Right Index Finger Pain (please Help!) Posted: 03-28-05 19:09pm
I apologize for the below posting. It is
very long and wordy. However, it is a
detailed representation of what i've been
going through over the last 5 months. If
there is anyone out there they can offer
me some suggestions other than what i've
already tried, I would very much
appreciate it!
10/20/04: approximately 2 weeks before
surgery, right index finger knuckle had
slight tingle and itch. Over the next 2
weeks, it began to hurt. I discussed
this w/dr. Zeiger. He said after the
surgery, pain should go away.
11/4/04: Dr. Evan zeiger (neurosurgeon)
performed cervical fusion on c-5/6. I
had prior fusion (1998) on c-4/5. I woke
from surgery and finger pain was still
present. He said to give it several
weeks and it will eventually go away.
11/22/04: finger worsened. I talked to
Dr. Ghori (neurologist). He said it was
a good sign (pain) that the nerve was not
permanently damaged. He brought by
samples of trilepital (150 mg) for me to
take. He said it was for epilepsy, but
it also helps with nerve damage pain.
11/23/04: went to see Dr. Charles feagin
(orthopedic hand specialist and plastic
surgeon). I was having some tennis elbow
pain. He gave me a cortisone injection,
which he has done several times in the
past. I talked to him briefly about my
finger. He said if it got worse, to give
him a call.
12/8/04: had first follow up meeting with
Dr. Walter haynes iii (neurosurgeon and
one of Dr. Zeiger’s partners in
b’ham). This was pertaining to my
cervical fusion 11/4/04. He took some
x-rays of my neck and said everything
looked good. I mentioned my finger pain.
He said it should go away in a couple of
months. Recommended I use neurotin (600
mg/day). He also ordered me a medrol
dose pak. Said there probably is some
swelling that could be causing the finger
pain. The medrol pak is an oral steroid
which should take care of this. Also
wrote me a prescription for physical
therapy to get my legs back to full
strength. I also complained that went I
stretched, I would cramp up. He said one
I get back into my exercise routine, the
cramping should go away.
12/30/04: pain has continued to
intensify. It has migrated from my
knuckle towards the tip of my right index
finger and radiated into the top of my
hand. Dr. Zeiger’s office recommended
an epidural, which I had done today by Dr.
Steve jones (anesthesiologist ). Dr.
Jones slowly drove the needle in. He
told me once he injected the epidural
space, the pain should go away within
seconds. Unfortunately, it didn’t.
He said to give it a few days. But I
could see the look on his face that he was
surprised I didn’t have the slightest
bit of relief.
1/5/05: I had my 2nd follow up meeting
w/dr. Zeiger in b’ham. He looked at
my hand and said the surgery he performed
had nothing to do with my hand. I
mentioned the other minor herniation in
c-3/4. He said it was so minor, it
wouldn’t be causing my problem. He had
me get an x-ray of my hand and then
recommended I see a rheumatologist. He
said an injection into the mcp joint
should provide relief.
1/11/05: Dr. Feagin gave me a cortisone
injection for the radial nerve in the mcp
area (knuckle). I waited several days
without the slightest bit of relief.
1/26/05: I went back to Dr. Feagin. He
gave me another cortisone injection in the
lower part of the top of my hand. He
asked me prior where the pain began. I
told him and he said that’s where the
radial nerve route was. So his goal was
to inject where the pain began. No
results. That evening, I did some
research on the internet. It seemed my
pain could be caused by bursitis or rsd.
After reading about reflex sympathetic
dystrophy (rsd), I prayed it was not
that.
2/11/05: my physical therapist, chuck
outlaw (p.T.), then referred me over to
southeast pain management. I had met
with Dr. Mark willis (anesthesiologist)
earlier. He had said a ganglia nerve
block should do the trick. Today, he did
the procedure. He told me within 5
seconds, the pain would be gone. Not!
He then told me I wouldn’t leave his
office in pain. He gave me 4 shots of
novocain directly into my right index
finger area. I still felt pain. He
told me he could cut my finger off right
now and I wouldn’t even know it. He
tested it by having my close my eyes and
look away. He asked what he was doing to
my finger. I told him he was digging his
finger nail under my finger nail. I
opened my eyes and saw the disbelief Dr.
