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Trials of the Visionary Mind Posted: 02-07-05 22:49pm
Trials of the visionary mind -
i know that most of the psychiatry field
is way off when it comes to understanding
psychotics. Shamans are right at the top
of the field. But this is a book in print
by a psychiatrist, except this guy
understands almost like a shaman.
I like to stay far ahead of the
psychiatrists - most have no way to get a
handle on me, and as the years go by, I
begin to feel invincible - 39 years old
and still free, haven't been caught for
being crazy in america! But then I run
into a book like this and it humbles me
because I realize I can be handled, i'm
just lucky most people don't get it. (now
i'm telling everyone about this guy but
i've already reconfigured my psychoses as
best I can to maintain the invincibility
of my irrationality.)
this is the first psychiatrist-theory that
rings true for me. See what you
think....
He started studying first-episode
psychoses in the 1950's; the book was
written in the 90's. He just listens to
people!
He says they aren't schizophrenic, they
are having "visionary experiences" that
last 40 days and should be listened to.
He says treat them his way with no meds
and there is only an 8 percent relapse
rate. Give them just meds and none of his
therapy and you get a 75% relapse rate.
He gets to publish books like this but
they're swept under the rug by the
"financial powers that be";
this one was deep inside a university
library, and i'd never seen it before
though I research psychoses voraciously.
Actually his theory of the psychotic
episode is remarkably similar to my theory
of "what is evil", except I say energy
gates go down and the demon world comes
out; he says energy goes down and then the
"psyche", the "collective unconscious"
comes out. (same thing I guess)
and how do you get the psyche to come
"inside out" like that?
Span discrepant worlds. Like your family
wants you to be "all nice" but there's
nastier stuff just below the surface,
or you change from one dominant culture to
another (or I create psychoses on purpose
by reading different topics back to back
and thinking about the relation between
them, or riding the subway and picturing a
deep jungle all around me, or reading
astrophysics while riding the nyc
subway);
the aztec civilization says all existence
(collective unconscious?) is born out of
"duality", their highest god being
ometeotl, or "mr and mrs two", who live in
omeyoacan, or "place two".
I would definitely want my doctor to be
familiar with these modern but little
known theories.
Here are a few quotes from the book.....
"yet in the view I am presenting a quite
different species of symbols (other than
rational) is at play in the acute episode,
not belonging to the realm of rational
functioning. Mythic symbols have in this
condition supplanted the usual linguistic
ones, and are being used to express images
heavily laden with energythereby arresting
the person's full attention. In the
normative state these images tend to build
up their own pyramiding hierarchies of
structure towards a unitary whole,
centered and balancing the opposites,
finally embracing most of the vital issues
of emotional living. There are, then, two
hierarchic structures: the ego's rational
system of concepts and feelings growing to
ever higher levels of abstractions and
unification; and the unconscious's
non-rational system of meaning and values
of ever deepening levels of imagery and
unification. The higher and the deeper
levels of symbols are counterparts of
eachother. Each creates its own
experience of realness, its own different
realities. The disadvantage of the
nonrational systems is that they are not
granted recognition and validation by our
culture and viewed as representing a
different reality, but only a defective
one.
"this model of the acute episode - in
which the "fantasy" reveals forms that are
not derived from outside but that express
the contents of the deep psyche - offers a
clear picture of a certain type of
concretization diferent from that of the
formal thought disorder of the later
stages. It concerns what is done with the
ideation, rather than the form of its
expression. There is no lack of
abstraction, but it takes the shape of
mythic images from depth, rather than from
the level of the rational mind's abstract
concepts. The concretizing is found to
consist of two persistent tendencies: one
is to identify with the most favored of
the mythic figures that make their
appearance in the visionary process; the
other is to project the unfavored ones out
into the surrounding world. Instead of
speaking of a vision or the felt presence
of a divine personage, the individual
becomes it; one is then the second coming
of christ or is the virgin mother or the
love goddess. On the unfavored side,
rather than recognizing the threat of an
overturning of one's system of beliefs and
values from within, one is the victim of
enemy agents or of cia sleuths lurking
outside the window.
