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laura22

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Huge Crisis Please Help!
Posted: 02-21-05 19:40pm

Hi all i'm in desperate need of your help! Ok, here goes I am a young 22 year old christian girl, very involved in my church. I am very sweet, beautiful, kind, caring just a very good girl! I have my whole life in front of me ive been accepted into university planning on becoming a teacher :)
i am very admired, im very happy I love life I love to smile and so nice and friendly I make others happy! Ok here is my problem, almost 2 months ago this guy that I know who lives in ontario was visiting my city for the holidays. Well the last time I had talked to him was 2 months b4 that and I jokingly called him a playa because he said he was going to be seeing someone there and he had been telling me on the phone he cared for me, so he started swearing at me and I thought whoa this guy does not deserve my friendship! What an a**hole seriously. We had been together in august when he was here which was part of his manipulation. Anyways I have found out what a huge monster he is, he is all lies hes much older then me which I just found out too. He is supposed to be a youth minister, but I found out hes a liar and will sleep with anyone :( so he told me he will be seeing someone that was also going to be a police officer there. A week later we hear he knows a woman that found out she was pregnant and at first they were going to keep the baby, but then she decided to not keep it. My first instinct was it was involving him, even tho he never brought this up to me, I just knew. I talked with him on the phone and he sounded so upset and depressed. Then a week later and thats when he started to lose it and swear at me. So I see him when he is here at the holidays I was working at the mall and this is the first time I talked to him since then. My first impression was whoa he looked way different! He is fillipino so his skin is naturally dark, well it looked light and he looked way older, I noticed he had reddish rashes on his face. He started winking at me and I just said hi and I was really busy so I had to work. Over the next few days I noticed his number on my phone and I never bothered to call him back. I did talk with him once when he called and hes like you should come over now...And I said no, maybe we can go for coffee sometime. And that was that. Well unfortunately on the night of dec 29th, my friend who is friends with him calls and is like she wants to call him. I had hardly anything to say to him, and then he said to my friend, tell your friend she should hang out with me later. He was going back that night and hes like I wont see you for another year. I said well, maybe for a few mins. He comes by my house and I get in his truck, ( we've gone for a drive before without anything happening ) and he starts driving and I asked where are we going and he said that he cant leave the truck running. He starts heading in the direction of his parents house and I said no I dont want to go. We are in front and he wants to go inside, but I said no lets just talk here. Hes very manipulative and he said we'll talk inside. I never knew what kind of danger lied ahead. We went inside and immidiately he starts trying to kiss me and I kept turning my cheek to him and I said no your my friend. I saw the tv and I said lets watch tv! Lets talk lets just hang out! He said no we cant and we have to go where its quiet. He lead me past his parent room and into a room. He started trying things and I kept telling him no! Lets just talk! Hes just my friend, im being good and im waiting for my husband! I really didnt want him to be doing that stuff so I kept pushing him away when he grabbed at everything. I just kept trying to talk to him. Well he started getting mad started swearing got up and said he is going to start the car. But he came back in 2 secs later and that is when I got the most terrifying feeling in my life! Ive never felt that scared in my life, it was like he was going to kill me. I didnt understand because I thought I was in the presence of a friend. I will regret not acting on that for the rest of my life. I should have left immidiately at that moment, how many ppl get that kind of a warning. It would have saved my life. He sits back down and continues to manipulate saying I dont care about him blah blah and he wants to make love to me. I said no im waiting for my husband. The whole time I was there was probablly an hour of this without anything happening, it was pretty clear I wanted absolutely nothing go happen! I kept telling him to stop! He is very controlling and manipulative, and he got quite agressive. He said his neck was sore, and wanted me to touch it and I noticed it was extremely bumpy. His stomach was also making all these bad sounds, he had the worst taste in his mouth when he foced a kiss on me, he had this large dry thing on the inside of his arm and I noticed also he had a lot of dry skin. I noticed a lot of really bad things about him and got really bad feelings and everything just felt really evil. He shoved his hand in my face at one point, and well he took off my pants he went inside me without foreplay, just did it even tho I didnt want him to. He started manipulating and I asked so what happened to him and his gf and he said that they arent together because he likes me which is bs because last time I had talked to him he said he is going to be with her and focus on his career. I see now he is the biggest liar in this world, and anything he said to me on the phone was all lies he was just toying with me. I know he was wearing a condom at first I could tell. But at one point he stopped and I asked what he was doing I was really scared, and he was doing something to himself. I got the feeling he took off his condom and started thrusting again and I believe he ejaculated inside without telling me. He then said I was his prisoner and did it again and really started hurting me. I believe he ejaculated in me both times. And I asked him if he had taken it off and he said when? He is a really big liar. And I noticed there was a lot of stuff near my vagina and it wasnt from me because I didnt orgasm. I had really bad feelings. The next night I started feeling really sick like I was going to throw up, and then it just got worse over the next few days all the symptoms and I really felt like I was going to die. Night sweats, fevers, bumpy neck, fatigue, everything. My whole body feels like its being destroyed and im decaying. My face has changed I feel like im dying. I can hardly do anything and my brain feels damaged and my personality has changed. I am no longer that beautiful happy cheerful smiling girl, I think he has destroyed me, and on purpose. Like I said before I was with him in august and he was fine then, so I see everything now and im like omg I saw all these things wrong with him but nothing could ever say that he had hiv and that he was going to try and give me it! I called him asking whats happening to me, and he said he hopes I can forgive him and that whatever it is is something he had im just getting stronger and to drink lots of gatorade! I said I felt like he contaminated me and he said he knows he understands. Omg what an a**hole! I got a test after a month, but was encouraged to test again in april. It doesnt look good, my whole throat looks destroyed I look bad, feel really bad cant sleep good, everything is going wrong! This a**hole has ruined my life, and its someone that I thought I knew, that pressured me to have sex with him so he could give this to me! I dont know what im going to do.. My life was so beautiful before he did this! I see everything now, he said on the phone is he not allowed to get stupidly drunk? I believe that he did that in nov, probably after his gf got an abortion which he denies, and he never even told me about his gf! He admitted on the phone that im not going to like what he has to say, that he sleeps a lot and has trouble concentrating and thinking. He also is coughing bad on the phone saying that it started in january, but I have proof from someone that knows him that it started in november along with physical changes like the whiteness in his face and rashes. Omg I see everything I just never knew he was this much of an a**hole and would set to kill me just because his life is over and wants to bring an innocent girl with him :( now he went back to ontario and I think im dying :( and he set the whole thing up! He is a huge a**hole I think the biggest on the planet, I never ever saw this. If my friend never called this would never have happened! And worse part is shes friends with him so a lot of times I feel like she defends him :( please anyone have any guidance? I am only 22 years old, I feel like my life ended that night :( I think hes like 30 or something and supposed to be a youth leader! I live in a small city, I just want my life back the way it was! I cant live like this everyday, knowing that he knew he was sick and did this to me on purpose! :( I can hardly do anything, I dont look beautiful anymore and I had to stop working after he did this to me. I wish I had never agreed to talk to him, and even more wish I at least would have listened to my gut instincts! Nothing could tell me tho that one night would ruin the rest of my life, I fear I may also be pregnant.. I have the rest of my life , university , getting married & have a family! I cant deal with this, I am very beautiful and sweet, one of the nicest and sweetest most kind girls you will ever meet. Everyone loves me and yes I have a lot of admirers, he set out to destroy me! He made a stupid mistake in ontario and came here and just wanted to take my life just because! Before this happened I was going to start reading at mass, and im very involved in church, I cant believe this hes supposed to be a christian and a friend, I was manipulated tricked and decieved! Please help im living a nightmare I cant wake up from :(
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sandyallen

