Floaters are a common cause of floating
lights, but I do wonder if one or two
posters in this thread have a mild case of
charles bonnet syndrome. (do a google
search on that, if you've not heard of
it.)
if the part of the brain that handles
vision gets starved of stimulation, then
it can get start making up work for itself
from boredom, so to speak. Simple
patterns are quite common, and it doesn't
have to be the more complex hallucinations
of objects and people to qualify as cbs.
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Travis13
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Joined: 22 Mar 2005 Posts: 29
Posted: 10-15-05 16:01pm
Ive found out from 3 different doctors
that they are just blood cells passing
through my eye...Do some research and
maybe thats what ur seeing and ur focusing
on it too much.
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jagatronch
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Perfect Summary Posted: 11-13-05 23:42pm
I've just recently started noticing (two
runs ago) this same effect (little white
swirly things) while running. Have had
floaters start (male, 29, 6' 170bs,
athletic, lasik 4 years ago, previous rx
-4.0 each eye) maybe 6 mos ago and started
going through this mad observational
phase.
It seems like it calms down a bit after
running a little further, warming up
around 10 minutes. As someone else
mentioned, each bounce on the pavement
seemed to cause a bit of a shift in
vision. Focusing in on the floaters seems
to make it worse, and it seems like if I
"leave" myself to this, the field of
numerous of these white swirly things just
increases. Of course, that creates panic
which perhaps starts a further cycle.
Also, I can more or less see a visual
response to my pulse if I lean my head
over when stretching afterward. I wear a
heart rate monitor, so have a good feel
for how fast the hearts beating.
Any other observations when running, as
the other poster suggested?
My vision is more or less perfect now, as
has been since lasik. Have been through 3
dilated exams in last 6 months, no
problems seen. It's good reading about
others exposure to these. It's
unbelievable depressing. I've caught
myself thinking "well, I need to be
running back toward the car in case
there's a retinal detachment." you're
definitely not alone in having that shiver
of fear run through you when these things
start becoming more noticeable, for
whatever reason they choose to.
How successful are docs, when saying there
are no visible problems, in telling the
truth? In otherwords, - how often do
people actually develop serious problems
after the doc says all is good.
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jdhallen2
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Joined: 04 Jan 2006 Posts: 2
Posted: 01-04-06 07:32am
I experience simliar problems as mentioned
in this post.
I wonder how your lifes look otherwise.
Can computer usage (looking at the screen)
have any impact? I work at an it company.
Spending a minumum of 8 hours/day infront
of a compuyter, and sometimes feel this
is worsening my case.
Otherwise, could other aspects as sleep,
food or alcohol have any impact?
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guyoncouch
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Joined: 15 Mar 2006 Posts: 4 Location: West Palm
Similar Issue Posted: 03-15-06 21:08pm
Last night in night school I had a similar
"sparkle" incident, random sparkles of
light that could not be shaken off. It
lasted around 30 seconds to a minute. I
am 16 as well. :twisted:
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ex48er
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Joined: 14 Mar 2006 Posts: 19
Posted: 03-16-06 00:27am
If u have already myopic vision, ur teen
years are big changes for ur eyes and ur
floaters do change a lot, just goes with
everything else to make ur teen years more
exciting.
I'd call ur doctor and let him know about
the flashes, let him make the call on
whether or not u need to have ur retinas
checked. Always better to be safe on
that... When u have a retinal detachment,
the first 48 hours are the most crucial.
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trish54
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Flashing Lights Posted: 03-24-06 14:57pm
My 16 year old son has the same symptoms
travis13 mentioned, and has been to all
the same doctors he's talked about. I've
also had a ringing in my ears and
peripheral lights and blurred vision.
Both started last july.
Did anyone's problems begin with a
sickness of some kind? My son and I
were working hard outdoors in the heat
when his symptoms started. At first we
thought it was an aura migraine, which
both of us have been prone to. Within a
week of each other, we were both sick with
what I thought was heat sickness. We
had complete lethargy for about 3 days.
The symptoms I described above have been
constant since then.
We thought we were quite alone in this
until we read the posts on ehealthforum.
I am a journalist, and have been all over
the net, and have contacted the cdc. Now
that I know there are at least a couple of
others who have experienced the same
symptoms, i'm contacting epidemiologists
to see if there are others who have
reported the same things.
I''m thinking this is some type of virus.
I can think of no other explanation for
the two of us getting problems with our
vision within a week of each other. My
son's symptoms are much harder for him to
deal with, and though he stays very
active, there are times when it really
gets him down, especially when he gets a
cold or something and can't be as
active.
