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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 05:51am

steen wrote:
the problem, of course, is when this is done for outright deception, to try to make the zygote, f.Ex., look like a 2-year-old. Downright deceptive, downright dishonest attempt at emotional manipulation. If all you can do is base your argument on deception, then you really don't have much of an argument.


Especially when looking at an issue where the developmental stage *does* matter, such as is the case in abortion where the legal and medical issues are highly dependent on the developmental stage. In that discussion, trying for deception and blurring of the facts is downright dishonest; it is a direct intent to lie.







where was the lie steen or even the intent,are you telling me that in everyday life people call it a fetus?I was not the one that said it did not matter that was kourtney
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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 06:39am

kourtney08 wrote:
im sorry, but I don't see people going around calling their girl dogs *health forum* like I said, there are so many words used for other things. Who cares? This isn't even an argument.



no kourtney it was never meant to be an arguement just to debate please check the difference between the two
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Posted: 02-09-05 12:11pm

I always use "fetus" in quotations to be "politically correct" but to me it's my son in my tummy.
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Izzy

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Posted: 02-09-05 13:42pm

Political correctness is dead, its memory lives on in those who do not yet realise it is dead, but it is!

More and more people are waking up to the downside of political correctness, although it was portrayed as a "good" thing that prevented such things as racism and homophobia it also prevented free speach and provoked thought control.. "i shouldnt think like this my friends dont, I must think this way instead"

political correctness is a widly accepted faliure in enlightend circles.
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2ferano

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Posted: 02-09-05 18:34pm

Okay, call a baby a baby and a fetus a fetus. A fetus is not a baby. Thanks.
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FISHX

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Posted: 02-10-05 07:49am

hotasfrick wrote:
okay, call a baby a baby and a fetus a fetus. A fetus is not a baby. Thanks.





care to explain the diffrence between a fetus and a baby?

Please something better than the age old its all to do with time crap
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steen

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Posted: 02-10-05 09:56am

fishx wrote:
hotasfrick wrote:
okay, call a baby a baby and a fetus a fetus. A fetus is not a baby. Thanks.
care to explain the diffrence between a fetus and a baby?

Please something better than the age old its all to do with time crap
oh, goody. You mean that you didn't know? For one, the fetal stage involves developing the bodily structures that were laid down in the embryonic stage, whereas the baby is born and merely are growing and maturing. Actual development is done (other than the few changes that happens right at birth). Secondly, the baby maintains homeostasis on its own, while the fetus is dependent on the woman to keep its environment stable. And then there is the issue of the baby being independently locomotive, autonomous from the specific person in its feeding and removal of waste, no longer being dependent on using a woman's bodily resources. Those are the big ones
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2ferano

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Posted: 02-10-05 18:29pm

Um, just because someone had an abortion doesn't mean they should or do feel guilty. And who are you to judge the action of others? Are you the almighty one? Ok then, don't worry about what other people do/don't do.
And fetus is the scientific/correct term. It isn't a word that just certain people use to make them feel better.
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