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Posted: 02-21-05 20:30pm

How horrible this must be for you! You need to talk to the police and someone in your church and your Dr., what he did to you was very wrong and he will do it to others until he is stopped. The fool has some very bad issues. Your friend does not sound like much of a friend if he/she is not willing to help you.
Sincerely,
sandy
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laura22

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Posted: 02-21-05 22:16pm

Hi thanks for replying so quick. Yeah there are no words to even begin to describe what a huge creep he is. I never knew he was such a liar either, and when im talking to him on the phone telling me all of this stuff admitting his guilt etc, I feel like im going to absolutely lose it. How can someone be so evil? I dont know why someone would set out to destroy another persons life. He does have major issues that I now see, I dont want to lose my life because of him :( I feel like I have been murdered. Like he took my life that night. If it does turn out to be hiv, I dont know what I will do. I am completely innocent, he pressured and took advantage of me im afraid so he could give me a disease. Its so hard on me and my family, I am so close with my mom. Its heartbreaking, im suffering tremendously and I keep replaying this over and over wanting to go back to that night and get out of there! I dont want this to be happening, I really am one of the sweetest, nicest happiest ppl you could ever meet. I would do anything for anyone. Things like this shouldnt happen to good people. Nobody deserves it, but to purposely give it to another person is unthinkable. I feel like I cant really function like I used to I used to work out 5 times a week, was being chaste for my husband and I go to church. Unfortunately there is evil in this world and I find out now will appear in ppl that you will not suspect. I never saw this night coming in a million years. I am a very trusting person, I thought he was a friend never ever saw this evil plan of his. The worst part is that I picked up on all of these things, all of those things I noticed about him I thought were really strange. And the feeling like he was going to kill me when he came back in the room, ive never had that feeling in my whole life! But thats the whole deception, its because I thought he was a friend. If I got that feeling and he was a stranger then yes of course I would run in a second. I hate it that that whole time he was knowing what he was going to do to me, I had bad feelings but because I am trusting second guessed it. I cant believe he did this I wish I wish I got out of there! I dont know what I will do :( he deserves to be locked up, any idea how to prove this is intentional? And I live at home, if he did infect me what should I do about my family? Will they be safe? I am so worried! I dont wan to die :( I didnt do anything wrong. It is a tragic thing to contract this sort of disease, but just imagine how much more horrible if someone planned to give it to you :( ppl get it because they dont know they have it and have unprotected sex a lot of times often with people they dont know. This guy I do know, unfortunately didnt know he was this much of an a**hole, and pressured and manipulated into it after telling him no a million times and he tricked and decieved by pretending to use a condom and ejaculating inside :( it sounds like homicide I dont want this to be happening I just want to wake up.. I want to go to the cops but I dont know how you can prove all of this, he is just going to deny everything because he is a huge liar.
He is a huge sicko, get this he even had been training to be a cop he supposedly had an interview the beginning of dec before he came here and when I was at his house I asked if he got in and he said hes not sure it can take a year to find out. But my friend found out through his bro that he told him on the psychology part he didnt pass because his answers were too slow. Im so upset.. Ppl like him just shouldnt even exist :(
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steen

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Posted: 02-22-05 18:20pm

What you just described was rape. You need to go to the police.
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apple

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Posted: 03-15-05 20:32pm

Hi laura,
i am reading your post for the first time and I really do feel your pain, nothing like this has ever hapen to me and really I am not sure if I would want to live after such a horrible experience.What you should really do is report this to the law and have that creep put in jail for rape and homicide.
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laura22

