Yet Another Errie Link Between Abortion & the Final Solu Posted: 02-15-05 07:32am
The two companies most actively involved
in the distribution of ru 486 are hoechst
a.G. Of frankfurt, germany, and paris'
roussel uclaf.
Hoechst is a huge multinational
conglomerate with 224 subsidiaries in 124
countries. It does $23.7 billion in sales
each year.
Hoechst is the parent firm of roussel, the
company which actually produces and
markets this lethal drug. Hoechst owns
100% of roussel stock.
But hoechst has a historical reason for
keeping a low profile in the ru 486
debate. It is hoechst's infamous
relationship to the i.G. Farben chemical
company.
Farben aided the nazis in waging
aggressive warfare and perpetrating crimes
against humanity by manufacturing zyklon
b, the cyanide gas used in the nazi death
camps. At nuremberg, in 1947, 24 farben
executives were charged with war crimes
and crimes against humanity.
At auschwitz farben exploited slave labor
to build the world's largest synthetic
rubber and oil facility. This
installation — dubbed "i.G. Auschwitz" —
was so huge that it used as much
electricity as did the entire city of
berlin. Over 25,000 inmates were worked
to death in its construction.
Farben also produced poisonous solutions
for use in aggressive warfare and in human
experimentation. At nuremberg, judge paul
m. Hebert focused on farben's extensive
contributions to chemical warfare —
"research, development and production of
mustard gas, tear gas, nitrogen mustard
gas, adamsite (throat irritant) and
phosgene." another segment of the
nuremberg indictment revealed that "poison
gases and various deadly pharmaceuticals
manufactured by farben were used in
experimentation upon, and the
extermination of enslaved persons in
concentration camps throughout europe."
farben produced the stabilizer for zyklon
b and owned 42.5% of degesch (the "german
vermin-combatting corporation"), developer
of this highly virulent weapon.
"when the final solution added jews to the
ss extermination plans, degesch profits
reflected the new prosperity," concluded
joseph borkin in the crime and punishment
of i.G. Farben. "i.G.'s dividends on its
degesch investments for the years 1942,
1943, and 1944 were double those of 1940
and 1941."
because of its extensive involvement in
such a vast array of destructive
activities, the name farben came to
epitomize the ultimate in corporate evil
incarnate. Josiah dubois, chief
prosecutor at the farben trial, considered
the defendants and their crimes so
malevolent that he wrote a book about them
titled the devil's chemists: 24
conspirators of the international farben
cartel who manufacture wars.
The complete dissolution of farben was
therefore considered an indispensable
means of assuring the peace after world
war ii. In 1947 a plan was formulated by
the american military government to break
up farben into 47 independent units.
However, this never materialized. Concern
over the cold war with russia and ongoing
corporate maneuvering proved to be
formidable obstacles. Ultimately, farben
was only divided into three companies:
hoechst, bayer and basf.
Since hoechst has not put the brakes on
roussel uclaf's worldwide ambitions to
distribute this deadly abortifacient, it
is imperative that the alarming kinship
between farben and hoechst be subjected to
widespread public scrutiny. This
consciousness-raising process should
highlight the following parallels:
1. Farben was the largest chemical
corporation of its time. Hoechst,
according to the business journal long
range planning (june 1990), has become
"the world's biggest chemicals business"
and intends to maintain this position
through an ambitious program of global
expansion.
2. Farben was a prominent participation
in the chemical war against jews during
the nazi era. Hoechst is a major
participant in the chemical annihilation
of the unborn today.
3. Farben made a momentous contribution
to the science of chemical warfare by
testing its deadly products on victims
selected for extermination in nazi gas
chambers. The contribution of hoechst's
subsidiary, roussel, to the field of
chemical warfare consists of lethal
experiments on and the direct killing of
unborn children.
4. Farben was the parent company of
degesch, developer of the zyklon b gas
used in the extermination of millions at
auschwitz. Hoechst is the parent firm of
roussel uclaf, manufacturer of the deadly
drug ru 486 capable of destroying millions
of unborn children throughout the world.
