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BrianBaby

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Posted: 03-25-05 07:59am

Well said hotasfrick
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unbreakable88

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Posted: 03-25-05 15:07pm

All I gotta say is..Wow lol i'm reading what everyone else has said after i've said what I said earlier (wow that was confusing to say lol) but maybe u should wait..Till your financially able to take care of ur kid..I mean I still ment what I said before but well to me it isnt about having to rely on other people for money or taking someone elses money, cos I got my first job a few weeks ago and my money thats taken out for taxes isnt alot but I dunno maybe cos i'm young I dont really care where it goes for, aslong as I get paid the amount I worked for but me personally I know how it is growing up on welfare and stuff..But my mom didnt have me intentionally and we didnt really depend on that to get us through cos we had family and family helps each other out so yeah...But yeah u did ask for opinions..Granted some of them might have been a bit rude but u did ask for them and i'm not taking sides or nothin I mean its cool if u wanna stay home with ur kids and all and that u dont wanna use daycare and such..But couldnt u get someone in ur family to watch ur kids or ur fiances? ...Btw I was jumpin around abit in the post so I hope yall can understand what i'm sayin lol
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2ferano

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the Article You Quoted
Posted: 03-25-05 16:27pm

That article wasn't talking about people conceiving a child knowing they cannot afford it. That was referring to exactly what it stated....No matter how long you have been with your partner, how old the other children are, etc. No one is saying you have to wait until you are independantly wealthy or a millionaire. But, if you had any respect for yourself, your family, and the working people of the world then you would wait until you at least could afford to feed your child.

To the above post...Yes, the taxes taken out of your paycheck don't seem to be an absolutely huge amount. But, all of that money throughout a year, decade or lifetime adds up to a very large sum. And, if you think about how many people are contributing to these taxes, that is when you see exactly how much money is being used to support people who could have avoided needing it. I don't mind helping those who do need it, although I feel it should be optional (as if that will ever happen!Lol), but it is wrong for someone to plan a baby knowing they can't afford it, but others will pay for it. Anyway, just some food for thought.
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unbreakable88

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Posted: 03-25-05 18:26pm

Ok I see your point now..Well i've seen it all along lol but now its making more sense to me lol
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-25-05 20:55pm

All that I am trying to say is if a pereson could never afford a baby does that mean that they shouldn't be allowed to ever have one ?
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xLove x Lostx

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Posted: 03-25-05 21:41pm

Omfg lady, you're getting me really angry and I was going to be nicer about this but I think you're a dumb health forum. Why dont you stfu and go have doing it kids you stupid lazy bum. Dont ask us for advice if you're going to go and do the total opposite. Ugh..People like you make me sick. You never said that if a person that couldnt afford kids doesnt mean they shouldnt have them because we never said that either. That article you posted is just contradicting your original post asking us if you should.
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mandilyn

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Posted: 03-25-05 22:59pm

Well, we live in the same state...So I guess you're spending my money! That sucks b/c I work really hard for my money!!
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babymamahr01

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to Xlove X Lostx
Posted: 03-25-05 23:21pm

Must suck to run out of inteligent things to say.....
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xLove x Lostx

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Posted: 03-26-05 02:31am

Omg shut up..Stop posting..No one cares anymore..Go fxck and have a kid..This post ends it for me..Stop being a comment wh.Re and get offline and have that kid..Good luck to ya.
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-26-05 23:30pm

My body...My choice...My baby......
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Michelle1337

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Posted: 03-27-05 02:48am

I am probably way late but I am not gonna bother trying to read this whole post. So I am just gonna stem off of your original.


I totally understand your desire to have another child. But those programs such as wic and other such things are designed for people who cannot afford a child in anyway.

Think about it like this, for every person who can make it on their own there is more for the people who can't. For example, people like ka really need wic because she is only 14 and can't even get a job. She is on wic because she accidentally got pregnant and in no way can support her and baby kaila without it. Ka needs wic but for every person that takes advantage of it there is another person who really needs it that can't get it.


And honestly, don't say you wont ever be able too. I am only 17 and i'm a mother and I support my child by myself (without wic or anything else) only working part time. Yes I know, I only have one but that's why I don't plan on having another any time soon.


I just wish that you would reconsider. You're still young and have so much of your life left to have children. Why not wait until you are married and know you can support another child?
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-27-05 10:13am

I may already be pregnant......... :d
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2ferano

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Posted: 03-27-05 18:07pm

Oh yay! Great that you didn't even take the time to consider what you were doing before you conceived. Someone should contact the welfare office in your area and give them a copy of this thread so they know you could have avoided this whole situation.