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Posted: 03-15-05 21:47pm

Does anyone know if he does infact have hiv, and he knew it and purposely ejaculated in me 2 times without my knowledge, does that put me even in more grave danger? Like would it make it even stronger and I would get it more quicker and have less time I would live? This is so scary :( omg I have felt trapped in my own body for 3 months now.. I see what he meant when he said he was going to make me a prisoner :( I feel so mad, especially because it would be intentional, and I noticed all the things wrong with him even before anything happened :( and I had a really bad feeling when he came back in the room, I will never forget that ive never experienced that in my life. And I should have paid attention to it, especially because I have been around him before, so im getting a bad feeling like huge inside like this huge fear I had to back away, I really thought he had a knife... Thats the kind of feeling. I am regretting this every single day :( I am so smart, and I knew something wasnt right and I felt in danger, but instead of taking the facts which were in front of me and my bad feelings which were warnings I believe from god, I trusted he was my friend. He was really there to homicide me. I see now he might as well had a knife with him, and thats exactly the scary feeling I got :( he knew he could get away with this because he knows me and knows I am so sweet and nice and trusting, he knows I thought he was afriend. He is the biggest problem in the world. And just basically admitting it on the phone, I cant believe it. When I got the results after a month, she said im wasting precious time, I keep trying to go back, and if only I could have gotten out. I dont want to die im only 22 years old just starting my life :( I go to church, im about to start university this is just pure evil :( I mean it just doesnt happen to ppl like me it cant.. This guy I believe is 32, hes just an problem that wants to kill someone just because. I didnt even want to see him, I dont want my life to end because of him I cant live with that, hes just such a bad person, has treated me so bad in the past, I knew I didnt want to talk with him thats why I didnt for over 2 months but he came here over christmas unfortunately. A guy that treated me so bad that I really hate and he came to kill me, I just dont know how to handle that, playing on that little bit of trust he knew I would have. I love my family so much, I love my life and was so happy god had me here for a special purpose and I was doing so much good, he is so evil :( im so scared, plus I have a feeling hes going to be coming back here and just raising more havoc. I feel like he hinted the whole enire night im so mad at myself. I saw all his symptoms that were weird, especially his stomach which sounded really destructive, which mine did after he did this to me. His neck glands were all swollen :( disgusting taste in his mouth :( he said how his neck was so sore, his hair was funny, his big think on his arm and dry skin, he said he wasnt working and I asked why and he didnt answer. Him telling me after how things seem like slow motion,, he was hinting. There are no words for this fool . Omg I dont know how to go on really, I really was so beautiful, so sweet and happy im sure I would have had the most amazing husband and the most beautiful angel kids.. And my career. Im so mad and I didnt even like him before this happened :( I live in a small city, I dont think theres anyone with hiv here, and I am a young beautiful girl, oh I hate him so much :( plus my family, what is everyone going to think? Ppl are not going to treat me the same, and if I do have it and I have to spend as much time with them as possible they are going to not like me because of that even tho an problem purposely gave it to me when I didnt want to have sex with him. And just shame and stigma that go with that, and even in death ppl would just be like that person died of aids.. Thats how you will be remembered. This is too much of a nightmare I wish I never talked to him in my life and I wish I was not nice to him that night and said I would talk to him :(
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dear7

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Laura Deal With the Issue- Not the Man
Posted: 03-16-05 03:08am

Laura
am 25, and I can imagine what you feel.
I feel sympathy toward the sort of experience you went through.

Am facing an anxiety prblem just like you but my advice to you, is stop questioning why you ever spoke to him, or why you had to lisetn to your friend.

The issue is now bigger than that. If you would like to consider the law given that it was rape, please go ahead. Otherwise he will continue to do this to many other unsuspecting people.

However if you feel too humiliated enough you cant speak out especially to authorities, its understandable. First deal with how you feel

its alright to feel angry, but the real situation that should be your centrality now is going past this anxiety.
How long is it since this encounter.

Prepare to have another test, for stds and hiv and takesome counselling. Centering your thoughts on why you even spoke to him in the first place only serves to make worse your situation and will drive you more nuts.

Keep praying to have more strength and keep him as much as you can out of the centrality of your thoughts. It has alraedy happened, you cannot reverse it so deal with the situation.

If it does turn out you contracted any sort of virus, that will be absurd. Hiv can change your life especially at the gae of 22. You have far too many hopes and dreams in yourself, but it can not change the way you live as along as you try to take care of yourself.

I will pray for you as well. Am in a similair situation. I had oral sex and also kissed an infected person and anxiety of whether I may have contracted the virus is stressing me but am tying to deal with my thoughts and not questioning why I did it because it does solve much. I would like the relief that I am not infected.

