This was posted a long time ago but I just
have to say something about what someone
said (("well if the fetus doesn't want to
be aborted.. Then it shouldn't have
invaded her body")) I didnt go on reading
because I didnt want to hear any more sad
and evil statements like that one!! How
in the world could anyone even say that ..
I know!- if you are evil or have a
corrupt mind! Yes the mother may go
through a lot during pregnancy but hell if
she didnt want a baby use protection!!!!
It is soooooooooo not that babys fault
that the 'dummy' didnt use or make someone
use some type of protection or keep her
legs closed! "invaded" her body what the
hell kind of psychotic health question are
you?!! If something "invaded" her body
it's her fault. Maybe I should keep my
thoughts to myself which I usually do but
on this one that was just to hard to do.
I think you or anyone else with that type
of attitude should keep your thoughts and
comments to yourselves !!!
Abortion is just wrong unless it is
...Medical, rape, incest<<::gross::,
etc
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-18-05 00:04am
Mmm, I don't agree :lol:
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oopoopoop
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Posted: 04-18-05 05:05am
Well, gosh, doesn't that just contribute a
whole lot to a debate on abortion.
Someone thinks it is wrong, oh boy, what a
revelation. There ya go -- if you think
it is wrong to have an abortion, then
don't have one. Next?
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FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 04-18-05 05:55am
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong, oh
boy, what a revelation. There ya go --
if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
was there really any need for this? The
poster was merly expressing an opinion if
you found no intrest in his opinion then
surely the best option would be to just
not respond.
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 04-18-05 11:32am
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong, oh
boy, what a revelation. There ya go --
if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
so the debate forum is just for
people who think abortion is ok?
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 04-18-05 13:45pm
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong,
oh boy, what a revelation. There ya go
-- if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
so the debate forum is just for
people who think abortion is
ok?
I believe what poo was
implying is that the debate
forum is for debate. Inflammatory
comments such as those which started this
thread do not lead to meaningful dialogue
on the issue. They, at least on this
board, regularly lead to insulting
matches. The comments and opinions while
relevant to that person do not foster the
idea of a free exchange of ideas.
I, myself, ignored them when I read them
because I knew how they would end. I
reply now only to try to keep people from
resulting to insulting one another at this
juncture.
Peace,
jenn
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Kourtney08
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 May 2004 Posts: 937 Location: Alaska
Posted: 04-18-05 14:18pm
<<<well, gosh, doesn't that just
contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong, oh
boy, what a revelation. There ya go -- if
you think it is wrong to have an abortion,
then don't have one. Next?>>>
i'm sorry, was I supposed to write a
paragraph debating *that* topic? *laughs
in your face*
run along, poo poo
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 04-18-05 14:21pm
jenn_smithson
wrote:
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong,
oh boy, what a revelation. There ya go
-- if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
so the debate forum is just for
people who think abortion is
ok?
I believe what poo was
implying is that the debate
forum is for debate. Inflammatory
comments such as those which started this
thread do not lead to meaningful dialogue
on the issue. They, at least on this
board, regularly lead to insulting
matches. The comments and opinions
while relevant to that person do not
foster the idea of a free exchange of
ideas.
I, myself, ignored them when I read them
because I knew how they would end. I
reply now only to try to keep people from
resulting to insulting one another at this
juncture.
Peace,
jenn
sorry jenn but I cannot believe what I am
reading here are you saying that it is ok
for poopoo to make inflamatory
comments,because has you can see it was
inflammatory yet I see you are still only
pulling pro lifers again.
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Lukitsme03 Posted: 04-18-05 19:31pm
Just because it is wrong in your eyes,
does not make it wrong in other peoples
eyes and lives and who are you or I that
has the right to judge any pregnant
female, especially those that are not
financially and mainly psychologically
ready to continue on w/pregnancy and fyi,
bc does fail. You want more children out
there running around being abused,
neglected, molested, unfed, unloved
because you insist on not allowing a
pregnant female to abort, this is her
right and her choice . I see this soooo
much where the father of the fetus will
practically beg the mother of the fetus to
not have an abortion, that he will take
care of all of them and then things blow
up, he leaves or other things happen, she
cannot go on and then the child suffers
and then it gets dropped in social
services lap.
