1. Eric, those are some
pretty harsh words. You shouldn't be
passing judgement on people in here.
2. Marijuana is not a depressant. It
is a hallucinagenic.
3. You can't put marijuana in the same
catagory as cocaine, heroin, ect. It's
not a manufacture substance. If so you
should label alcohol and ciggettes as
well. I can say this much. Alcohol
is 10 times worst than any weed.
4. I have self medicated my depression
with weed for many years. Without it I
would probably be dead. I had to go
through alot of bad crap at a very young
age causing me to grow up way to quick.
Later leading to suicidal thoughts.
Weed just makes me not think about what
bothers me. I don't drink or do any
other drugs. Just
pot.
ok I totally disagree with you
1. When I was in my loser rebelious
stage trying weed,along with a few other
drugs; I never remember seeing pink
elephants or anything while smoking it so
it can't be a hallucinagenic,( it would
have to be laced with a nother drug) it
never made me hyper so its definitly not
a stimulent..What did it make me...Lazy!
Oh and alcohol is labled as a drug if you
havent heard! Its a depressant, why do
you think people go to aa meetings?
2. Eric didn't seem as though he was
passing judgment to me, he was simply
telling you the harsh truth, drugs,
including weed can ruin peoples lives, and
not just the person whos doing them!
3. Self medicating yourself with weed
and espically for depression, is the
dumbest thing anyone can do! Your
running away from the problems and not
dealing with reality!!! When the drug
wares away guess what? The problem is
still there, so your just going to smoke
another joint and kill some more brian
cells! Hey maybe it will kill your
memory, then you wont remember anything..
That might help!
4. Did you hear about the drug dealers
surgiclly putting the drugs actually
inside puppies. Why would you buy it
from careless dealers like that dosn't
matter what dealer your getting it
from..........Just because of that anyone
who buys any drug illegally is a
worthless wast of oxygen in my book! Can
you imagine how much pain the puppies were
in!
5. I'm not against it being used
medically! If it will help someone cope
with cancer, ms, or any other
dibilitating disease let them have
it
I don't buy weed from people who put
it in poor little puppies! And I am not a
waste of oxygen and if you look it up it
is not a hallucinagenic it i.S. A
depressant.People go to aa meetings
because they have problems with alcohol.
Weed has a differnet affect on everyone
and just because you were lazy does not
mean it makes everyone else that way. I
am not a loser and whoever labels them
selves as a loser for smoking made
themselves that way. I am not a loser, I
have a nice job and I am smart so I see no
problem with it unless it is abused!
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fatfamily02
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 20 Jul 2005 Posts: 3050 Location: Georgia, USA
Posted: 02-06-06 13:46pm
They wouldn't waste their time putting
marijuanna in a puppy--it was either
cocaine, meth or heroin in the puppy's. I
know it was in a liguid form. And that
is so sick for them to do stuff like that
to those poor little puppy's.
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 02-06-06 14:10pm
I agree fatfamily, they should not be so
cruel to animals! I saw this show on tv
once where this guy put cocaine inside of
breast implants and put them in girls so
that he could get it into the us! I
thought that was messed up.
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penelope67
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Location: NH
Posted: 02-21-06 18:50pm
It was heroin in the puppies for crying
out loud. Marijuana is not a bad drug,
but some people cannot use it because of
psychological issues. Example-my best
friend used to smoke every day, but then
she couldnt anymore, because it made her
feel really weird and out of touch, and
just not right. She stayed in that mind
set until she met a guy she really liked
who smoked pot, and now she smokes again.
It can be very psychological-it is not an
addictive drug unless you rely on it
mentally. There is no physical addiction.