Do any of the rest of you have well water?
We've had it tested for bacteria, and
we're now having it tested for metals.
Please let me know if any of you have had
any luck treating the condition since your
posts.
Last edited by trish54 on 04-03-06 10:28am; edited 1 time in total
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nightline
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Joined: 26 Mar 2006 Posts: 1
Posted: 03-26-06 22:12pm
Hello everyone... Just joined this forum
and find helpful info here... I wud like
to share my experience... Recently I have
been seeing dancing white lights in my
field of vision... It apprears like a a
swarm of dancing patterns that wud not go
away... It gets more obvious when I go
into a brightly lit place or coming in
from one... It doesn't go away and I have
been having it a couple of weeks now....
My history... 2 months ago my right eye
was injured and had a retinal detachment
and seceral buclking and laser was
done.... During this period the dancing
light was not there... It only happened
recently... And first on the injured eye
and now on the good eye... I had a eye
check last week and in fact the doctor
said that my retina is healing in the
injured eye and that my left eye seems
good... No retinal detachment or any
other thing that he can see.... And he
has no explanation as mto the dancing
lights...
After reading here from travis, I wud
think that it has something to do woth
brain activity... My left eye has been
trying to compensate my right after the
injury and probably it has a hard time
doing that, trying to adjust and the other
theory is the seeing the white blood cells
thing... Thks for letting me share and
hopefully it will help others as well
gives support to myself from other people
experience....
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bward
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I See the Same Thing Posted: 03-31-06 21:21pm
I have the same symptom -- you describe it
exactly -- swarms of white things when I
look at light backgrounds.
My neuro-opthamologist called it "entropic
phenomena" or "entoptic phenomena" --
seeing white blood cells when you look at
a light background.
I'm not a doctor, but I started seeing
these things, or at least noticing them
about the same time the doctor noted that
my blood pressure was a little higher.
Have you gotten your blood pressure
checked? Could it be that you have high
blood pressure and are therefore seeing
these white flashes when at rest?
Just a suggestion -- one that I intend to
bring up to my doctors next time I see
them...
Brent ward
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Mike1981
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Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Posts: 1 Location: Norristown
Spots Posted: 10-16-06 12:06pm
I have been seeing the white sparkles and
the floaters for 12 years now nonstop the
sparkles started when I was 13 and the
floaters came about 3 years later. The
doc says that my eyes are fine every year
my vision is 20/25 my only problem is
these sparkles, the floaters don't really
bother me 2 much.
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Jonas54
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Same Swarms In Front of My Eyes Posted: 02-05-07 06:09am
I am 25 years old and have been seeing
swarms of white in front of my eyes for
about five years. It sounds excactly like
what some of the others have described
here; they each dance for about half a
sceond/a second then disappears, they are
not fully visible unless I look at
something bright like the sky (but they
have gradually become more and more
visible and now effects every single
visionary experience in some way). In the
beginning there were fewer of them - maybe
20-30 in the very beginning - but it has
evolved gradually throughout the last five
years, and now there are houndreds, maybe
thousands of these tiny white flashes that
move in front of my eyes like a swarm of
tiny insects. Frustrating indeed. And
they are constantly there, all day, all
night. However it seems that they can
differ slightly in strentgh from time to
time, apparently depending on certain
things: after a night of heavy drinking
they can be really vivid and forceful, but
after a good long swim (or jog) they seem
to be less forceful.
I also started seeing floaters about a
year ago, these are also evolving; in the
beginning there was only a few see-through
jelly like circles in the top left, now
there are clusters of these and some of
them has turned into dark clouds of smoke
that floats down when I move my eyes.
My night vision has slowly derailed as
well. Sometimes it's hard to see things
in the dark.
I am not sure what this can have anything
to do with. I have thought a lot about
brain diseases such as sclerosis, tumors
etc, but I have had this for five years
and I seem to be in fine physical and
mental shape. I never have headaches or
anything. I have also thought that it
might have something to do with the heart
or the circulatory system, but again, my
body seems to work fine.
Anyone who knows anything or just feel
like sharing write me an e-mail.
Best of luck to all of you!
Jonas
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thc
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Sparkle In Eyes Posted: 03-09-07 14:11pm
this is how you get rid of those buggers
wear sunglasses granted you still see them
when you take them off but it helps you
forget
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benuk1
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Join the Club! Posted: 03-13-07 08:27am
Hello everyone, I feel I should add my
tuppence worth here.