God bless
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laura22

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Posted: 03-19-05 18:32pm

:( I am so sad I dont know what to do..Im taking him to court for sure but still its my life and im only 22 I havent even lived yet. I am regretting not going to university for january and just even that I said I would see him that night. I should have realized it was too late, I told him that, but I didnt know he was going to drive straight to his parents house. He talked me into it because he said he was leaving that night and not be back for a long time. Im mad at myself, I didnt even like this jerk before this happened, for good reason swearing at me I knew I didnt want to talk with him again. I cant deal with a jerk like him possibly ending my beautiful happy life this is really insane. I still say if my friend didnt call him this would never have happened! It is so true I would not have talked to him at all while he was here. I hate that he knew I would be an easy target because he knows me and he knows I am so sweet and kind and trusting, and would never suspect he was out to hurt me. I am regretting getting into his truck because he started driving and I got weird feelings even then, and he put his hand on my knee briefly. That was a bad signal right there.. And I asked where we were going. I can see everything now, but nothing in the world was going to tell me ok he is going to take advantage of me and make me have sex and possibly give me an hiv infection, this was a week after I had seen him at the mall looking all different so that wasnt very fresh in my mind. Also it was really late and I had little sleep from 2 days work I just thought it would be a few mins of chatting but I was so wrong. I told him I didnt want to go to his parents house but he went anyways. A friend would have respected me and said ok and maybe went coffee or something. I believe he had homicide on his mind and thats frightening. I dont even like seeing ppl anymore because I look so different not very beautiful like I was , such a pretty angel. I would not be surprised if he called my friend and told her to call me, you know one last shot at getting a hold of me since he failed like 5 times while he was here. I should never have got in his truck, and let him control the situation and go straight to his house. I told him I didnt want to go inside, but he manipulated. This is too much of a nightmare :( god tried to warn me countless times im afraid, the feeling he was going to kill me like he had a knife, all of the clear hiv symptoms he had that I was aware of, him treating me terribly, but I still remained in the room not aware of what was going to happen. Being in that room was the biggest mistake, it gave him control and let him do this to me. If I had at least remained in the vehicle then he would not been able to do this to me, but again I thought this was a friend and he said we would just be talking inside. And he knew I had a bit of trust in him since he has manipulted me in the past telling me once that he wishes I would fall in love with him. He really is the hugest problem in the world. I never thought anything of him, there is someone so special and means the world to me that I was planning on marrying that I met at a church retreat 2 summers ago. He is the one I was thinking of when I said im waiting for my husband. He is in college in the states and I spoke with him and it breaks my heart because he even talks about getting married, and look what has happened to me. I cant deal with the fact I think im dying because of this jerk who wouldnt take no for an answer so he could possibly infect me and then torment me on the phone about it afterwards. I know this sounds terribly depressing, because it really is. Nobody should get this on purpose it is pure evil. I have plans for university and becoming a teacher and marrying my sweetheart one day and going back to the retreat this summer. All of my dreams seem to be taken from me. And I was about to read at mass. I have never heard of this or saw this coming in a million years. Omg I wish I never saw him that night! :( then he could take his scumbag ass back to ontario and die because of his own stupid mistake and not take my life! :(
this is the total opposite of who I am, before this happened I was always happy and smiling and laughing and so outgoing. Now I feel all alone like no one wants anything to do with me. If anything I am going to prosecute the heck out of him, but I still have to suffer it just isnt fair. I remember when I was in the room after he used a condom, after over an hour of me telling him no and stop and I dont want to, I got this really strong urge I had to use the washroom like really bad. That was another warning to me I see now because this was before he was about to violate me again except without the condom that I was of course not aware of. God really really was trying to warn me. I remember saying I had to use the washroom really bad and he said no im not done with you your my prisoner and he violated me. That was a warning even if I had got away from him at that point I would be ok today because the first time he had a condom on. Im sure going through his mind at that moment he realized god was trying to stop him. Im happy I have my faith at least, I still attend mass but I cry an awful lot because I have so much love and devotion for god, and im so sad because I feel like I let him down and ignored or didnt listen to his warnings. All because I thought he was a friend, but was the enemy. He thinks I was completely fooled and had no idea of what he was doing, but I did and im so stupid for not following my gut instincts and warnings because I fear it has cost me my life. I feel so bad, I even had warnings before this happened to me. I had a nightmare and I was paranoid of hiv even before this incident :( I remember just feeling like im happy im waiting for my husband, but a week before this happened I had food poisoning and got a throat infection like a little white dot near my tonsils and I started getting really paranoid scared what if I have it? And even visited the health center asking them does it look like it? Of course it wasnt but there was another warning of what was coming my way. I just never knew that a guy that told me every weekend on the phone that he cares about me was out to homicide me. :( you see why I feel so guilty that this has all happened to me. I had way to many warning signs, I dont want to live like this. I loved my life so much, was always so happy. I knew there was a reason why I wasnt to see him while he was here. I know that god saw what was happening and wanted to warn me that I got in the trap. I am feeling so bad nothing can give me my life back. I remember him manipulating me saying things like he wants things the way they were before ( hinting about himself ). He knows about my sweetheart that I wanted to marry, he was out to destroy that he doesnt want me to be happy. I hate him so much :( im scared im pregnant.. I went to the hospital after this happened but the doctor was kind of an fool and didnt give me the morning after pil that would have been much better. I live in a small city in canada, this doesnt happen. I dont want to be remembered dying young of aids or something what a shame in my family even tho it would be intentional thats horrible. I keep thinking about it wishing I never went in I cant get over this. Dear I will pray for you too, I really hope you didnt contract it. This is really devestating, I was going to go off to school and make tons of friends. And its a catholic university I was going to get so involved in ministry. How often do you hear about something so bad happening on purpose to someone so good?
God bless
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dear7

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Stop Beating Yourself
Posted: 03-20-05 16:40pm

Laura,
i hate to feel what you are going through. Its terrible that you feel your entire youth as been snatched from under your wing.

Howver like I said earlier, if you choose to take legal action against this man, be sure you have enough evidence considering that you did not see a doctor immediately after you were abused by him sexually.

Two: it happened, its a sorry situation- but try to pick yourself up and move. Regreting your decision to talk to him is surly making you feel worse and cannot be of productive use to your health and mental wellbeing.

Try to get him out of your mind and refocus on what you may do, or how you plan to live.
If you take a test and it turns out you picked an std or hiv from him, it will sure be a sad moment because hiv will certainly change your life- but again like I mentioned earlier, it doesnt have to change the way you live.

You have to proceed, if tested positive to find out your cd count and know how your body will raect to the virus, then proceed to find out the type of treatment you will need for your body.

I am in constant contact with people living with hiv/aids many of whom are workmates, friends, relatives, I have lost close people to the pandemic and I know that if you try to eliminate stress out of your system, you can live with the virus, looking healthy, if you are committed to taking medication, for more than 25 years. I guarantee that to you. More than 25 five years with the hiv and still looking healthy, going about your life, and working at living psotively s possible.

Hiv is no longer the end of the world, neither is it the end of dream and hopes. I agree that it puts a halt to your numerous palns and dreams but when you have it- you have to deal with it and continue to live! Its a choice that few take, but quite a better choice, to deal with it.

I fully understand that its difficult forgettin about the experience and what you could have done to avert it- but the fact laura is that you did not avert it- so stop beating yourself to it- it wont change much.

Find out what your health is by taking a test and another, to three times to be sure of wher you stand and begin to live.

My situation is much worse in terms of guilt because I had oral sex and also kissed two different people who I knew had hiv. The one had oral sex with, I dint know but sooner than later found out and the two I kissed, I knew they had hiv but went ahead and kissed then. I should be beating myself because I wonder how it will feel if I get to test and I have hiv without having sex with these people but through kissing or through oral sex.
However am trying to deal with the guilt by not concentrating on it but working on my mental health.

Keep me posted and good luck!
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Hopehealth

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Posted: 04-05-05 12:54pm

Laura report thisto the police this guy is a real jerk. I hate men that are like that! I am a 22 male and that to me is rape. If you need any guidance or someone to talk to I am sure all these people who have responded to you are more then willing to help.