Willis had. He said there was no way I
should have been able to feel that. I
left his office in pain. He recommended
trying a radial frequency (rf) on c-6/7.
He said those were the main nerve branches
that radiate out of the spinal cord into
my right hand area. He also wrote me a
prescription for more neurotin. He said
he wanted to build me up to 1800 mg of
neurotin per day. I began taking more
neurotin this evening.
2/21/05: went for cervical mri at
flower’s hospital in dothan. It showed
some minor to moderate herniation in
c-3/4. Most everyone I talked to said it
wasn’t significant to cause my finger
pain.
2/23/05: several days ago, I had spoken
with Dr. Ghori. He mentioned he had a
friend that did acupuncture. So today, I
had my first of 6 acupuncture treatments
administered by Dr. Bayer cheng
(anesthesiologist) here in dothan. Each
session lasted 30 minutes. Needles were
placed at various locations on my body.
He strategically placed electric
shots/pulses on certain needles. No
results.
2/24/05: 2nd acupuncture treatment.
2/25/05: 3rd acupuncture treatment.
2/27/05: 4th acupuncture treatment.
3/1/05: 5th acupuncture treatment.
3/3/05: 6th and last acupuncture
treatment with no results.
3/7/05: went to Dr. Willis office to
have the radial frequency (rf) performed
on c-6/7. He said it was the opposite of
the ganglia nerve block. He didn’t
guarantee that it would work though. It
was very painful. He went in through the
neck area. No results. He said to give
it several days though.
3/15/05: 1st consultation with Dr.
Hassan kesserwani (neurologist in ozark,
al). Dr. Kesserwani graduated from the
mayo clinic in minnesota. He came highly
recommended. Dr. Cheng referred me to
him. Dr. Kesserwani said it was a clear
case of digital neuritis. It was a form
of rsd but could be treated. He
suggested doing an emg next week to test
of the extensiveness of the nerve damage.
In the meantime, he game me several
lidoderm patches to attach to the highly
sensitive areas until my next appointment.
He said the problem is local and has
nothing to do with my back.
3/21/05: went back for 2nd visit with Dr.
Kesserwani. He started out by placing
some small sticky patches on different
parts of my right arm and right neck and
shoulder area. He then administered
small pulses of electricity. He came to
the conclusion that my right index finger
nerve was not damaged. He also did some
strength test and said everything appeared
normal. I told him that was fine, but my
finger is still hurting. We went back to
his office. He told me I needed to take
digital pictures of the finger. He said
there was clear discoloration in the areas
of highest pain. I told him at this
point that it’s my own body, and when I
lay down at night or turn my neck a
certain way, the pain continues to shoot
out. So I asked that he still conduct
the emg on me. He initial said it
wasn’t necessary after the electric
shock test. So he conducted the emg by
sticking a needle in my arm in different
locations and listened to the pitch. He
said there was some bad noises in the
c-56/ area. I reminded him that’s
where my disk was removed back on 11/4/04.
He said other than that, the emg was
negative. So it was not my back that is
causing all the problems. I even brought
the copy of my mri taken back on 2/21/05.
He didn’t see anything concerning to
him. He then drew a picture for me of my
nerve. He said the only thing he can
think of at this time is that I have
vasculitis. That is, not enough blood
supply is getting to the nerve. It was
probably due to some swelling and
inflammation from my back/neck area. He
recommended I get a solumedrol steroid (1
gram) per day for 3 days. It would be
administered through an iv placed on a one
hour drip cycle. He also wrote me a
prescription for zostrix crème (cayenne
pepper) to apply 3 to 4 times per day to
the injected area. He said it would
burn, but its purpose is to kill the small
pain fibers just under the skin. I will
see him again in 4 weeks for a follow
up.
3/22/05: I went back to see Dr. Willis
about my neck discomfort and tightness.
He earlier had recommended multiple local
anesthetic injections into the “trigger
points”. It should break down the
muscle spasms that were so tightly balled
up. I told him I was going in the next 3
mornings for my solumedrol treatments. I
was concerned about my blood sugar, since
I was diagnosed with diabetes 6 years ago.