I have been experiencing these white
flashes for just over 3 years now. I am
quite at ease with them as they do not
seem to be causing me any ill effect other
than some cheeky glimpses of them
throughout the day.
I have looked these flashes up across the
net out of curiosity, but other than the
general floaters or white blood cells,
this is the closest place that these
flashes are being descibed, as i see
them.
For me, the flashes are more like wisps of
moving light. The wisps never appear
directly in front of me, they start from
about 33 degrees left and right of frontal
vission. They last for half second to 1
second, sometimes staionary, sometimes
moving. If you look over to where the
light is appearing, the cheeky little
things vanish like it's a game.
I find it interesting that other people
are seeing these white wisps of light too.
It also reads that most people started to
see these wisps from about five years ago
till now. I wonder why we are seeing
these?
One avenue that I have gone down when
researching these lights is something that
austronaughts see.
**--Quote
from:http://helios.gsfc.nasa.gov/qa_cr.htm
l
Q. I have also read that different
astronauts have claimed to have seen what
they believe are cosmic rays when they
closed their eyes. These were as brief
bursts of light. Is this true?
A. The light astronauts may see when they
close their eyes is caused by cosmic rays
- but it's produced via a mechanism known
as Cherenkov radiation. The particles
actually produce the light inside the
eyeball.
Dr. Louis Barbie
**--End Quote--
We all know that the earth is changing,
the weather is going crazy, the seasons
are all messed up. We know that migratory
animals are ending up in the wrong place,
on the wrong beach or in the wrong land.
We can read that our solar system and
indeed our planet is being bombarded at
the moment by radiation...
**--Quote:http://www.newscientist.com/arti
cle.ns?id=dn7082
A mystery object near the centre of our
galaxy is sending out powerful pulses of
radio waves.
**--End Quote--
Maybe all this has something to do with
the white wisps some of us are starting to
see? Maybe only a few of us are intuned or
sensitive enough to see these?
I hope that by adding comments about my
own experience, it will inspire others to
write about any similar experiences they
are having. Maybe this is something that
can not be explained yet, I do not know!
As I mentioned above, the sprites of light
do not seem to be harming me and if they
like to play games then that is fine. I
like playing games
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umbrella
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Joined: 11 Apr 2007 Posts: 2
Posted: 04-11-07 17:05pm
travis, i am also 16, i have the same
problems as you
i'm almost positive that this is a new
kind of.. condition, that hasn't been
figured out by doctors
ever since christmas, i smoked pot and i
did something the wrong way.. i was really
stoned, negatively and i was convinced i
was dead right there.
the anxiety/panic i had from that night
still haunts me at random times in the
day.
i've asked alot of my friends about this,
they say pot has no effect like that on
them
i even went to a doctor about it, told him
this and he said it wasn't from drinking
or drugs.
he told me it was because of the migraines
and stuff my mom had
she only had 4-5 in her life, the visual
aura ones
i have had two and they are the most
frightening experiences ever.
i had this feeling that he was wrong, he
just jumped to that conclusion
he told me it was because of stress and
anxiety too.. but thats pretty much just
guessing
i am convinced that ever since i have
smoked marijuana that i have been messed
up with this
almost every night i have been frightened
to sleep.. i get that anxietic feeling,
its so scary
if anyone knows ANYTHING about this,
please message me.. i can't continue to
live like it.
but heres the condition
when i try and sleep in the dark i see
crazy stuff, i think its just me being
really scared, but i'll turn on the tv and
see that everything is fine and i'll feel
more relaxed.
when i'm in school the lines from my
notebook get stuck in my head when i'm
copying from the blackboard and it messes
me up, and i get panicy.
and basically the visual migraines, i've
never had in my life.. i think its because
of this.
i can't even sleep over to any of my
friends houses without panicing when
trying to sleep
almost one to three times a day this
bothers me.
even reading about it now gets me
panicing, but i want to try and find a
solution
take care, we'll all know of this unknown
curse some day
-nick
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Philemon
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Joined: 16 Apr 2007 Posts: 1
Posted: 04-16-07 17:13pm
Whoow, aren't we getting a little ahead of
ourselves when we talk about this
phenomenon as some sort of virus.
Umbrella:
Drug induced anxiety is not at all
uncommon, I for one got it, and you can
find a whole bunch of them on forums etc.
If you suffer from anxiety there's like a
swarm of symptoms that follows it, so i
would rather say that the anxiety make
your eyes get stressed out than anything
else.