5. Farben controlled degesch's policies,
including the decisions to use zyklon on
death camp inmates. Hoechst plays a major
role in the policies of roussel, including
the development and distribution of ru 486
for use against the unborn.
6. Farben owned 42.5% of stock in
degesch. Hoechst owns 54.5% of the shares
in roussel.
7. Farben earned enormous profits from
its investment in degesch during the
period when zyklon became the primary
means of eradicating the "postnatal
expendables" of the third reich. Hoechst
should derive a considerable payoff from
its investment in roussel if ru 486 ever
becomes a widespread method of
exterminating today's "prenatal
discards."
people often regard nationalism as clear
cut evil due to the evil of the nazi
holocaust, people often forget that it was
eugenics and the nazi promotion of what we
now call "the culture of death" that was
the major factor that made the nazi's so
inherently evil. We must never forget the
evil the nazi's perpetraded against
humanity, we owe a lot to the jewish
people for making us aware of the evils of
eugenics, we must not let their deaths be
invain.
Today the same ideologies that made nazi
germany so evil still prevail in our
society and many other societies across
the world. We may have defeated nazi
germany but their ideologies have lived on
and spread like a cancer throughout the
world, the battle to free europe from
occupation was won but the world war still
continues, if wwii was the war against
nazi germany wwiii is the battle against
its eugenic ideologies.
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DVantMIKE
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Yo Izzy Posted: 09-23-06 11:19am
I support you fully, although I dont know
your standings.. On abortion, nor mine.
I appreciate your info and point of view.
I guess if someone asked me I would have
to say i'm pro life but I wouldnt want to
stop a hopeless crackhead (who doesnt want
to change) from aborting her child if she
chooses to live so irresponsibly that she
feels she needs to do so. That is her
choice, although she is choosing to end
the life of her child... And will have to
live with that choice.
I wanted to ask you what is the final
solution???
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Posted: 09-23-06 12:05pm
So you are referring pro-choice to nazi
and that is bs because we promote other
options as well.
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Posted: 09-24-06 05:22am
diamondsz
wrote:
so you are referring
pro-choice to nazi
.
original eh?! Never gets mentioned that
the nazi's actually enacted strict
anti-abortion (and forced sterilization,
very pro-choice) laws though does
it...Suppose that doesn't fit with the
agenda though
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Izzy
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Posted: 09-24-06 17:22pm
"i wanted to ask you what is the final
solution???"
the final solution was the name given to
the nazi eugenics programme that sought to
eliminate the jewish and gypsie population
of europe.
"so you are referring pro-choice to nazi
and that is bs because we promote other
options as well."
no... Pro choice is not a movment that
promoted or legalized adoption or keeping
the child, it has/had no need to promote
them they were and still are already
availible before the pro choice movment.
What the pro choice movment promoted and
continues to promote is legalised abortion
nothing else.... Granted they do not deny
the person the right to choose adoption or
keeping the child.
"never gets mentioned that the nazi's
actually enacted strict anti-abortion and
forced sterilization"
ah but now you see you have to relise that
it was deemd unpatriotic, ungerman to have
an abortion. They wanted germans to have
children. While at the same time they
wanted the jews to abort. It was legal
for a jew to abort but ilegal for a german
to abort.
A german woman was not forced to be
steralized but a jew was.
The distinction then was between jew and
german. Today its between wanted and
unwanted - but you have to remember the
german was wanted and the jew wasnt so
there is very little difference.
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Posted: 09-25-06 01:37am
izzy
wrote:
a german woman was not forced to be
steralized but a jew
was.
actually this is incorrect. It wasn't
just jewish people who were forciably
sterilized, it was anyone who was or who
had parents that were "undesirables" that
could be subject to this law (for example
those with hereditary illnesses or mental
health issues).
Also, the forceful euthanasia implemented
was on germans suffering birth defects,
not specifically jews (note it was forced
- pro-choice people who support euthanasia
only support voluntary euthanasia for the
terminally ill)