BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
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Posted: 03-25-05 07:59am
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unbreakable88
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 14 Location: VA, USA
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Posted: 03-25-05 15:07pm
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All I gotta say is..Wow lol i'm reading
what everyone else has said after i've
said what I said earlier (wow that was
confusing to say lol) but maybe u should
wait..Till your financially able to take
care of ur kid..I mean I still ment what I
said before but well to me it isnt about
having to rely on other people for money
or taking someone elses money, cos I got
my first job a few weeks ago and my money
thats taken out for taxes isnt alot but I
dunno maybe cos i'm young I dont really
care where it goes for, aslong as I get
paid the amount I worked for but me
personally I know how it is growing up on
welfare and stuff..But my mom didnt have
me intentionally and we didnt really
depend on that to get us through cos we
had family and family helps each other out
so yeah...But yeah u did ask for
opinions..Granted some of them might have
been a bit rude but u did ask for them and
i'm not taking sides or nothin I mean its
cool if u wanna stay home with ur kids and
all and that u dont wanna use daycare and
such..But couldnt u get someone in ur
family to watch ur kids or ur fiances?
...Btw I was jumpin around abit in the
post so I hope yall can understand what
i'm sayin lol
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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the Article You Quoted
Posted: 03-25-05 16:27pm
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That article wasn't talking about people
conceiving a child knowing they cannot
afford it. That was referring to exactly
what it stated....No matter how long you
have been with your partner, how old the
other children are, etc. No one is
saying you have to wait until you are
independantly wealthy or a millionaire.
But, if you had any respect for yourself,
your family, and the working people of the
world then you would wait until you at
least could afford to feed your child.
To the above post...Yes, the taxes taken
out of your paycheck don't seem to be an
absolutely huge amount. But, all of that
money throughout a year, decade or
lifetime adds up to a very large sum.
And, if you think about how many people
are contributing to these taxes, that is
when you see exactly how much money is
being used to support people who could
have avoided needing it. I don't mind
helping those who do need it, although I
feel it should be optional (as if that
will ever happen!Lol), but it is wrong for
someone to plan a baby knowing they can't
afford it, but others will pay for it.
Anyway, just some food for thought.
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unbreakable88
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 30 Dec 2004 Posts: 14 Location: VA, USA
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Posted: 03-25-05 18:26pm
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Ok I see your point now..Well i've seen it
all along lol but now its making more
sense to me lol
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-25-05 20:55pm
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All that I am trying to say is if a
pereson could never afford a baby does
that mean that they shouldn't be allowed
to ever have one ?
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xLove x Lostx
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 127 Location: Pompano Beach, FL
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Posted: 03-25-05 21:41pm
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Omfg lady, you're getting me really angry
and I was going to be nicer about this but
I think you're a dumb health forum. Why
dont you stfu and go have doing it kids
you stupid lazy bum. Dont ask us for
advice if you're going to go and do the
total opposite. Ugh..People like you make
me sick. You never said that if a person
that couldnt afford kids doesnt mean they
shouldnt have them because we never said
that either. That article you posted is
just contradicting your original post
asking us if you should.
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mandilyn
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 16 Feb 2005 Posts: 158 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-25-05 22:59pm
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Well, we live in the same state...So I
guess you're spending my money! That
sucks b/c I work really hard for my
money!!
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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to Xlove X Lostx
Posted: 03-25-05 23:21pm
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Must suck to run out of inteligent things
to say.....
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xLove x Lostx
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Nov 2004 Posts: 127 Location: Pompano Beach, FL
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Posted: 03-26-05 02:31am
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Omg shut up..Stop posting..No one cares
anymore..Go fxck and have a kid..This post
ends it for me..Stop being a comment wh.Re
and get offline and have that kid..Good
luck to ya.
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-26-05 23:30pm
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My body...My choice...My baby......
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Michelle1337
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Aug 2004 Posts: 1739 Location: Houston, Texas
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Posted: 03-27-05 02:48am
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I am probably way late but I am not gonna
bother trying to read this whole post.
So I am just gonna stem off of your
original.
I totally understand your desire to have
another child. But those programs such
as wic and other such things are designed
for people who cannot afford a child in
anyway.
Think about it like this, for every person
who can make it on their own there is more
for the people who can't. For example,
people like ka really need wic because she
is only 14 and can't even get a job.
She is on wic because she accidentally got
pregnant and in no way can support her and
baby kaila without it. Ka needs wic but
for every person that takes advantage of
it there is another person who really
needs it that can't get it.
And honestly, don't say you wont ever be
able too. I am only 17 and i'm a mother
and I support my child by myself (without
wic or anything else) only working part
time. Yes I know, I only have one but
that's why I don't plan on having another
any time soon.
I just wish that you would reconsider.
You're still young and have so much of
your life left to have children. Why
not wait until you are married and know
you can support another child?
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-27-05 10:13am
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I may already be pregnant......... :d
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 03-27-05 18:07pm
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Oh yay! Great that you didn't even take
the time to consider what you were doing
before you conceived. Someone should
contact the welfare office in your area
and give them a copy of this thread so
they know you could have avoided this
whole situation.