I've never heard of anyone having a
marijuana withdrawal. I dont see in any
way how pot can be bad. I think alcohol
is way worse. Thats not to say anything,
because I drink all the time. I smoke
because it helps me relax when I get home,
and it makes me feel good and it makes me
happy. By the way, pot might make you
feel like you are lazy but let me tell you
my boyfriend gets motivated by it and I
have found that I have never done a better
job at anything then when I am high,
because it really makes you focus. My
boyfriend always says he is taking his
focus factor. I am also a lot more
intelligent when I smoke. My mind is open
to so many more things when I am high. I
am able to think conceptually rather than
analytically and its very enlightening.
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Melissa_20
Especially EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Jan 2006 Posts: 6806 Location: Florida
Posted: 02-22-06 10:21am
Thank you penelope! Exactly what I wanted
to say!
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 02-27-06 12:07pm
It has given me anxiety and made me
depressed again
i have started halucinating dont touch the
stuff drugs are evil
let me tell you all
something it should be used in medical
purposes only... The reason why I say
that is because my father did drugs and
now he has ruined my family stay away from
drugs they are stupid you don't need them
listen to me....Drugs are for no good low
down losers who can't keep a job so they
need something to "relax" them grow up
this is life you can't always have
something to depend on....Don't ruin your
life or someone
elses
here here, i'm single and 9 months
pregnant because of pot. It's just as bad
as any other drugs out there...Just
because you can't really overdose and
.D.I.E off pot (you can get seriously
dehydrated...And then die) doesn't mean it
isn't just as stupid as doing coke, or
meth, or anything else. I've never seen
anyone of class smoke pot, it's all been
trailertrash (ex, and his family
included).
Maybe that's harsh and people who smoke it
are reading this, but that's how I feel,
pot ruined my life, and my "family".
Someone that was supposed to love me
decided that the drug was more important
then his child and his "true love" as he
put it. He grew up around his parents
smoking it and thought that it was okay,
but guess what, it's a drug, used to
escape reality, i've tried it myself
before and there is nothing great about
it.
But if your all for it, well that's your
choice I guess, and the best of luck too
you. I hope you don't ruin somones life
doing it.
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 02-27-06 18:26pm
Listen to the above if u do it now look at
how u have changed it aint good for u and
u know it kick it I did recently
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penelope67
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Location: NH
Posted: 02-27-06 18:58pm
I appreciate all the advice, but I
explained myself above, and I believe pot
makes me a better person in general, but I
know many people that it makes them a much
worse person. It is different for
everyone. Its not nice to tell everyone
that they had better stop doing something
when you have no idea how it affects them.
People that know people personally are
better to give advice to them and if pot
affects someone in a bad way, i'm sure
someone that knows them has told them they
have a problem when it comes to smoking
weed. No one has ever told me that, in
fact I have been told just the opposite.
So what makes you think I will listen to
someone who doesnt even know me. Not a
chance. Wrong party, people. Oh and
a response to the 2nd post up from mine-i
am most certainly not trailer trash, and I
do not classify people by that term
either, because its kind of judgemental.
Just because someone lives in a trailer,
does not mean they are a bad person-maybe
thats something you should think about.
Also-i have smoked pot for many many years
and never once have hallucinated off
it-sounds like the person you were getting
it from wasnt very trustworthy.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 02-27-06 19:19pm
I think it works differently for different
people. Are you on a anti-depressent?
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 02-28-06 15:15pm
If that question was to me
no but maybe I should be
write back
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quicksilver024
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 35
Posted: 03-01-06 10:47am
Well, my first post, but i'm not just
joining because of this topic.
I have some mixed experiences with
cannabis. Firstly
classic psychedelics include lsd (acid),
psilocybin (magic mushrooms), mescaline
(peyote), lsa (morning glory seeds) and
also ayahuasca (yage). Some of the
synthetic "club drugs" such as mdma
(ecstasy), 2c-b (nexus), dom (stp) and
5-meo-dipt (foxy methoxy) which have much
more specific action to particular aspects
of the psyche are also classed as
psychedelics, as well as cannabis
(marijuana).
Not a depressant, hallucinogen doesnt mean
you "trip" from smoking it. However, has
anyone ever taken a high dose... I.E.