"these two features, the tendency to
identify and to project, are responsible
for the impression of insanity in this
process. This effect is most unfortunate
for the fate of the acute process itself:
when it is viewed as psychopathology it is
thwarted from attaining its goals, while
if it were more aptly recognized as
spiritual in essence much damage could be
averted. For instance, if the need to
reconstruct one's world image within
becomes a mission to change the outer
world, one of two eventualities can occur:
if the person is highly gifted and
charismatic he or she might be given a
glowing reception as a leader of reforms;
if not so endowed, he or she might be
consigned to the degrading status of a
disqualified outcast. When invalidated,
one is seen as an invalid. A society that
is religious - in the sense of living by
its myth and attending to its demands -
tends to value its visionaries and regard
them as posessed by the spirit. A culture
that is dedicated to secular and
materialistic guidelines devalues such
persons to the point of extrusion from the
participation granted to the "normal"
people.
"the concretization does not follow the
lines of the formal thought disorder, but
concerns instead the way of relating to
the mythic images. These symbolic
configurations are highly dynamic and can
thus be very inflating. In our kind of
culture it is healthier to take them on
the symbolic level of understanding and
apply them to one's inner life. If one is
more than usually gifted, they might be
accepted as having value for the culture,
providing creative or spiritual
contributions.
"during my four decades of observing the
acute first episode, I have been guided by
the view that it is not a question of
impairment or damage but rather a shift in
energy. When a person finds herself in a
state of acute distress, in circumstances
that have assailed her most sensitive
vulnerabilities, her psyche may have
stirred into an imperative need to
reorganize the self. The deepest levels
of the psychic organism are activated, and
in consequence they draw vast amounts of
energy to themselves and away from the
higher levels. The whole field of
awareness becomes flooded with archaic
forms, the myth-styled images that are the
natural contents of those deep levels.
This condition represents not a flight
from outer reality, as a device to retreat
from unbearable fears, but a state of
being overwhelmed by inner psychic events.
The sense of reality shifts from outer to
inner, and she finds herself immersed in a
mythic world totally out of keeping with
the consensual one. If circumstances are
favorable at this point, the psyche may
embark upon its reorganizaional process in
its own customary fashion, yet so
uncustomary to our usual expectations.
"in this framework, therefor, the higher
functions are not seen as defective or
impaired, but robbed of their energy.
Even the physical organism is deprived of
its usual level of performance:
motivations to care for it drop away, as
nourishment and sleep are given less heed.
Remarkably, the behavior resembles the
preparations for inducing altered states
of consciousness by ritual fasting and
sleep deprivation. The picture is of an
almost brutal demand on the part of the
deep psyche that all the reserves of the
organism be commandeered to support its
urgent processes. It is not that the
entire organism is operating at a lower
level of performance, but that one part
only is functioning at such a high pitch
of energy that all the other functions
become deprived of it. Ronald fischer
prefers the term "hyperphrenia" for this
"high arousal state".
...
"the suggestion I propose, then, is that
in cases of acute episode of visionary
experience we must be open to any of
several possibilities:
1. The persons might be capable of
leadership in religion, social reform, or
the arts or sciences and their potential
contribution to society is making its
first appearance in a "psychotic" turmoil,
the righ potentials of which are being
seen at first only as expressions of
symbolic imagery.
2. Ther persons might be caught up in an
inner process of self-reorganization,
activated with the intent of releasing
hidden potentials for living an
increasingly fruitful life of caring
relationships and careful work.
3. The persons might be in the throes of
a disintegrative process that will lead
gradually into the downhill course and
chronicity of true "schizophrenia" after
six months.
"the first group needs to be left alone by
psychiatry and consigned to other forms of
retreat where the visions can be
tolerated, accepted, and appreciated for
their actual value, and thus allowed to do
their own work in nature's way. The
second group needs to be handled
sensitively without the negative impact of
"labelling" and without their identifying
with the status of "patienthood" in a
hospital setting, but rather with a stay
in a non-hospital setting where the
psychic process can be encouraged by an
openly receptive attitude to the inner
process and where medication would be
unneccesary or held at bare minimum. The
third group, because of the impoverished
state of our knowledge at present, needs
medication early to prevent damage to
brain functioning and undue chronicity, as
well as referral to a half way house or
board-and-care housing.
...