God bless

my prayers are with you
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-themom-

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Re: Huge Crisis Please Help!
Posted: 04-05-05 13:53pm

Laura - from what I read you were sexually assaulted and you need to seek help. This man could be deliberly trying to infect people and that is 1st degree homicide. Go to the police, seek help - don't let this happen to someone else. It is horrible that we live in a world like this but - one person can make a difference. I know you will be scared but think of the person after you and give them a chance. I hope you will listen - I know of what I speak. When I was in school, I had a friend who became my enemy because I did not speak up. I was being molested by my father - because I did not speak up, he got her too and she continued to seek revenge on me for not doing anything. What happened was not my fault but not making sure he was punished was.
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laura22

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Posted: 04-07-05 09:58am

Thanks guys for all your help. I am in the process of an investigation with the police, but I mean the chances of him being found guilty of rape are probably not that good, it is of course my word against his. But I know because I was there and I am very upset of course that he did this to me, but also at myself for ever talking to him in my whole life. He posed as a christian, and a friend in the past but he was never my friend. I knew in the fall that he was really mean and had issues thats why I stopped talking to him. And avoided him the whole time he was here, didnt answer his calls and turned him down the only time he got a hold of me. I am way too nice, and unfortunately he knows that about me. And then he used my best friend to get to me knowing I wouldnt feel like I would be in danger if I talked to him, I did tell him it was late. I really really wish I wasnt nice and said just f off and go home. But unfortunately what happened happened. He just is so manipulating, like he pushed me the whole time as soon as I got in the truck and I shouldnt have, but I have hung out with him before in my past and at that point I just trusted like any other friend. I did not realize of course what he had in mind to do I just get mad because he knows if he said go over I would say no like I already did that week. I am upset of course with what he did, and how I may have something so terrible, but im upset that I let it get that far by not stopping it. But of course I trusted just like any friend, especially because my friend is such good friends with him, she was fooled by him too and unfortunately set me out with this woman hating a**hole. I really feel stupid about the whole thing because I wasnt talking to him before, knew he was a jerk, avoided him when he showed up in my city, turned him down, and then the last minute he tricked me through my friend. I really dont know what I was thinking. My brother has always been protective of me and hes like you shouldnt have gone out that time of night, I said I know because I didnt even want to see him I didnt care that he was here. So I wish that I did not put myself in that position. It happened I cant reverse it but I really dont like the way things are right now. It is a total nightmare I really dont want to have hiv because of an problem that set out to homicide me. I really didnt see that coming at all like I see I was in there way too long but I thought hes a friend I really didnt see he was out to really hurt me while being there in the room. I hate that this all happened, instead of going on the facts while I was in there, all the weird symptoms he had, and the danger I felt and like he had a knife when he came in, I kind of went on more like he could never hurt me type of thing.
I just feel like I let him destroy my life. It of course was not my fault, but I just see where I could have saved myself. I did all the right things, I was just in the wrong place. If I could only go back. I was in there telling him no stop and lets talk I thought hes a friend and im waiting for myhusband for the longest time like an hour and a half maybe. And then it just happened so fast, there was nothing nice about it. I didnt want to and I told him the whole time I was there but nothing was going to stop him. I was so tired too by this time it was 3am and I had worked like 2days with hardly any sleep. So my mistake was of course to say I would talk with him and that was just being way too nicei really dont know why I said I would I knew I didnt even want to see him :( :( and that I didnt like him.
Now to make things worse, I am pressing charges against him, well I confided in a priest that knows him, and I think the priest doesnt think he should be working with the youth anymore ( which he was only doing once a week ) so I think they let him go ( for good reason ) and he didnt like that so apparently has hired a lawyer to go against me and I have recieved a few phone calls and just yesterday an email from the lawyer stating that he has the right to sue me for telling his employer something that is not true. First, a priest is not an employer, I was confiding as I am a catholic, and what he doest from there is beyond my control. I was concerned for my health, so I asked if they noticed physical changes before he came here and they said yes. So he is lying a lot to his lawyer of course, and the letter says that he intends to sue me for slander and that he intends to claim damages. I dont think anyone could be anymore messed up or psychotic. He really really is. Its like ok he raped me, might have killed me and it would be on purpose obviously, (and im only 22 :( and now hes going to sue me for speaking out about an act of violence against me? Major psycho. I think in the email it said I have to withdraw an investigation I am already in. This loser has police training I think his course ended in the summer, but I dont think he passed because his interview with them was dec 3rd and I heard through his brother that his answers were to slow. So he knows all about laws, and how to set someone up really bad probably. And I think he recoreded a lot of stuff that was said. Omg I dont think anyone could be in a worse off situation right now. If only I had listened to myself at that moment, I just remember all the feelings I had I felt in like so much danger and I know now I can do nothing about it. I just never saw this that he would purposely hurt me, because he used a condom at first and then didnt :( and I noticed stuff and he said it was mine. And when I got really sick over the next few days he was all prepared and ready, and basically admitting what he did to me. Hes really sick :( god tried to save me from all of this mess, he was with me giving me that extreme fear and like he was going to kill me with a knife, but of course it would go away and I didnt act quickly enough on it :( thank you everyone and god bless you too
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laura22

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Posted: 04-09-05 20:07pm

And another thing I feel really guilty about, god was truly warning me even before. I wasnt with anyone since the summer but I remember like 2 weeks before this was coming, I started feeling sick and I got food poisoning and I went to the doctor and he said I got a little throat infection and I said is that all it is like I was really freaking out. I knew everything was ok, but I know god was making me really scared and paranoid for a reason. I had been at work feeling sick and it would start to worry me but I knew I was fine I just got extremely paranoid and I got really paranoid about hiv before this happened. I knew I was fine I would just get really scared and I know that was from god and he was warning me about what was coming my way. I visited with my health center and she laughed at me because I was so paranoid and we talked and I said im waiting for my husband, the last time iwas with someone was like 7 mnths before that. I said any time I would get a flu or something it would make me paranoid and I said its not worth it even tho I did not have sex with someone it still made me really scared thinking like do I have it? This was like maybe 12 days before this guy came to town! God was really really trying to warn me. And I really was waiting I told that to him , he just knew its going to be tough because this is someone I know, that I first talked to at a church conference 7 yrs ago but really only started talking to on the phone 2 years ago. He pretended to be a christian and a friend in the past, so I believe god was really trying to prepare me. He gave me all the warnings and everything! This is why I am going crazy, because even tho this guy was out to seriously harm me, #1 I had stopped talking to him, avoided him, rejected him already when he got a hold of me told him I didnt want to see him. I was still being warned, and I picked up on all the scary feelings and warning signs, I got so scared and everything but he pushed me the whole night from the moment I talked to him. So I feel I was warned before and while I was there. Its really upsetting because my friend that called, I even told her why, I dont want to talk to him :( so I wish I had hung up the phone, and not have let him manipulate me into talking to him because he would go back home. I made the absolute worse decision of my life, tho not my fault because I was so decieved, I could have saved my own life if I did not trust him, the one that was out to hurt me :(
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laura22