Eating pot brownies, personally I have
seen pink elephants, ingesting about
3.5grams. Also I dont get tired from pot,
I do however get very tired and often
depressed from alcohol.
Currently I just quit marijuana this
month, had been tappering off it for 3
months. I didnt quit because it was
ruining my life and I quit voluntarily. I
had been smoking everyday for 13 years, I
only smoked late at night, always held a
full time job, never have been fired, and
am a responsible adult. The amount of
people on this thread listing government
propaganda is ridiculous, how can you
trust the damn government.
The potency of cannabis actually hasnt
increased since the 1960's, just the
methods of cultivation. For example, lets
say in the 60's you grew some pot out in
your yard, okay its probably not the
greatest genetics, and you might not be
much of an expert. It's going to have the
same relative potency of todays "super
pot" but your going to yield less, and it
will most likely be more leafy. Today
people grow indoors because of govt
helicopters, anyone ever wonder why there
are black helicopters all over in august?
Indoors pot is grown under ideal
conditions and manicured, cured and
packaged more professionally. Which is a
good thing, you dont have to smoke as much
to get high.
Pot is not cut with meth or chemicals,
thats bs, maybe some dealers do it for
some odd reason, but when your trying to
run a business, are you going to lace weed
with other drugs that cost money? Heck
no. Even if the bud has no potency
someone can still sell it.
Most pot since 9/11 is grown within the
country, how do I know? From experience,
havent seen foreign bud, except from
canada in years.
Many of you I agree with here on this
subject which is why i'm chimming in. I
have a wife a great job am a college grad,
who working on his masters, i've done a
lot of drugs, except the bad ones....
Crack. Meth...Coke.... Heroin.. Those
should by all means erradicated from
society.
The class issue is bs, whomever said that,
you must live around a lot of rednecks,
because i've smoked with many very
successfull people, lawyers, doctors,
police even. You dont know these people
smoke, because they dont want you to know,
you think a lawyer's gonna be yappin his
mouth about his personal habits, when he
could be disbared.
This is prohibition, smart cannabis users
are just that, they dont get caught, they
dont get put in the police blotter of the
newspaper.
As for the effects; they vary from person
to person and from the strain (type) of
cannabis. There are thousands of breeds
now, all having different medical
purposes.
As for pychiatric conditions; marijuana
has a tendency to bring out latent
pychological disorders. Like if someone
in your family was schizophrenic, then you
better not smoke, because it may come out.
The fact that the government lies and
cover the actual effects and precautions,
leads to these misconceptions. If they
told the truth, a lot of people would know
whether cannabis is for them or not.
I smoked personally first for insomnia,
which worked great, then I developed
serious back problems, which I also used
cannabis to relieve, instead of harmfull
and far far more addictive narcotics. I
also used for anxiety, which yes some
cannabis can give you anxiety, but mostly
sativa dominant strains, indica strains
are better for anxiety. Sativas are more
suited to depression, since they act more
as an upper, which is where pot can
actually motivate. I quit because I need
to have a drug test for a job and need to
save some money for a move, but I quit, I
feel just a great as before and no
withdrawal.
No one should smoke or consume cannabis
without research into your medical
history, honesty is commended by doctors
and many agree cannabis has uses, but you
should talk to a doctor first.
I recognise that cannabis isnt a cure all,
nor is for everyone, far from it. The
fact that it is illicit leads to abuse,
imagine if anti-depressants were illegal
and on the black market. Kids snorting
zoloft and taking effexor for a quick get
me up. You'd have the same problems,
mental disorders, overdoses, and the list
could go on forever.
I'm done with my rant for now, probably
only the people that dont condone the use,
with actually read all of this, but it
happens to be one of my specialties. Ask
away.
If your wondering, i'm neither a cannabis
dealer nor cultivator, just well
education and informed on the subject and
the legalization movement.
Sorry for any spelling error, i'm in a bit
of a rush.
