Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 12 Location: manchester, uk
Cocaine Worries Posted: 03-19-05 18:02pm
Me & my partner and a very large group
of friend all use cocaine most weekends.
Ive been doin this for around 2 years and
really want to stop but find it hard
mainly due to the fact that I would have
to stop seeing alot of my friends if I
decided to stop.
The amount we are having is incresing an I
worried that we may be getting in to
deep.
I never have coke when im sober and also
never do it during the week, always
weekend when im in a pub or at a party.
I jus wanted some advice on the best way
to go about quitting?
Also I would be interested to know if any1
else feels trapped as it seems that
cocaine is a big part of socailizing now.
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ManchesterMadChick
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 12 Location: manchester, uk
Posted: 03-21-05 18:31pm
No replies :(
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BADSAL
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Sep 2004 Posts: 257 Location: PA
Posted: 03-21-05 18:40pm
I never knew cocaine was a big part of
socializing. I always heard how
addictive it was, so I always vowed never
to even try it. I agree it would be very
hard to quit with the people around you
still doing it.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 03-21-05 19:48pm
Hi there! Please seek professional help
and make sure you are ready to quit! You
may not be doing it during the week now,
but, the time will come! Just realize
what you are doing to your body and your
life when you are using. Their are much
better other ways to socialize. I have
had friends that really have messed up
their lives on drugs and it is not worth
it
sincerely,
sandy
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 03-22-05 02:49am
Yes, I never tried cocaine or any other
addictive drug because of the chance of
getting hooked and ruining my life.
I understand that your friends do it and
if you quit it may mean not seeing them.
But, look at it his way: this is your
life! Just because you don't see them
often doesn't mean your life is over.
But, if you keep seeing them it may be!
You may o.D and die, get serious health
problems from your habit, or get arrested
and hauled off to jail. Is that really
what you want? Get professional help if
you do need it. All addictions start of
as social. Keep that in mind. I am glad
you want to quit, but now you have to be
very strong and actually do it. A lot of
my friends do it (and yeah, usually only
on the weekends) and I really do lose
respect for them when they do. I still
love them dearly, but it really does
affect things. And, some of them are
getting a lot worse. Don't let it happen
to you!
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corvus
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 8 Location: nonya
Posted: 03-22-05 04:52am
I do coke on about a monthly basis, when I
first tried it I told myself if I ever
'craved' it, I would never touch it again.
When I do it, and/or have it...I usually
over-indulge. My friend got me into it,
and he ended up getting addicted to it.
We are both 19 and he ended up selling his
computer, his car, taking money from his
parents until he finally realized what had
happened. He took it into his own hand to
stop the addiction. We both still do it
from time to time, but you have to have
self control. If you dont think you can
stop, you may need help. But if you only
feel the need to do it because the people
around you are, then you sound like you
have what it takes to help yourself. No
one is going to look down on you because
you pass up some lines. They'll shrug and
go on to the next person :) but if you
feel it is an 'addiction' then maybe you
should stop hanging around them until you
feel you can control the craving.
Personally, I think some drugs are fine on
a social level, but once it becomes a
personal thing...Is when you need to
worry.
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ManchesterMadChick
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 12 Location: manchester, uk
Posted: 03-22-05 08:36am
Thanks for the replys!
I dont think I actually have a "problem"
as I am a very stong minded person and if
I had to stop then I know I could!
It just seems that im in a routine of
having a drink and then a sniff, I enjoy
it, I use it, but I know when ive had
enough and I know when to stop.
It seems that when im on a come down the
day after, that is when I worry about it.
Im young and im leading my life the way I
want to I know that I can keep it under
control otherwise I would stop right
now.