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Posted: 04-11-05 13:00pm

Just got the test done.. I have to wait about 2 weeks for the results, but I fear I already know. :( this is a total nightmare, and he is a total scumbag. A whole 2 mins of something I didnt want that at first was protected and then he tricked me and was not protected , may have cost me my entire life at 22.
Its a pretty bad dream, when my life seemed almost perfect before, I was so happy :) just the happiest ive been so far in my life, I havent even lived yet. But god blessed me beyond words, I couldnt ask for anything more. The most loving family, he had everything for my future :) hes opened up so many things for me and provided so much. I love who he made me to be, hes given me so much and I was doing so much good for him. And I really wanted to continue that. Me and my mom have the perfect mother - daughter relationship we are so close :) I really really dont want to let everyone down my moms precious beautiful daughter - hiv + at 22 :( true it would be on purpose which is homicide I cannot help but feel guilty for ever talking to the lowlife. I could have saved myself and its driving me crazy, I almost feel like I let myself be killed. I didnt want to be with him he knew that, I just wish everyday that I kicked him and ran the heck out of there. That is his mistake for being stupid and getting drunk and sleeping with someone from a bar, I have just found out hes really sleazy and while he lives in ontario he will try and do anything that moves - put it by someone that I know. :( I just feel like nobody else would have made such a stupid mistake in my situation. But then again could have. Trusting they are not there to hurt you, instead of the symptoms, and all the scary feelings I got. Like hello ive been around him before in my life and never got this intense fears inside. :( it shows me god really is always with us and just like god exists, so does evil and hes the #1 example. I miss everything about my beautiful life. I dont want this to be its too upsetting. I shouldnt have let this happen, someone I wasnt speaking with before and while he was here, and now gone again. Just with my life. :( I knew better, I am smarter then that, there is just no way to go back and its so hard to accept that from now on this is reality that the rest of my life may be very short and scary. And I mean , there is always the possibility that he may never even be charged - that has crossed my mind. Like what if he gets away with homicide :( this could have all been avoided. If I wasnt so nice and went out of my way to talk to him - I didnt even want to see him , hes not a good friend I would love to see so im upset. What goes through this type of persons mind, like how can they even think of commiting such an evil thing? Like thats so sick - im a nice sweet beautiful girl with the most amount of love inside and very much into church, how can he live with himself? I never did anything to him so im just like I cant believe hes so evil. He just has really bad woman hating issues and is taking it all out on me. I thank god that he tried to actually warn me tho I really do it shows me he was there with me. I just didnt listen/act quickly. But really I dont know what im going to do when the results come back I think im gonna freak out, already every night over and over in my head I just want to take it back and quickly get out of there. I know it doesnt help me, but its too hard to face reality. Id rather just sleep and close my eyes then face whats happening. Its sad when my dreams are happier now then my actual life :( I relly really dont want to have it :(
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confused_girl

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Re: Huge Crisis Please Help!
Posted: 04-11-05 13:40pm