~silver
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penelope67
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Location: NH
Posted: 03-01-06 11:26am
As a matter of fact-i do condone the use
of marijuana and I read that whole post-i
could read it again. It's refreshing to
hear someone who knows what they are
talking about around here. Thank you- I
learned some things, too. I totally agree
with you about why would someone lace
their pot they were selling with other
more expensive drugs-it's stupid, but I
would imagine some people do that so their
customers can get hooked on the laced drug
and keep coming back for more. So maybe
they are looking for more repeat
customers. Just an idea.
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AEinstein
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 29
Posted: 03-01-06 11:58am
Maruajuana is not a hallucinigentic it is
a product of the hemp plant, cannabis
sativa.
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penelope67
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Location: NH
Posted: 03-01-06 12:05pm
Ok einstein-learn how to spell, although
pot doesnt make everyone hallucinate, it
is still classified as a hallucinogenic.
Like he said-if you have enough of it, it
can make you hallucinate
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AEinstein
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 21 Dec 2005 Posts: 29
Posted: 03-01-06 12:22pm
penelope67
wrote:
ok einstein-learn how to
spell, although pot doesnt make everyone
hallucinate, it is still classified as a
hallucinogenic. Like he said-if you have
enough of it, it can make you
hallucinate
excuse me????? I really dont know what
is with the attitude. Sorry if I type
quickly & dont bother with spell check
"hallucinogenic". The hostility is
uncalled for and abit pathetic. I am
extremely interested where you will find
this listed as a hallucinogen. Please
provide me with a link which states this
fact. If you eat enough of sinus
medication that can cause you to see
things as well, and I do not believe that
sudafed is classified as such. I am not
claiming that I am correct with this
accusation, I am only hypothesizing. Oh,
incase you are confused: hypothesizing =
stating an unproven theory of opinion.
Thanks, hugs & kisses.
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w0rldd0minat0r
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 26 Feb 2006 Posts: 238
Posted: 03-01-06 12:30pm
Lol my mate sees smurphs when he has too
much!!!
And I have seen 4 townies running towards
me lol!
It does make u hallucinate
watch out when buying some dealers put
stuff in it
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penelope67
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Jan 2006 Posts: 114 Location: NH
Posted: 03-01-06 13:45pm
"cannabis is an ancient hallucinogenic
drug derived from the hemp plant. The
plant is not indigenous to any particular
area and may be found growing wild almost
anywhere. The term "marijuana" commonly
refers to the flowering tops and leaves of
the plant cannabis sativa l, or to any
part of the plant that induces psychic
change. Ic 35-48-1-19 defines marijuana
as "all parts of the plant genus cannabis,
whether growing or not; the seeds thereof;
the resin extracted from any part of the
plant, including hashish and hash oil. "
well, there's that fact cleared up. And
to back up what I said earlier:
"while there is no evidence of consistent
tolerance or physical dependence on the
drug, there is evidence of strong
psychological dependence. The subjective
effects of the drug are dependent upon
various factors, including the dosage,
means of administration, the personality
of the user and circumstances in which it
is used. The degree of harmful long-term
side effects of the drug is a source of
debate among the scientific community. "
sorry for the attitude, I was just kidding
around-didnt mean to offend you. And by
the way, I know what a hypothesis is.
Thank you
here's the link for the above info:
http://www
.Clarkprosecutor.Org/html/substnce/mari.Ht
m
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quicksilver024
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 01 Mar 2006 Posts: 35
Posted: 03-01-06 18:30pm
Thankyou for the appreciative reply
penelope, I believe most americans are not
ignorant on this subject by choice, but
more or less subjects of a manipulative
government, that is influenced highly by
pharmacuetical companies, paper
industries, energy conglomerates, and a
drug war that gives police something to do
and gives the military billions of dollars
to wage secret wars.
Btw, its definetely is hallucinogenic,
find me a reputable source that says
otherwise, not including the dea website
:wink:
