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mom2trevor

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Judge Rules a Destroyed Ivf Embryo Was a Human Being
Posted: 02-08-05 23:43pm

Http://ww w.Suntimes.Com/output/news/cst-nws-egg05.H tml


a couples embryo was *accidentally* throw out and they sued.





Edited:--i can't get the websight to work but go to any major search engine and search the words *chicago court embryo human being* (that is what I searched and it pulled up many corresponding pages) sorry for inconvenience if link doesn't work)
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bd1012

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:39am

So what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a homicide case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.
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FISHX

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:43am

bd1012 wrote:
so what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a not a nice act case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.





so if not judges and the law then who decides?
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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:43am

bd1012 wrote:
so what.. Are you saying that he proved a fetus is a human being? It's a civil lawsuit and it's more like just a violation of contract I think then a not a nice act case and just because one judge may think it's a human being, doesn't mean it is.



but judges do decide dont they bd,or is this a case of well he cannot decide because it is not the decision you want
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bd1012

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:45am

Whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.
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FISHX

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:47am

bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.



human or non??????????????????

A woman cannot conceive a non human.
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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:50am

bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.


again back to the womans choice the womans right,go argue that in a different forum,but that is pro choices way isnt it if you cannot win fall back on *its our right bs*
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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 10:54am

bd1012 wrote:
whatever.. I don't care what any judge may rule..It doesnt' change the face that a women has the choice to abort.. Human or non.



did not a judge give you that right,yes in court cases brought by pro choicers,so why does this judge not have that same power to take away a right or call a fetus something else.
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 02-09-05 11:26am

Bd-- judges and the law gave women the legal right to abort....This is the same law that could take that right away...So you don't care what they think? So if you are really pro-choice you would care what the law or a judge thought.
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 02-09-05 14:07pm

"a womans choice" isn't an argument to "fall back on." im pretty sure if someone were trying to force you to do something you didn't want you'd use the line "its my body, and I don't have to." I know I would, no one in this world, will ever, ever tell me what to do with (caps) my body. Well, they could, but they're sure in for one rude awakening.
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foreverblue

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Posted: 02-09-05 14:12pm

kourtney08 wrote:
"a womans choice" isn't an argument to "fall back on." im pretty sure if someone were trying to force you to do something you didn't want you'd use the line "its my body, and I don't have to." I know I would, no one in this world, will ever, ever tell me what to do with (caps) my body. Well, they could, but they're sure in for one rude awakening.



so why do you use it when you are losing the debate
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steen

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Posted: 02-09-05 15:13pm

Another activist judge ruling politically, contrary to the law. What a surprise. Almost as much of a surprise as when the appeals courts strike it down.
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