He asked if it was under control. I
told him 6 months after I was diagnosed, I
was given a clean bill of health from my
family doctor, Dr. Edwin morriss iii
(internal medicine). I do not take any
insulin or medicine. It has been weight
controlled for the past 5 ½ years.
Hemoglobin a1c test have all been perfect
since then. Based on this information,
he said he could give me the injections
now without any problems. He gave me 10
shots in various trigger point areas.
3/23/05: 1st solumedrol iv injection done
at flower’s hospital. It took about an
hour. It wasn’t very bad. I
immediately experienced a metallic taste
in my mouth. It lasted till around 6pm
that evening. I also felt nervous,
jittery and anxious. I noticed my hands
very slightly shaking. Jeffery (rn) told
me these were very common side effects of
the solumedrol. He also told me to watch
my blood sugar and blood pressure. Also
said I might feel very hungry, which I
did. I checked my blood pressure before
bed. It was 150 over 95. I was very
concerned.
3/24/05: before I went in, I checked my
blood sugar. It was 195. Again, I was
very concerned. I did my 2nd solumedrol
treatment. I told jeffrey about the
nasty taste. He told me to suck on some
lemon drops or peppermints. All the side
effects came back. I felt anxiety all
day. But at 6pm, most of the feelings
went away. I also had trouble going to
sleep the night before.
3/24/05: I called Dr. Zeiger’s office
this afternoon. I spoke with gayla. I
told her the continued problems with my
finger. I wanted to see if Dr. Zeiger
could review my case and hopefully help me
or refer me to someone at uab. I told
her i’d gone to just about every local
specialist, and have been unsuccessful.
I mentioned it’s time for me to go out
of town. She said for me to fax her all
my notes (history). Dr. Zeiger would be
back in the office on monday and he’ll
review it. Then if he wants to see me,
we’ll set another appointment. Be sure
to bring a copy of my recent mri done in
the cervical area. I also received a
call back from chuck outlaw. He has a
specialist at uab that might be able to
help me.
3/25/05: I did not sleep well again. I
went in for my 3rd and last solumedrol
treatment. I checked my blood sugar
before the treatment. I was up to 205.
Again, they mentioned that once the
steroid filters through my body, my blood
sugar should go down to normal levels.
They checked my blood pressure. It was
125 over 64. I felt much better about
this.
3/25/05: current condition and
conclusion: initially, I had a small itch
in the right index finger knuckle. Over
several weeks, the itch developed into
severe pain. The pain grew to the tip of
my finger and radiated towards my wrist on
the top of the hand. I am scared this
pain will continue to extend up my arm.
Over the past 2 months, it has not
progressed. Pain is ignited when the
area is gently stroked or grazed. Also
laying down or turning my neck aggravates
it. Extremely hyper-sensitive! Hard
pressure or massaging feels good. On a
scale of 1-10, the pain is always a 3
(dull pain). But when aggravated (which
is often), it spikes to an 8. It is a
very sharp, stabbing shooting pain that
generates from the top of my hand to the
end of the finger. Fyi, the left side
and top of the index finger and a small
area from the right index knuckle down
towards the wrist is the most sensitive.
The right side of the index finger gives
me no problem. The rest of my hand and
fingers are in perfect condition. Total
duration of problem is approximately 5
months. At this point, all treatments
have failed. There is one interesting
footnote. I took a cruise to cozumel, mx
3/10/05 – 3/14/05. I drank plenty of
beer. I did not complain about my finger
one time. Somehow, it must have had a
numbing effect on the nerve pain sensors.
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sean3381
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 28 Mar 2005 Posts: 5 Location: Alabama
Possible Answer? Posted: 04-06-05 11:37am
On 4/6/05, I met with my original
neurosurgeon, Dr. Zeiger in b'ham. I
told him my wife accidently bumped my arm
and I experienced the shooting pain in my
finger. We experimented by touching the
same area again. The same result, severe
pain. So I mentioned this to Dr.
Zeiger. He has come to the conclusion
that I have another pinched nerve in
c-6/7. And it will have to be removed.
I go in next tuesday for a mylogram. They
will inject dye into my neck/upper back
area to define the pinched nerve. If
you've read my story, do you think this is
the correct conclusion? Any thoughts
would be greatly appreciated!