I know that according to the uk abortion
act of 1967 a child (unless would result
in death, etc) can be aborted up to 24
weeks - is the age range different for
twins? After all, you have 2 ages to
consider.
Thanks in advance - replies would be
appreciated asap.
|
steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 02-21-05 17:01pm
Well, the twin fetuses would be the same
age. But likely also (1) slow to
develop, and (2) likely to be born
earlier. So those two factors kind of
work against eah other. The only ones
who know are probably british
lawyers/barristers.
|
lil_blaze2004
Supporter
Joined: 29 Oct 2004 Posts: 6492 Location: ,
Thanks: 1
Thanked:0
Posted: 02-24-05 14:00pm
These are phone #'s I got for support and
questions in the uk.
Pregnancy advice
british pregnancy advisory service, tel
020 7637 8962/helpline 0845 730 4030
also foresight, tel 01483 427 839
life, tel 01926 421 587/helpline 01926 311
511
national childbirth trust, tel 0870 770
3236
arc (antenatal results and choices), tel
020 7631 0285
tommy's campaign, tel 020 7260 0188
wellbeing, tel 020 7772 6400
If you are considering abortion you really
need to look into it from all
angles....Its not just about the procedure
there are other issues you may want to
think about....Emotional side etc!
I had an abortion 2 years ago and I wont
really go into it, but I wish I has access
to information that I didnt then. The
bpas (who I went through) do give you lots
of info about the procedure, but they dont
give you much info about your baby and
emotions...How you may feel etc.
They are supposed to give you councelling
to make sure you have made the right
decision (they have to by law)....But they
dont actually give you councelling, they
ask you a couple of questions and get you
to sign a form to say they asked you those
questions!!!
Anyways....Just look into it properly, not
just from the abortion clinics point of
view because you have to understand that
they do make money out of what they
do...And even though they are open and
give you info you need, in someways its
biasted! (i could give you examples if
you really want to hear) pm me if you
like!
Good luck in whatever you choose.
Sarah x
|
steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 03-03-05 01:18am
Don't make blanket claims about all
clinics, though. Remember that the
physician of ten makes a lot more money by
following the pregnancy to term, after
all.
And also remember that the mood problems
from an abortion is not nearly as common
as the feeling of relief.
But again, it is your body, and as sch,
what matters is what you really want to
do.
|
sarahk
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Location: England
Posted: 03-03-05 05:14am
Steen - I wasnt saying this about all
clinics! Even the one that I went to
everyone was very nice, the procedure its
self was painless, the clinic was very
clean etc....But because they have so many
girls in and out all day long they dont
actually have the time to go into lengthy
councelling, but there are only two
clinics I can speak for on this (i went to
a clinic in london with a friend of mine
also). As for the clinics making more
money out of a continued pregnancy than
aborting I dont think that is the case in
this country. Abortion clinics are either
private or partly covered by the nhs...If
you qualify your abortion is free of
charge to you but the nhs cover the costs
if not it can costs arround £300 - £700.
We dont have to pay for medical care
throughout a pregnancy, even perscriptions
are free!
I was given some contradicting information
both before and after my abortion, I wont
go into it though, not on this thread.
But I do have my reasons for thinking that
some of the information is slightly
biased. (steen - have a look on the bpas
website about thinking about your
choices).
I have a few friends and know a few people
who have had abortions and most of them do
feel relief afterwards and hardly ever
look back!
I wasnt trying to put you off having one
done...I was trying to get you to look
into it fully because its a big decision
either way! (i think that ive got the
impression that steen thinks i'm trying to
put you off! But honestly i'm not..!) I
just wish I had someone there to
say...Block out what everyone is telling
you..Think for you...Look into it from all
angles!
Good luck! X
|
sarahk
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Location: England
Posted: 03-03-05 07:38am
Just been floating arround the other
forums and realised you are a guy! Sooooo
I dont really think that age comes into it
if you havent got a uterus! :lol:
is it for a girlfiend or friend you are
asking?!