And for everyone else:
Take some friend with you to look at the
sky/dark room/white wall and ask them what
they see. Probably nothing at all until
you explain for them what to look for.
Would be surprised if someone said they
don't get what you mean. I have thought
about this and everyone i ask get what I'm
talking about, they just don't make a deal
out of it.
Of course high or low blood pressure can
make this more apparent, same for stress,
but I think the biggest problem lies in
the obsessing. Some clever poster before
said that we'll just have to stop thinking
about it to become unaware of it. As soon
as i read about theese "conditions" i saw
it everywhere.
Not saying I live up to it but I think
"don't worry be happy" should be the
motto.
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benuk1
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Joined: 13 Mar 2007 Posts: 2
More Research Turns Up Posted: 05-16-07 16:24pm
Hi again Travis13,
I found something new the other night. I
wonder if it is SkyFish (Rods) that we are
seeing?
Have you seen a SkyFish, I came across a
video on youtube the other day and after
watching it, looked SkyFish up on google.
There are quite a few sites out there with
images of SkyFish, I have added some links
below to pictures of SkyFish, the first
picture really looks like the flashes that
I see, and the 2nd pic looks like the
wispy, white, sprite like effect that I
tried to explain when I wrote you before.
I'd be really interested to know if the
pictures below show the same sort of
effect that everyone else is seeing!
Remember, the pics are stills and usually
these whisp of light last for no longer
than .5 - 1sec (probably even less than
that).
For me, it's spot on. But why and HOW am I
seeing this?
Hi, I'm 17 and did a search on flashing
lights across vision and this forum came
up,
I more or less see what others have
described but i explain it like snow
across a tv just not as intense, I have
seen this 'snow' which seems to just
"prickle" across my vision my entire life
and have seen many doctors and specialist
about it and have had no real answers, I
was diagnosed with Periodic Syndrome aka
Migraine Syndrome and was told flashing
lights wasn't
out of the ordinary but the are supposed
to go away when i close my eyes nut I see
them 24/7 day or night, what ever I look
at, blank, complicated, white, orange, it
doesn't matter.
I'm really sick of them and they are still
a big annoyance in my life and it angers
me that I'm not taken seriously about them
and when I am no answers arrive -any
ideas?-
P.s. not sure if this is related but if i
look at sharp objects my eyes sting like
they are being stabbed, may be just be in
my head but they seriously, seriously
hurt.
thanks
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villandra
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Joined: 05 Aug 2007 Posts: 1 Location: Austin, TX
Posted: 08-05-07 11:13am
You need to quit speculating and see an
eye doctor. Even a good optician like
Walmart's can give you a pretty good idea
what is and is not going on with your
eyes.
I have the flashing light problem, which a
glaucoma specialist diagnosed as optic
migraine.
A few days ago it was acting up so I
stopped by Walmart eye clinic for an
overdue exam. She said what they most
worry about with that symptom is detached
retina, so she looked, and she could tell
that it's fine.
She originally sent me to the glaucoma
specialist because of concern about the
size of my eye cup, and this time she sent
me back to him because it's grown bigger.
And all this and new eyeglasses
prescription that I also needed ran me
only $65. And I walked in and she was
able to see me.
You don't want ot be speculating about "I
think maybe I have a mildly detached
retina"! That condition is dangerous and
treatable. And maybe everything is fine!
Yours,
Dora Smith
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MaxFisher
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Joined: 21 Oct 2007 Posts: 3
My Sparkles Posted: 10-21-07 14:35pm
Hey I'm glad that some other people know
what I'm talking about! I try explaining
it to people and they just look at me
dumbfounded. I first really noticed these
sparkles like hundreds of the tiniest
glitter you can imagine while looking at
the sky and other bright surfaces.
Sometimes I notice some are bigger than
other and streak across my vision like a
commet streaking across the atmosphere.
I would love to have an answer to this.
Hopefully its nothing harmful. I did
notice a higher prominence of them when I
was on an SSRI anti depressant. Don't
know if its just coincidence or not. Has
anyone else here been on any type of MAOI
or SSRI.
Updates on this would be awesome! Take
care.
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MaxFisher
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Re: More Research Turns Up Posted: 10-21-07 14:37pm
benuk1
wrote:
Hi again Travis13,
I found something new the other night. I
wonder if it is SkyFish (Rods) that we are
seeing?
Well I can tell you they probly do look
like what youre experiencing. However
"Rods" a video phenomena that were
researched turned out to be bugs and the
frame rate of the video created them .