Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 04-11-05 17:29pm
foreverblue
wrote:
human or animal steen
because it most definitly is not a natural
way for a human being to die,it might be
in your sick and twisted mind but not in
the rest of the civilised
world
yes, you are indeed
stupid and ignorant. "natural" is what
happens without artificial intervention.
And yes, without technology, most people
would indeed starve to death. Any thing
else you can be ignorant about?
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 04-11-05 17:34pm
where_is_the_line
wrote:
death from dehydration
and/or starvation is "natural." however,
purposefully not feeding or hydrating
someone to achieve the objective of death
is not very
natural.
actually, no medical care
ever is "natural" as is no treatment, or
placing anybody on or off life support.
Terri couldn't swallow on her own.
Without the tube, she could not eat or
drink to begin with. So how natural is
anything relating to the treatment and its
termination?
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-11-05 21:27pm
Mousy..
Lmfgdao.
doing it douche bag.
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-12-05 00:58am
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
human or animal steen
because it most definitly is not a natural
way for a human being to die,it might be
in your sick and twisted mind but not in
the rest of the civilised
world
yes, you are indeed
stupid and ignorant. "natural" is what
happens without artificial intervention.
And yes, without technology, most people
would indeed starve to death. Any
thing else you can be ignorant
about?
no steen I am not stupid,nor am I
ignorant.Are you trying to tell me that
food is technology,eating is a natural
thing,not eating is not natural therefore
starving to death is not a natural way for
a human being to die.If without technology
most people would starve to death,how come
they have'nt and did'nt two hundred years
ago in america?Are you not capable of
answering a post decently or are you so
insecure in your argument you need to
deflect attention away from the argument
by throwing out silly baseless insults.Why
do you get so irate steen you are not a
female so it should not affect you so
bad,and don't give me that bs about your
patients because according to you they
have no need for people like you after an
abortion,remember steen,pas.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 04-12-05 19:11pm
foreverblue
wrote:
no steen I am not stupid,nor
am I
ignorant.
sure you are.
Quote:
are you trying to
tell me that food is technology,eating is
a natural thing,not eating is not natural
therefore starving to death is not a
natural way for a human being to
die.
nope, only if you are
stupid can you read that from my post.
But technology is what keeps a steady food
supply throughout the eyar, without which
you would indeed starve.
Quote:
if without
technology most people would starve to
death,how come they have'nt and did'nt
two hundred years ago in
america?
many did. Or are you to
ignorant to know this. And anyway,
plenty of technology was around 200 years
ago. Now, if you go 5000 years back,
then you get more of the "natural"
picture.
Quote:
are you not
capable of answering a post
decently
if the poster is decent,
then I am. You and jlee have both shown
yourself to be lying, stupid troll
scumbags, so why should I bother?
Quote:
why do you get so
irate steen
i always get irate with
stinking liars. You two creep have
deliberately lied many times.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 04-12-05 19:49pm
You know what steen, I will agree with you
there. Foreverblue and jlee messed up
one site, putting this one down, now they
are trying to mess up this one but what
can we expect, as I said before, they seem
to think a lot alike, they are nothing but
a couple of low-life pro-lifers.
Sincerely,
sandy
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 04-12-05 19:53pm
sandyallen
wrote:
you know what steen, I will
agree with you there. Foreverblue and
jlee messed up one sight, putting this one
down, now they are trying to mess up this
one but what can we expect, as I said
before, they seem to think a lot alike,
they are nothing but a couple of low-life
pro-lifers.
Sincerely,
sandy
and they don't disappoint
us, continuing to be unable to admit when
they are wrong, instead further royally
screwing up and showing how willing
prolife is to outright lie. Nothing they
do can surprise us (other than perhaps
turn honest?).
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-13-05 01:55am
steen
wrote:
sandyallen
wrote:
you know what steen, I will
agree with you there. Foreverblue and
jlee messed up one sight, putting this one
down, now they are trying to mess up this
one but what can we expect, as I said
before, they seem to think a lot alike,
they are nothing but a couple of low-life
pro-lifers.
Sincerely,
sandy
and they don't disappoint
us, continuing to be unable to admit when
they are wrong, instead further royally
screwing up and showing how willing
prolife is to outright lie. Nothing
they do can surprise us (other than
perhaps turn
honest?).
you pair are a double act that should be
on stage,first of all steen I am no liar
that is reserved for you,as I have proved
many times before.You shout liar from the
rooftops then hide under the desk,like the
coward you are when asked to provide
evidence\proof,so you and her,who I am
sure is either your wife or your secretary
as she usually only posts to stick up for
you,can go off in your little world and
believe what you want,ah but you will
still come here spouting your lies and bs
calling people names, because you have no
foundation for your arguments.You never
have and never will have any honesty or
integrity.So steen go find yourself a good
proctologist and get your head out of your
arse.