" to preserve the spirit in which the
episode could be most fruitfully handled,
at diabasis a message was clearly spoken
to each new client upon admission to the
community: "this is not a disease,
illness, or psychopathology. It is a rich
inner experience in a visionary state that
may be turbulent and scary at times,
sometimes nightmarish and sometimes
sublime, yet that's all tending to move
toward a goal that is favorable for a
better life. We're here to help you
through it."
...
"for most psychiatrists the difficulty is
that the psyche's way of expressing itself
is so unusual that we find ourselves
having to speak in an entirely
unaccustomed language and frame of
thought. In the alternative view, the
concept of the "acute psychosis" is that,
when we speak of a self-healing process,
we do not mean that the faults to be
healed are these unusual expressions of
the devices the psyche uses to attain its
goals. Instead, the problems needing
solution are in the limitations of the
personality prevailing before the episode;
the psyche is trying to break free of
constrictions, from a markedly negative
self-image, a rather impoverished
world-outlook, and an unsuitable cultural
set. The upheaval takes place in those
persons whose nature cannot tolerate such
limitations. The visionary devices set in
motion by the psyche therefor do not
constitue the disorder or pathology. In
the turmoil the psyche's process is not
what needs healing, but rather, the
healing is acomplished by the "psychotic"
process itself. The way we regard the
distrubance, then, determines how it is
going to fare, whether toward success or
faiure.
....
"interpreting any such image is not quite
to the point; it is more helpful to
encourage the expectation that the image
will keep unfolding its meaning as it
participates in an ongoing process,
especially in a very active "acute
psychosis". For example, when someone
enters upon the episode feeling that she
is dying and that she is back at the
beginning of time, I see the death image
as almost always signifying the death of
the limited state of being, of the
previous state of the ego, or of the
insufficient personality. It is an
appaling experience to undergo when it
actually is a "death trip". The
expression is no mere simile or figure of
speech; it is an actual coming to the end
of something and not knowing what is
ahead. One only knows that one is simply
losing many familiar ways to which one has
become accustomed, having no idea what is
going to appear to replace them. Hence
the experience really is like death, but
it concerns the self-image, and
hand-in-hand with that it becomes also the
death of the world image.
.....
"a most eloquent expression of this issue
is made by theodore roszak in "where the
wasteland ends":
"to be mad, as the world judges, is to be
trapped in a narrow and lonely reality.
To be sane, as the world judges, is to be
trapped in a reality no less narrow, but
heavily populated. But there is also the
higher sanity, which is neither the going
concensus nor the latest compensatory
excess. Its health is freedom from all
traps; its sign is the knowledge of many
realities. All realities are real: but
the (higher) sanity's reality is vaster,
more curious, more vivdly experienced in
all sectors, and more judiciously
oredered."
- so that's enough typing - you get the
idea. There is more, on why a psychosis
is 40-days long for example. And alot on
the cosmic center, the psychic center, and
it's call for renewal and prevention of
destruction. I thought it was so unusual
a tone in psychiatry that it was worth
typing up and posting.
-onderdonk
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xanlixanli
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Amazing!!^^ Posted: 02-17-05 05:37am
Wow!! That was really amazing onderdonk.
As a psychotic, i'm interested in the
author's works. Thanks so much for taking
your time to report this information!!
I'm so pleased to read this. I wanna get
a copy!! Cheers
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speedzup
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Joined: 16 Jan 2005 Posts: 15 Location: speedoz travlling circus
Cant Get Thru Posted: 02-28-05 11:47am
For some reason my posts to you are
getting refused,i dont know what the
problem is.So I havent been ignoring you I
just cant get thru.
I have little experience with the subject
of schizophrenia, other than a young chld
I once worked with whom I believe may have
been experiencins 'syptoms' of
schizophrenia at even the young age of
five.
With that said, I have always had a
fascination with schizophrenia and am
interested in exchanging verbal banter
with anyone who is seriously interested
in discussing the subject in general or in
specific.
I beleive the thousands of labels given to
people who some view as having mental
disorders is mostly for the comfort of
people who fear the unkown or 'unusual.
I have always held an innate belief that
people suffering/ dealing with
'schizophrenia' are not unlike pschics or
mediums who are able to clearly and
directly tap into other realms/ parallell
realms of existance. And that were
'schizophrenics' differ from mediums is
that unlike skilled mediums
'schizophrenics' have not learned how to
filter, decipher, respond to the
information, visions, voices that are
experienced.