laura22 wrote:
hi all i'm in desperate need of your help! Ok, here goes I am a young 22 year old christian girl, very involved in my church. I am very sweet, beautiful, kind, caring just a very good girl! I have my whole life in front of me ive been accepted into university planning on becoming a teacher :)
i am very admired, im very happy I love life I love to smile and so nice and friendly I make others happy! Ok here is my problem, almost 2 months ago this guy that I know who lives in ontario was visiting my city for the holidays. Well the last time I had talked to him was 2 months b4 that and I jokingly called him a playa because he said he was going to be seeing someone there and he had been telling me on the phone he cared for me, so he started swearing at me and I thought whoa this guy does not deserve my friendship! What an a**hole seriously. We had been together in august when he was here which was part of his manipulation. Anyways I have found out what a huge monster he is, he is all lies hes much older then me which I just found out too. He is supposed to be a youth minister, but I found out hes a liar and will sleep with anyone :( so he told me he will be seeing someone that was also going to be a police officer there. A week later we hear he knows a woman that found out she was pregnant and at first they were going to keep the baby, but then she decided to not keep it. My first instinct was it was involving him, even tho he never brought this up to me, I just knew. I talked with him on the phone and he sounded so upset and depressed. Then a week later and thats when he started to lose it and swear at me. So I see him when he is here at the holidays I was working at the mall and this is the first time I talked to him since then. My first impression was whoa he looked way different! He is fillipino so his skin is naturally dark, well it looked light and he looked way older, I noticed he had reddish rashes on his face. He started winking at me and I just said hi and I was really busy so I had to work. Over the next few days I noticed his number on my phone and I never bothered to call him back. I did talk with him once when he called and hes like you should come over now...And I said no, maybe we can go for coffee sometime. And that was that. Well unfortunately on the night of dec 29th, my friend who is friends with him calls and is like she wants to call him. I had hardly anything to say to him, and then he said to my friend, tell your friend she should hang out with me later. He was going back that night and hes like I wont see you for another year. I said well, maybe for a few mins. He comes by my house and I get in his truck, ( we've gone for a drive before without anything happening ) and he starts driving and I asked where are we going and he said that he cant leave the truck running. He starts heading in the direction of his parents house and I said no I dont want to go. We are in front and he wants to go inside, but I said no lets just talk here. Hes very manipulative and he said we'll talk inside. I never knew what kind of danger lied ahead. We went inside and immidiately he starts trying to kiss me and I kept turning my cheek to him and I said no your my friend. I saw the tv and I said lets watch tv! Lets talk lets just hang out! He said no we cant and we have to go where its quiet. He lead me past his parent room and into a room. He started trying things and I kept telling him no! Lets just talk! Hes just my friend, im being good and im waiting for my husband! I really didnt want him to be doing that stuff so I kept pushing him away when he grabbed at everything. I just kept trying to talk to him. Well he started getting mad started swearing got up and said he is going to start the car. But he came back in 2 secs later and that is when I got the most terrifying feeling in my life! Ive never felt that scared in my life, it was like he was going to kill me. I didnt understand because I thought I was in the presence of a friend. I will regret not acting on that for the rest of my life. I should have left immidiately at that moment, how many ppl get that kind of a warning. It would have saved my life. He sits back down and continues to manipulate saying I dont care about him blah blah and he wants to make love to me. I said no im waiting for my husband. The whole time I was there was probablly an hour of this without anything happening, it was pretty clear I wanted absolutely nothing go happen! I kept telling him to stop! He is very controlling and manipulative, and he got quite agressive. He said his neck was sore, and wanted me to touch it and I noticed it was extremely bumpy. His stomach was also making all these bad sounds, he had the worst taste in his mouth when he foced a kiss on me, he had this large dry thing on the inside of his arm and I noticed also he had a lot of dry skin. I noticed a lot of really bad things about him and got really bad feelings and everything just felt really evil. He shoved his hand in my face at one point, and well he took off my pants he went inside me without foreplay, just did it even tho I didnt want him to. He started manipulating and I asked so what happened to him and his gf and he said that they arent together because he likes me which is bs because last time I had talked to him he said he is going to be with her and focus on his career. I see now he is the biggest liar in this world, and anything he said to me on the phone was all lies he was just toying with me. I know he was wearing a condom at first I could tell. But at one point he stopped and I asked what he was doing I was really scared, and he was doing something to himself. I got the feeling he took off his condom and started thrusting again and I believe he ejaculated inside without telling me. He then said I was his prisoner and did it again and really started hurting me. I believe he ejaculated in me both times. And I asked him if he had taken it off and he said when? He is a really big liar. And I noticed there was a lot of stuff near my vagina and it wasnt from me because I didnt orgasm. I had really bad feelings. The next night I started feeling really sick like I was going to throw up, and then it just got worse over the next few days all the symptoms and I really felt like I was going to die. Night sweats, fevers, bumpy neck, fatigue, everything. My whole body feels like its being destroyed and im decaying. My face has changed I feel like im dying. I can hardly do anything and my brain feels damaged and my personality has changed. I am no longer that beautiful happy cheerful smiling girl, I think he has destroyed me, and on purpose. Like I said before I was with him in august and he was fine then, so I see everything now and im like omg I saw all these things wrong with him but nothing could ever say that he had hiv and that he was going to try and give me it! I called him asking whats happening to me, and he said he hopes I can forgive him and that whatever it is is something he had im just getting stronger and to drink lots of gatorade! I said I felt like he contaminated me and he said he knows he understands. Omg what an a**hole! I got a test after a month, but was encouraged to test again in april. It doesnt look good, my whole throat looks destroyed I look bad, feel really bad cant sleep good, everything is going wrong! This a**hole has ruined my life, and its someone that I thought I knew, that pressured me to have sex with him so he could give this to me! I dont know what im going to do.. My life was so beautiful before he did this! I see everything now, he said on the phone is he not allowed to get stupidly drunk? I believe that he did that in nov, probably after his gf got an abortion which he denies, and he never even told me about his gf! He admitted on the phone that im not going to like what he has to say, that he sleeps a lot and has trouble concentrating and thinking. He also is coughing bad on the phone saying that it started in january, but I have proof from someone that knows him that it started in november along with physical changes like the whiteness in his face and rashes. Omg I see everything I just never knew he was this much of an a**hole and would set to kill me just because his life is over and wants to bring an innocent girl with him :( now he went back to ontario and I think im dying :( and he set the whole thing up! He is a huge a**hole I think the biggest on the planet, I never ever saw this. If my friend never called this would never have happened! And worse part is shes friends with him so a lot of times I feel like she defends him :( please anyone have any guidance? I am only 22 years old, I feel like my life ended that night :( I think hes like 30 or something and supposed to be a youth leader! I live in a small city, I just want my life back the way it was! I cant live like this everyday, knowing that he knew he was sick and did this to me on purpose! :( I can hardly do anything, I dont look beautiful anymore and I had to stop working after he did this to me. I wish I had never agreed to talk to him, and even more wish I at least would have listened to my gut instincts! Nothing could tell me tho that one night would ruin the rest of my life, I fear I may also be pregnant.. I have the rest of my life , university , getting married & have a family! I cant deal with this, I am very beautiful and sweet, one of the nicest and sweetest most kind girls you will ever meet. Everyone loves me and yes I have a lot of admirers, he set out to destroy me! He made a stupid mistake in ontario and came here and just wanted to take my life just because! Before this happened I was going to start reading at mass, and im very involved in church, I cant believe this hes supposed to be a christian and a friend, I was manipulated tricked and decieved! Please help im living a nightmare I cant wake up from :(
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BADSAL

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Posted: 04-11-05 13:54pm

So do you have any updates? Have you gotten any help yet?
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laura22

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Posted: 04-14-05 14:57pm

I feel terrible, I feel like I just let him do this to me when I knew better. I had actual warnings, he thinks he completely fooled me, but I was stupid for not listening to myself and knowing I was in danger even tho he pretended to be a friend in the past god provided me with all the warnings and feelings I was in danger that I needed to save myself and get out. :( when I wake up im like please please be over and this didnt happen. Even my dreams now are that I have hiv. Im not happy when im awake or sleeping. I feel like such a fool, I know there was no way to see what he was going to do, but if I had acted quicker and because I knew I wanted nothing to happen I should not have been there for so long. He is obvioulsy not a guy that is going to give up. I have been in a situation before where I told someone no and they said ok and we just cuddled. I hear little things people say and its like it speaks out to me, I heard my brother say about his job what might have been if he stayed there, but just that spoke to me about my own situation. What might have been with my life. This creep knew he would be able to get away with this :( just yesterday I was thinking of suicide because its too hard to accept this reality, at 22 years old possibly be given hiv on purpose by someone you know who is just an problem. Its hard to deal with because I wasnt speaking with him before and didnt like him to begin with so I cant believe anything even happened. I didnt want to thats for sure. Its a nightmare. I was thinking of suicide, but I love my family so much, my mom came home and its like how could I ever do that to her ? But how can I live and be like mom your sweet daughter has been given hiv its so depressing.
And he is threatening a lawsuit right now if I dont retract I guess and tell people who I have told what happened that its not true or something. So he just created my whole beautiful life into a nightmare. If I had listened to myself at that very moment instead of trusting him. If only.
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filbygirl