My body, my baby my choice? what? Yeah, if it were you who was going to support the baby. When you are getting pregnant to have others feed your kid then really it shouldn't be your choice.

As I said before if you had a health reason for having this baby now instead of later, ok. If you were disabled in some way that kept you from working altogether and wanted a baby then o.K. Although, if you were too disabled to work then you would be too disabled to care for a child also. Or if you had gotten pregnant on birth control and with condoms, then o.K. But to conceive on purpose knowing that you won't get off of your butt and get a job to support your kid, but rely on others to do it. I don't know how you look yourself in the mirror.

"if a person can never afford to have a baby then should they have a baby anyway?." if they worked at least 50 hours a week, went to school to better themselves and for some reason still could never make enough to have a baby then I would say maybe, but how would they care for it? Is it really right that someone can just quit working and have babies for others to support? Is it right that they work and have the state pay even more money for childcare on top of everything else they would be paying?
I think any good parent would wait until they could at least afford to feed their child. Bringing a child into this world on purpose knowing you can't even afford to feed it isn't a sign of good parenting skills. In fact, it is actually child endangerment, soon to be neglect. What happens if they change the requirements in your state and they will no longer feed and insure your baby? Then what? You still haven't answered that question.
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-27-05 21:28pm

Then I would find a way..... I have people that could help but they know I can get assistance and feel thats the better way to go. In fact I am involved in a state program that helps you with your child and my case worker agrees with what i'm doing......
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2ferano

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Posted: 03-28-05 00:37am

Well then your case worker needs fired. That is not what the system was designed for. She/he of all people knows exactly who should and shouldn't get and use welfare of any kind, and she should be turned in for fraud.
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2ferano

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Posted: 03-28-05 03:27am

And if you have people who will help you willingly, why don't you have those people help you instead of taking funding from people who don't have anyone else to help them?
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BrianBaby

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Posted: 03-28-05 08:03am

babymamahr01 wrote:
i may already be pregnant......... :d


wow, I hope you don't raise your children with that childish attitude....Really, grow up. Noone here cares if your pregnant, we just don't want to have to pay for it. So go have your baby and raise it on welfare, and off of other peoples hard earned money. Teach your kids to do the same, and to work hard at nothing in life, because those are the morals you are displaying right now....
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Kourtney08

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Posted: 03-28-05 18:30pm

Quote:
and don't home school your kid she may be smart and doing good at home with you but she needs to be around other kids. She needs the chance to go out and learn with other kids. If you are really raising here right no matter who she is around they will not be a bad influence on her.


don't tell someone how to raise their kid. Thats not right. You may think homeschooling is wrong, but how dare you tell someone 'don't home school your child.' thats out of line.
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-28-05 19:32pm

First off, if I home schooled she would still get plenty of time around other children. Also, as i've been saying gov't assistance is there to help those who can't afford the costs of having a child. Not everyone is rich, not everyone can get great jobs. Maybe where some of you live the economy is great but all the citys here have massive job loss and alot of unemployment. We are doing the best we can to make the money we are bringing in. There are tons of people around here who have planned the pregnancys and need gov't help of at least one kind. The world isn't perfect. No one is perfect. We all do the best we can and all have different values. My values are being here with my children and bringing them up safe and happy. I love my child and will love any more that I choose to have. I belive life isn't about money. We are here too short of a time as it is. I'll do what I need to do to be happy and just to let all those aginst me know .... There will always be taxes. They will always be going to someone in need, it happens. Who knows someday you or your kids may need it. That's why it's there to help. To help those who aren't rich. Some need it a short time, others longer. I believe whoever feels they need it should go 4 it cause i'd think the health of your child would mean more than the money!
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babymamahr01

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Posted: 03-28-05 19:47pm

First off, if I home schooled she would still get plenty of time around other children. Also, as i've been saying gov't assistance is there to help those who can't afford the costs of having a child. Not everyone is rich, not everyone can get great jobs. Maybe where some of you live the economy is great but all the citys here have massive job loss and alot of unemployment. We are doing the best we can to make the money we are bringing in. There are tons of people around here who have planned the pregnancys and need gov't help of at least one kind. The world isn't perfect. No one is perfect. We all do the best we can and all have different values. My values are being here with my children and bringing them up safe and happy. I love my child and will love any more that I choose to have. I belive life isn't about money. We are here too short of a time as it is. I'll do what I need to do to be happy and just to let all those aginst me know .... There will always be taxes. They will always be going to someone in need, it happens. Who knows someday you or your kids may need it. That's why it's there to help. To help those who aren't rich. Some need it a short time, others longer. I believe whoever feels they need it should go 4 it cause i'd think the health of your child would mean more than the money!
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