Ps if you want people to believe your
lies about being a doctor,then you really
should learn to spell and formulate your
arguments a lot better steen.
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-13-05 04:37am
sandyallen
wrote:
you know what steen, I will
agree with you there. Foreverblue and
jlee messed up one site, putting this one
down, now they are trying to mess up this
one but what can we expect, as I said
before, they seem to think a lot alike,
they are nothing but a couple of low-life
pro-lifers.
Sincerely,
sandy
and that is a surprise,why?All you ever do
is agree with him get an opinion of your
own why don't you
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-13-05 05:05am
If the poster is decent, then I am. You
and jlee have both shown yourself to be
lying, stupid troll scumbags, so why
should I bother?
When have you ever been decent lying
hypocrite,why do you cowardly hide from
questions only putting what you feel like
putting in your posts,are you actually
capable of reading steen,you seem to have
missed a lot of parts in that post.As I
have proved time after time steen I am not
the liar you are and I keep proving it.To
put it in terms you may understand
steen,you are a liar,hypocrite,cowardly
scumbag,if and I mean a big if,you are a
doctor you should have your medical
license recinded,if you even have
one,which I doubt,you do not have the
communication skills required to be a
decent physician,you cannot listen to
anybody you are arrogant and morally
degenerative,no one believes a word you
say steen,because I have proven so many
times that you lie constantly.
Stop trying to project your own
inadequacies onto other people,take
control of your life,accept responsibility
for your mistakes and stop trying to shift
the blame onto others.Now I know you are
going to come back with a insulting
post,so at least try and get some new ones
eh yours are old and boring,try and build
up your vocabulary you really should learn
some more words,having only a limited
vocabulary must be so frustrating for you
steen.
Now why don't you go away and learn
something about honesty and
integrity,something you have no knowledge
of.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 04-13-05 10:48am
:roll:
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-13-05 10:54am
steen
wrote:
:roll:
what a coward you are proving to be lying
scumbag troll
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-13-05 17:45pm
Steen - please don't do the immature
little eye rolly thing that some *other*
immature person over uses.
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FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 04-14-05 11:59am
Happy bday jlee
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FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 04-14-05 12:01pm
Oooops sorry i'm late but hey everyone has
blonde moments sometime :lol:
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-14-05 12:03pm
Quote:
it's not our
faults that a :roll: is all your worthy
of.
awww, look. Someone though she was being
talked to again.
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-14-05 13:32pm
Quote:
oh yes...You
could not have been talking to me. :roll:
obviously you have a guilty mind or you
wouldn't have thought it was you....Right?
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
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2ferano
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 23 Dec 2003 Posts: 3717
Posted: 04-21-05 15:55pm
She was starved to death? Yes, because
she couldn't feed herself. What was done
was done because it was believed to be her
wishes. You nor I can say either way if
it was or wasn't because we don't know.
We have to trust that her husband did what
she wanted. As I said before, if you
don't trust your spouse to make these
decisions for you then don't be married to
them! And make sure you have a living
will. We can fight about this topic all
day long for years and it will solve
nothing. Starving to death is a natural
way of dying. Sad, yes. And I wish
there was a better way to let her die, but
that was the only way. That is what
happens when you have to be on a kind of
life support and it is decided for it to
be taken away. So, if you want to be
kept "alive" for years upon years then
make sure your living will says that. I
personally, don't want to live life in a
vegetative state. That's not living. In
my opinion that would be a form of hell.
Being forced to stay here incoherent.
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if she could speak
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 14 May 2005 Posts: 1 Location: Phoenix, AZ
Posted: 05-14-05 21:24pm
jlee77
wrote:
steen
wrote:
jlee77
wrote:
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
nature was'nt allowed to
take it's natural course bd she was
starved to death that is not natures
way
in the temperate and
artic parts of the world, over half of all
of nature's deaths are due to
starvation
that is very telling that you think that
starving to death is an acceptable way to
die
and again, prolifers lie
like if they are unable not to. I
didn't say anything about "acceptable."
you made claims about starvation being
unnatural, and I merely pointed out that
you were wrong.
That you seek to misrepresent this merely
shows how incredibly dishonest you
actually are.
It is very telling how much prolifers
lie.
you think starving is natural?
Really?!
imbecille illiterate
person, yes in nature, many deaths happen
from starvation. So yes, it is very
natural.
What part of "natural" don't you
get?
haha. What a freak you are.
You would think starving is natural.
Your an fool, what else would I expect.
And you yourself are a freak of nature so
i'm wrong for assuming otherwise.
Now...What part of that don't you get
freak? Death is natural, not starving
you "imbecille illiterate person". Got
it?
somebody needs to go back to the third
grade - how are you going to call somebody
an fool when you have problems spelling
"you're" correctly?