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Hiv/rape Crisis
Posted: 04-14-05 15:53pm

Hi laura

first let me say that my thoughts are with you and what happened is just awful. I had a similar date rape experience where someone who I thought was my friend put a drup in my drink and raped me, claiming it was concentual. I was also panicked about aids as I knew that this person had slept around alot! I went for tests but I was so panicked. It took over my life and I was imagining all sorts of awful symptoms. Luckily, my symptoms were caused by stress and my tests all came back negative. I was also 22 when this happened and I had the same feelings of my life being over. I also did not report it, but should have, I regret that, but I was ashamed and afraid even though I know it was not my fault. But I am now 26, happily married to a wonderful man, have a great job and am very happy. This can still all work out for you. When you get your test results you just need be strong no matter what the results are, stop balming yourself. If it is positive, then that is awful, but you will be strong and you will deal with it. If it is negative, then you can thank god and get on with life and try to put this whole nightmare behind you. Laura, I will be thinking about you and praying for you. Please keep us all posted and let us know when you get your test results. Take care and god bless.
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laura22

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Posted: 04-15-05 13:33pm

Hi thank you all for your thoughts and prayers :)

filbygirl im really happy everything worked out so well for you and happy that your now happily married :) that was my plan in the next few years after university, I already met the man I want to marry :) and we have talked about it and hes the most special most amazing guy in the world we have yet to share our first kiss even and we met 2 years ago at church. He is the sweetest guy and so romantic and funny and charming and happy and so full of love. We are a perfect match and just it was love at first sight :) I have been dreaming of going to see him for a while hes at college but would like to transfer to the same school as me. I just know he is the one for me we both knew right away :) he said where have I been all his life im his other half like I complete him hes such a sweetie! Date rape is a really bad thing and I dont think anyone should have to go through. It just bugs me that he knew I didnt want to and I was there for so long telling him no. I just should have used my head and noticed when hes not really giving up and im telling him to stop, then its time for me to get up and get out :)
i have learned from this that no matter who you are with, your feelings are your feelings and they are definitely telling you something. My feelings said I was in danger, even tho I have hung out with him before and never got those feelings, so obviously there is something wrong. I really wanted nothing to happen and I just remember after like all that time and me just wanting to sleep I was so tired, and thinking he was a friend I never saw this. He just kind of attacked and it happened so quickly and I was so scared and uneasy about the whole thing like I hope nothing happens, because I remembered all these weird things about him. I know he had one on at first so I didnt realize he took it off and I wanted to go I even had to use the washroom and he says no hes going to make me his prisoner and had me pinned down. I know I was trying to be saved by god once again before it was too late. When he said that to me I was really kind of scared like hes acting really weird and I see what he meant by that comment. It meant hes going to kill me. I know this could have all been prevented if I had not trusted. People in my community all know him because he is originally from here, just moved to ontario a few years ago and visits. It is said that he kind of puts on a christian act when he comes here and then does god knows what when he goes back home, things like occult etc. And is supposed to be a youth minister, tho no longer because I let his priest know what he is like. Also someone has recently approached me and let me know that this happened to them by this guy, when she was very very very young like 13. So he would have been 23 at the time :( I couldnt believe it I was so disgusted. He has a major problem, I wish I knew all this before it happened to me. I didnt know he had such problems, he will basically do anything. So him being from ontario he was sleeping around a lot which I had no idea. But what I just found out I was so shocked, its possible it might have been consentual or just really pressured with her, but that is rape. So looks like everyone in the community is about to back me up, people are asking about me and they say that he better not show his face around here again. Also a young christian friend recently admitted they were with him one day and he was digging in his pocket and he goes, oh is that a condom in my pocket, whoops. And hes supposed to be involved in church and he said this to a youth. Hes so sick, and hes like 10 years older then all of us. It was against my will, and unfortunately I believe he did much worse to me. I got very sick and he admitted it all when I called him about it. So he is the type that will go and sleep with girls from bars and I had no idea. I just never saw this coming, didnt think agreeing to talk to him was going to lead to this. I was right with my feelings tho, knowing to say I dont want to go anywhere and dont want to go inside. That was taking precaution and knowing I dont want to be alone with him. Just wish the rest didnt happen :( I actually had a good dream last night I was with the guy that I love and we were together and he was telling me how hes falling in love with me :) it made me happy and I just really really wish that this never happened and I can still be with him because I was waiting for him :)
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laura22

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Posted: 04-18-05 15:10pm

I think that has to be the worst crime doing that to someone on purpose, because they are already going to die and they just want to kill and take someone else with them. For nothing :( like thats just the most evil thing in the world. Its really really awful :( I just wish I could have avoided this whole situation and had gone to school when I got accepted and that I never saw him while he was here because that was his plan the whole week and I was able to avoid him the whole time. Its too depressing :( it just happend so quickly after protesting the whole time. I already can tell it is thats why im so upset. My plans were the retreat this summer and then school in the fall and join my friends and make tons of more friends :) now it doesnt look like that will be. He is a nightmare and it was just like that. There was no way to know he was going to try and homicide me. I just knew that I didnt want anything to happen and made it known the whole time I was there. So im like I wish I had not been there for this to happen. Its just way too much im only 22 you dont do this tosomeone who hasnt even had the chance to live yet :( I have way too much to experience and see in my life to have it over already.
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