My body, my baby my choice? what?
Yeah, if it were you who was going to
support the baby. When you are getting
pregnant to have others feed your kid then
really it shouldn't be your choice.
As I said before if you had a health
reason for having this baby now instead of
later, ok. If you were disabled in some
way that kept you from working altogether
and wanted a baby then o.K. Although, if
you were too disabled to work then you
would be too disabled to care for a child
also. Or if you had gotten pregnant on
birth control and with condoms, then o.K.
But to conceive on purpose knowing that
you won't get off of your butt and get a
job to support your kid, but rely on
others to do it. I don't know how you
look yourself in the mirror.
"if a person can never afford to have a
baby then should they have a baby
anyway?." if they worked at least 50
hours a week, went to school to better
themselves and for some reason still could
never make enough to have a baby then I
would say maybe, but how would they care
for it? Is it really right that someone
can just quit working and have babies for
others to support? Is it right that they
work and have the state pay even more
money for childcare on top of everything
else they would be paying?
I think any good parent would wait until
they could at least afford to feed their
child. Bringing a child into this world
on purpose knowing you can't even afford
to feed it isn't a sign of good parenting
skills. In fact, it is actually child
endangerment, soon to be neglect. What
happens if they change the requirements in
your state and they will no longer feed
and insure your baby? Then what? You
still haven't answered that question.
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-27-05 21:28pm
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Then I would find a way..... I have
people that could help but they know I can
get assistance and feel thats the better
way to go. In fact I am involved in a
state program that helps you with your
child and my case worker agrees with what
i'm doing......
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 03-28-05 00:37am
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Well then your case worker needs fired.
That is not what the system was designed
for. She/he of all people knows exactly
who should and shouldn't get and use
welfare of any kind, and she should be
turned in for fraud.
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
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Posted: 03-28-05 03:27am
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And if you have people who will help you
willingly, why don't you have those people
help you instead of taking funding from
people who don't have anyone else to help
them?
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BrianBaby
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Jan 2005 Posts: 1383
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Posted: 03-28-05 08:03am
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| babymamahr01
wrote: | | i may already be
pregnant.........
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wow, I hope you don't raise your children
with that childish attitude....Really,
grow up. Noone here cares if your
pregnant, we just don't want to have to
pay for it. So go have your baby and
raise it on welfare, and off of other
peoples hard earned money. Teach your
kids to do the same, and to work hard at
nothing in life, because those are the
morals you are displaying right now....
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
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Posted: 03-28-05 18:30pm
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tr> | and don't home
school your kid she may be smart and doing
good at home with you but she needs to be
around other kids. She needs the chance
to go out and learn with other kids. If
you are really raising here right no
matter who she is around they will not be
a bad influence on her.
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don't tell someone how to raise their kid.
Thats not right. You may think
homeschooling is wrong, but how dare you
tell someone 'don't home school your
child.' thats out of line.
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-28-05 19:32pm
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First off, if I home schooled she would
still get plenty of time around other
children. Also, as i've been saying
gov't assistance is there to help those
who can't afford the costs of having a
child. Not everyone is rich, not
everyone can get great jobs. Maybe where
some of you live the economy is great but
all the citys here have massive job loss
and alot of unemployment. We are doing
the best we can to make the money we are
bringing in. There are tons of people
around here who have planned the
pregnancys and need gov't help of at least
one kind. The world isn't perfect. No
one is perfect. We all do the best we
can and all have different values. My
values are being here with my children and
bringing them up safe and happy. I love
my child and will love any more that I
choose to have. I belive life isn't
about money. We are here too short of a
time as it is. I'll do what I need to do
to be happy and just to let all those
aginst me know .... There will always be
taxes. They will always be going to
someone in need, it happens. Who knows
someday you or your kids may need it.
That's why it's there to help. To help
those who aren't rich. Some need it a
short time, others longer. I believe
whoever feels they need it should go 4 it
cause i'd think the health of your child
would mean more than the money!
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babymamahr01
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Nov 2004 Posts: 52 Location: WI
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Posted: 03-28-05 19:47pm
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First off, if I home schooled she would
still get plenty of time around other
children. Also, as i've been saying
gov't assistance is there to help those
who can't afford the costs of having a
child. Not everyone is rich, not
everyone can get great jobs. Maybe where
some of you live the economy is great but
all the citys here have massive job loss
and alot of unemployment. We are doing
the best we can to make the money we are
bringing in. There are tons of people
around here who have planned the
pregnancys and need gov't help of at least
one kind. The world isn't perfect. No
one is perfect. We all do the best we
can and all have different values. My
values are being here with my children and
bringing them up safe and happy. I love
my child and will love any more that I
choose to have. I belive life isn't
about money. We are here too short of a
time as it is. I'll do what I need to do
to be happy and just to let all those
aginst me know .... There will always be
taxes. They will always be going to
someone in need, it happens. Who knows
someday you or your kids may need it.
That's why it's there to help. To help
those who aren't rich. Some need it a
short time, others longer. I believe
whoever feels they need it should go 4 it
cause i'd think the health of your child
would mean more than the money!
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