My parner however is not so strong minded
and is silly when hes had a drink, he has
stupid amounts (nothin life threatening!)
that he cant really afford because he says
hes worked all week and he deserves it. I
worry about him goin to far but he doesnt
listen to me. :(
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redsugar
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 09 Feb 2005 Posts: 140
Posted: 03-22-05 09:44am
Your gonna have to find some friends that
don't do coke...My boyfriend used to be
really bad into it, and when he stopped
doing it was when he stoped hanging around
the friends he did it w/ and hung around
me more. Now every time he goes to those
friends house he ends up doing it.
So if you are still gonna hang around
people who do it, it will be really hard
for you to sit and watch them while you
aren't.
I don't think you need medical treatment
as long as you aren't wanting to do it
every day and crave it when u wake up.
You just need to be strong willed and
refrain from doing it. Talk to your b/f
that you think it's getting to be too
much, if he really cares he will try to
quit with you.
Good luck!
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 03-22-05 10:28am
corvus
wrote:
i do coke on about a monthly
basis, when I first tried it I told myself
if I ever 'craved' it, I would never touch
it again. When I do it, and/or have
it...I usually over-indulge. My friend
got me into it, and he ended up getting
addicted to it. We are both 19 and he
ended up selling his computer, his car,
taking money from his parents until he
finally realized what had happened. He
took it into his own hand to stop the
addiction. We both still do it from time
to time, but you have to have self
control. If you dont think you can stop,
you may need help. But if you only feel
the need to do it because the people
around you are, then you sound like you
have what it takes to help yourself. No
one is going to look down on you because
you pass up some lines. They'll shrug
and go on to the next person :) but if you
feel it is an 'addiction' then maybe you
should stop hanging around them until you
feel you can control the craving.
Personally, I think some drugs are fine on
a social level, but once it becomes a
personal thing...Is when you need to
worry.
first off don't listen to a thing this guy
says. He is still using with a person
that has gone so far as to sell his stuff
and steal to get cocaine and doesnt feel
like that is a problem!
Second, I used for about 6 months almost
daily, for free becuase I tended bar and
it was give for free, to give out drinks.
Go figure. I knew I had to stop and
leaving all of my "friends" was a scary
thing but necessary and I left the state I
lived in and moved back home virginia to
new york to kick the habit and start a new
life with new friends!!
It is a difficult process and takes a ton
of will power, your boy friend is heading
down the path to total self destruction by
rationalizing abuse of a drug because he
has to work, second you will be in that
path because you are there with him. Run
run run for your life and thrive on life
not on drugs! Drug dealers cut cocaine
with all kinds of poisons and you are no
doubt going to get hit with one of them
and end up in the hospital.
You may be lucky enough to be sobered up
and leave or you may leave in your
hospital bed, brain dead and being fed
through a tube or even worse you will be
dead and your mom and dad will have to
bury you, not worth it! Cocaine is only
social for the dealer that is selling the
junk to you.
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 03-22-05 13:55pm
Yes, if you quit then you quit. You
cannot, "overcome your addiction" but
still use occasionally.
Just remember, that everyone believes they
can control it. Strong minded or not
everyone's addiction starts somewhere, and
it is usually when you feel you can
control it that you are in trouble.
And, think about the long-term effects?
It is so horrible for your mind and body.
What if you get some bad stuff? This is
your life here, not some game. Just
please be careful, get away from your
friends that use (if you are too tempted
to be around them) and overcome this!
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 03-22-05 14:11pm
Keep in mind to that you can lead a horse
to water but you cannot make them
drink(hope this makes sense, as I have
learned this by dealing with people).
Sincerely,
sandy
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shadowalker164
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: 03-22-05 16:34pm
Mad chick…
nobody posts statements like you did by
mistake, we don’t show up in places like
this by mistake. We never do.
I quarantine you have a little voice in
the back of your head that is screaming at
you, error! Error! Error! Every time
you use! You can smell a ton of trouble
on your horizon.
But you have another little voice telling
you that such an extreme position as
bailing on all your doper friends isn’t
really necessary. Just too extreme.
Results,
that what you want to be focusing on.
