illegal.Personaly I do not believe that abortion should be illegal,unless there is new scientific evidence to disprove what is known today:ie fetal pain and viability,even then it should be medically allowed.

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Posted: 02-08-05 10:41am


Well forever blue.. Would you like it if women had a say in men's issues.. What if women wanted viagra or anything else that benefitted men to be illegal? What if women wanted circumcision to be mandatory or any other kind of male genital mutilation? The reasoning behind only women being able to decide whether abortion is illegal or not is because men aren't the ones who are going to deal with repercusssions of either option.. They might a little bit but the one affected the most is the women.

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Posted: 02-08-05 10:58am

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well forever blue.. Would you like it if women had a say in men's issues.. What if women wanted viagra or anything else that benefitted men to be illegal? What if women wanted circumcision to be mandatory or any other kind of male genital mutilation? The reasoning behind only women being able to decide whether abortion is illegal or not is because men aren't the ones who are going to deal with repercusssions of either option.. They might a little bit but the one affected the most is the women.

sorry are you telling me that women do not have circumcision,that sex drugs are not available for women,there is no such thing as mens issues and viagra and circumcision are not even close to abortion.Are you trying to say that your husband or boyfriend having a circumcision has the same effect on people as you having an abortion.As for the effect on men only being little I dont think so girl,i have been there and it is no little effect believe me.Men are a part of the begining and when the child is born,but you dont want them to have anything to do in the middle but will complain about it if he does not support you through the pregnancy.

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Posted: 02-08-05 19:22pm

fishx wrote:

sorry my opinion is the complete opposit of yours as I think that termination affects more than just the woman.

It also affects the grandparents and any siblings that the fetus/baby may have had.

once again, your opinion is completely out of line with the legal system, which clearly have ruled that grandparents, f.Ex., have no rights whatsoever regarding grandchildren, and thus much less regarding their childrens' fetuses..

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to say that the father has no rights sounds pretty unfair to me as you can almost guarantee that if the woman had decided to continue the pregnancy the c.S.A would soon be after them for child support.

it is the reality of biology. Until the man can be pregnant, he has no right to control the pregnancy.

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so you see if you look at it really in the eyes of society if not the law then the father should have equal say in what happens to thier fetus/baby.

nonsense. This is not the eye of society, but rather your opinion. There is no such consensus as you describe in society.

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Posted: 02-08-05 19:36pm

foreverblue wrote:

sorry I do not agree with that only women should have a say in wether abortion is legal or not,abortion is not just a problem for women,are women the only ones involved in a pregnancy?

they are the only ones whose body is involved and on the line.
If you give anybody else a say, they effectively get to decide what to do with her body. That is known as slavery.

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do you not think it affects the man when his wife\girlfriend has an abortion[i can tell you from personal experiance that it can have a devastating effect on the man}

sure it does. It affects homosexuals when legislation prohibits their marriage as well, and I must have missed where you advocated against such devastating effect on them.

And guess what. That you have the right to your own kidney has a devastating effect of the patient on dialysis who will die because he can't take charge of your extra kidney. He will die which is a lot more serious than you having emotional consequenses..

But wait, I must have missed where you insisted that he can force somebody to give him a kidney, even against their will. So you are *not* advocating anybody having control over other people's bodies *except* when it is a pregnant woman, when you then think that the man should control her body. Isn't that hypocritical?

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i also believe it is a social problem and can only be resolved through better education and better birth control.This means educating male as well as females,because I am sure you are not just putting the blame on the woman for birth control.In my oppinion there should be a proper national debate and maybe a public vote as to wether it be legal or illegal.

birth control? Actually, that legal battle was won as well, but is still being obstructed by the catholic church. Guess you need to take issue with their opinion regarding contraception.

Or are you talking about abortion? Why should there be a national vote on a medical procedure? There is no national vote on any other medical procedure or practice, including that of comfort-care only for neonates weighing less than 500 gram. Shouldn't you leave medical decisions to those who know what they are doing? What will you seek outlawed next? Plastic surgery? Amputations that are bloody and gruesome to watch?

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personaly I do not believe that abortion should be illegal,unless there is new scientific evidence to disprove what is known today:ie fetal pain and viability,even then it should be medically allowed.

well, it is medically allowed.

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