I hope you find what you are looking for
anyways! :wink:
|
2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 03-05-05 08:15am
And some women feel both. With some the
relief overcomes the guilt, and with some
the guilt overcomes the relief. It
depends on the woman, and when making the
decision all of this, with many other
factors, need to be taken into account.
Good luck.
|
jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 03-10-05 14:20pm
jlee77
wrote:
"and also remember that the
mood problems from an abortion is not
nearly as common as the feeling of
relief."
i have a hard time believing this. I'm
sure it goes both ways but I would say
that more woman probably feel some sort of
guilt, shame, or sadness over "relief".
Just an
opinion.
an unfounded opinion. The american
psychological association has found that,
"well-designed studies of psychological
responses following abortion have
consistently shown that risk of
psychological harm is *low*. Some women
experience psychological dysfunction
following abortion, but post-abortion
rates of distress and dysfunction are
*lower* than pre-abortion rates.
Moreover, the percentage of women who
experience clinically relevant distress is
small and appears to be *no greater* than
in general samples of women of
reproductive age. A recent study showed
not only that rates of disorders, such as
depression and posttraumatic stress
disorder (ptsd), were *not elevated* in a
large sample of 442 women followed for two
years post-abortion, but also that the
incidence of ptsd was *actually lower in
women post-abortion than the rate in the
general population* (adler et al.,
2002)."
they further hold that, "available data
show that mean scores on psychological
measures are *well within normal bounds*
for minors as well as for adults who have
undergone an abortion. The data *do not*
suggest that legal minors are at
heightened risk of serious adverse
psychological responses compared with
adults following an abortion or with peers
who have not undergone an abortion (zabin
et al., 1989)."
what's more is that they also found that,
"freely chosen legal abortion,
particularly in the first trimester, has
*not* been found to be associated with
severe psychological trauma, despite the
fact that it occurs in the stressful
context of unwanted pregnancy. The time
of greatest stress is *before* the
abortion. A woman’s emotional responses
after experiencing an unwanted pregnancy
terminated by abortion are complex and may
involve a combination of positive and
negative emotions. Positive emotions are
*more often experienced*, and they are
experienced *more strongly* than negative
emotions, both immediately after the
abortion and during the months following
it (russo & zierk, 1992)."
more: "in studying responses to abortion,
one needs to take into account the
circumstances of the conception, as well
as those following conception. If the
conception is planned, the resulting
pregnancy is likely to be wanted.
However, changing circumstances (e.G.,
separation from one’s partner or adverse
results of genetic testing) may cause an
initially planned, intended, and wanted
conception to become an unwanted
pregnancy. The circumstances leading to
this change may themselves be sources of
stress and distress, and should be taken
into account in evaluating a woman’s
response following abortion. That is, in
some cases, it is the *unwanted pregnancy*
that is the source of stress, *not
necessarily the abortion* (adler, 1992)."
basically, after decades of study, the
american psychological association has
found time and time again that the
majority of women who obtain an abortion
do not feel any lingering or long term
negative emotional effects. Most
experience feelings of relief and
experience those feelings more strongly
than any negative feelings. The stress
in the situation is the *unplanned
pregnancy* and .N.O.T the abortion
itself.
However, I just realized that this is off
topic. Che, I will be e-mailing a good
friend of mine who is in the uk and will
ask her to get back in touch with me with
the information you are asking about.
be sure to check your capitalization
should you try to visit the site.
|
sarahk
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Jan 2005 Posts: 108 Location: England
Posted: 03-31-05 07:10am
I'm going to have to agree with jlee on
this one! :shock:
i dont believe the statistics, most of
those statistics come from reserach within
clinics, but also, alot of girls dont like
to admit their abortion was a mistake. I
know about 6 girls who have had an
abortion and only one felt relief. The
others can cope and get on with life, but
they occasionly cry and think about the
baby alot. I dont really think that you
can judge a womans feelings on a chart
from medical documents. Abortion is a sad
traumatic thing to go through, even though
a woman may feel it was the right
decision, doesnt mean she wont feel sad
and regret her decision occasionally.
|
FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 03-31-05 07:30am
I'm sorry but this discusion belongs in
the debate forum come on guys you know
better.