All real programs of recovery are
infinitely practical, results oriented.
Make a note of how you feel now.
Honesty is the only rule here. Tell your
self the truth, the whole truth and
nothing but the truth.
And the question you need to ask yourself
is how’s it going?
Now, make a note to check in on yourself
in maybe six months from now. Again
rigorous honesty is the only rule. Ask
yourself the same question, how’s it
going?
If you find that things aren’t going so
well, that six months ago is starting to
look like the good old days, then you
might want to reevaluate the path you are
on.
I agree with tamadrummer, don’t listen
to advice from an active user on how to
live a clean life. They can’t help you.
They don’t know how. The idea of never
using the dope of their choice again
scares the hell out of an addict. They
will find 100 reasons why never using
again is just too extreme. Find someone
who has solved this problem in their life,
and ask them how they did it.
On the road to the good stuff,
richard s.
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ManchesterMadChick
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 19 Mar 2005 Posts: 12 Location: manchester, uk
Posted: 03-23-05 07:40am
Thanks for all of your advice.
I will keep it all in mind! I know I can
do it! I dont have a doubt in y mind
about that!!
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shadowalker164
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 Jan 2005 Posts: 175 Location: Tampa, FL
Posted: 03-23-05 10:54am
Mad chick,
quote…
“ive been doin this for around 2 years
and really want to stop but find it
hard”
if we could just stop, based on our self
will, we would do so. But the fact is we
don’t. If quitting was as easy as that
there would be no need for any of this
recovery stuff at all. We would see a
problem in using most weekends for two
years and just stop doing it. But for
some reason or another we just don’t do
it.
We are satisfied sometimes with the
reasons we use for not stopping, we
don’t want to be alone, we don’t want
to not see my friends, it isn’t all that
bad, I can handle it, I can stop if I want
to, I just don’t want to stop right now.
Come saturday night after a long week at
work, we kick back with a couple of brews.
What’s the harm in that? People do it
all the time.
I quote you again…
“i never have coke when im sober and
also never do it during the week, always
weekend when im in a pub or at a party.”
if you can stop, and be “happy” with
being stopped, then do so. But mad chick,
when you start drinking that first drink,
you know that before the night is over,
you will be snorting a line or two. Then
the next morning, you open your eyes and
you reflect on where you are going in your
life, and what you are reflecting on
ain’t that pretty, you worry about it.
I quote you again,
“it seems that when im on a come down
the day after, that is when I worry”
there is a school of thought that holds
that the reason we start drinking that
first “harmless” drink is because we
aren’t happy with being sober. And not
you, not me, not anybody can stay sober
and stay unhappy about being sober. So we
start drinking, we can’t stop that
cycle, and just like clockwork, all the
other crap just follows.
Mad chick, try stopping. Your boyfriend
isn’t going to stop, not one chance in
hell of that. If you try stopping, he and
your other friends will do one of two
things,
#1 they will applaud you on cutting back,
and offer you half a line. Or
#2 they will see your sobriety as an
indictment on their own behavior, and
attempt to undermine your resolve.
Either way they don’t hold a solution to
what you feel you need to do in your life.
They can’t help you in this. They
don’t know how.
I quote you for the last time…
“i can do it! I dont have a doubt in y
mind about that!!””
please, let us know how that works out.
Richard
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 03-23-05 13:33pm
Just wanted to add one little thing....If
they are truly your friends they will
support you. If you tell them you are
trying to quit and they offer you even
half a line then they are not your
friends. They are simply people with whom
you party who do not want you to quit
because they cannot or will not and don't
see why you should.
So, whatever happens just know there are
people out there (if it turns out they
aren't the "friends" you have now) who do
and will love you and would rather you
quit and stay healthy than try to get you
to do something that will hurt you. Good
luck.
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corvus
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Mar 2005 Posts: 8 Location: nonya
In Reply to Tamadrummer Posted: 03-24-05 03:26am
Lol, first of all, he has overcome the
'addiction'. Its been almost 2 years.
Its a rare thing for him now. And I never
said that him stealing/selling stuff was
not a problem. He got to the point that
he wouldnt listen, and I couldnt help him.
It hurt to know that there was nothing I
could do. And just because you had to run
away from your problems, doesnt mean
everyone else has to.
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Tamadrummer
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Oct 2004 Posts: 710 Location: Zephyrhills,Fl
Posted: 03-24-05 09:35am
I do not want to turn this into a flame
war, but regardless of what you say, you
are still using with a known abuser. Any
advice you give becomes null and void at
that point. Regardless if it is once a
month or daily or once a year, you know
this guys issues and you are being a
friend and helping him out.
Manchestermadchick,
listen to the advice given by those that
have been in ruins and crawled out of the
ashs and beat thier illnesses.
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D-rack
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jun 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Tucson
No Worries I Hope Posted: 06-18-07 05:58am
I just got done reading about 7 articles
about cocaine. As much fun as it is while
you are doing it (and it really is), that
is all it is is fun. Do not go overboard,
do what you want and follow your own
instincts, and when you disappoint
yourself you know you have gone too far.
Just live a life you are happy with. If
you question any of your actions you are
obviously looking for justification. I am
just one person but, if you are asking
other people to justify your actions than
you should stop what you are doing and
take the advice that is already in your
head (that is to do the RIGHT thing and
you know what the right thing is). I said,
"you," a lot in this but I want you to
know that there was a whole lot of we in
this. This thought process helped me stay
the strongest I have ever needed to be in
my life. It worked. I am not good with
words but I hope you understand my point.
Seriously,
Derek
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StellaAnne
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Sep 2007 Posts: 3
Posted: 09-08-07 19:40pm
ManchesterMadChick
wrote:
I dont think I actually have a "problem"
as I am a very stong minded person and if
I had to stop then I know I could!
It just seems that im in a routine of
having a drink and then a sniff, I enjoy
it, I use it, but I know when ive had
enough and I know when to stop.
I did coke for a year and a half because I
was in a new relationship, that's what
they all did, so in order to not be bored
out of my mind, I joined in. Grew to like
it. Grew to love. But KNEW that I would
never get addicted because I am a very
strong minded person and if I had to stop
then I knew I could.
Yep. When my relationship with my
boyfriend ended, I walked away from that
life and didn't do coke for 5 months.
Didn't even miss it. Then two months ago,
something (still don't know what) led me
to want to numb myself. Became depressed,
ignored it and when an opportunity for
coke was put in front of me I naively did
it as a temporary reprieve from whatever
is was that was bothering me. So on top
of whatever it is that sent me on a
downward spiral, I now am in trouble.
I'm now an addict. Only TWO MONTHS of
doing cocaine on my own and I'm an addict.
NEVER did I think a person of my
intelligence, strength, integrity would
find herself in such a nightmare. It
doesn't take much for that switch to flip
especially if you drink when you do coke.
You'll believe what you want to believe to
continue to use is on weekends but take it
from someone that sadly now knows...you're
playing with fire. Find new friends!!!
It sucks and you'll look like the bad guy
but deep down they'll completely
understand because many of them want to
drop you as a friend as well. Trust me, we
all question/wonder about recreational use
to ourselves just not to each other.
Be careful of what you believe. Being
cocky is not a good thing to be. You need
to realize that cocaine is a problem for A
LOT of "strong" people for a reason. If
you insist on continuing to use...just
remember, you never know when life might
throw you a curveball and you might not be
so strong, leaving you vulnerable to
believe that using coke responsibly???
during good times will be the same as
using it just a couple times to help you
through the bad. And that situation will
present itself....you're playing with
fire.
Sorry, don't mean to lecture but I know
that I wouldn't have taken a post like
this seriously either.....no one gets
addicted on purpose and let me promise
you, it happens QUICK!