Oh and then you might say that there is
adoption, yea, and 51% of adoptions fail
and alot of the adoptions end up in foster
homes and they do not get adopted.
People need to open up there minds and get
out there and see what goes on in the real
world.
Sincerely,
sandy
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Poopoopoo Posted: 04-18-05 19:35pm
I agree w/ya, if ya don't want an
abortion, then don't have one. Do not
judge others for having one as you are not
walking in there shoes.
Sincerely,
sandy
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Lukitsme03
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 39
Posted: 04-18-05 19:47pm
Well I see what you are trying to say I
guess but why kill the baby because of her
mistake the baby didn’t ask to be put
inside of 'her' (a person that wont take
care of herself) but it happened and its
her fault not the baby’s, (so now would
be a good time for her to grow up and take
care of herself )so if she doesn't have
enough responsibility to take care of it
put it up for adoption.I believe that if
someone tried and actually cared (which
most ppl in the situation don't care)that
they could find a good family for that
baby! I understand that she will be going
through alot during those 9months but..
She shouldnt have put herself in the
position of something like that happening
if she can't face the consequences. Thats
my say. I will shut up now (i guess)
if you arent financially stable .. Thats
why they have medicaid and other things
like that
one more thing. Like I said be4... If
you don't want a kid or don't want to go
through pregnancy use your mind and use
protection and if thats to hard keep your
legs closed or keep ur stuff in your
pants
(yes this is what I replied to someone
else to, cause I said this is all I would
say)
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Lukitsme03
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 39
Posted: 04-18-05 20:02pm
Thanks I wont have one. I may not be
walking in there shoes you know why im
not? Because first of all I wouldnt have
an abortion and I myself wouldnt give it
up for an adoption either and second of
all if I didn't want a baby then I would
be smart enough to use some form of
protection
i am against abortion. Obviously you're
not this is a debate and I will judge that
I think abortion is wrong if I want to
just like you can judge its not, thanks
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sandyallen
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Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
Posted: 04-18-05 20:24pm
I am not 100% for abortion either but I am
pro-choice and I help those that want an
abortion and those who do not want an
abortion it is about being pro-choice, who
I am and what I do and what I believe
in.
Sincerely,
sandy
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where_is_the_line
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 173 Location: USA: NY & DC
Posted: 04-19-05 01:46am
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong, oh
boy, what a revelation. There ya go --
if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
well, let's apply that to other things
that some people may find wrong.
If you think terrorism is wrong, don't do
it.
If you think rape is wrong, don't rape
people.
If you think child molestation is wrong,
don't molest.
Etc etc etc
so if your consolation to me is don't
partake in what is damaging to society,
but expect that I would not want to help
minimize these tragic events from
occuring, where would we really be if we
all took your advice?
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where_is_the_line
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Jul 2004 Posts: 173 Location: USA: NY & DC
Re: Lukitsme03 Posted: 04-19-05 01:53am
sandyallen
wrote:
just because it is wrong in
your eyes, does not make it wrong in other
peoples eyes
fine, but there is still only one truth.
You're correct that one individual opinion
does not necessarily speak for the entire
truth, but all opinions are not equal.
Some people see adults having sex with
children as wrong. There are people who
may disagree. It is still wrong.
"the tree comes to me."
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Lukitsme03
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 39
Re: Lukitsme03 Posted: 04-19-05 12:24pm
where_is_the_line
wrote:
sandyallen
wrote:
just because it is wrong in
your eyes, does not make it wrong in other
peoples eyes
fine, but there is still only one truth.
You're correct that one individual opinion
does not necessarily speak for the entire
truth, but all opinions are not equal.
Some people see adults having sex with
children as wrong. There are people who
may disagree. It is still wrong.
"the tree comes to
me."
well said.I agree!
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Posted: 04-19-05 16:26pm
foreverblue
wrote:
jenn_smithson
wrote:
lil_blaze2004
wrote:
poopoopoo
wrote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is wrong,
oh boy, what a revelation. There ya
go -- if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
so the debate forum is just for
people who think abortion is
ok?
I believe what poo was
implying is that the debate
forum is for debate. Inflammatory
comments such as those which started this
thread do not lead to meaningful dialogue
on the issue. They, at least on this
board, regularly lead to insulting
matches. The comments and opinions
while relevant to that person do not
foster the idea of a free exchange of
ideas.
I, myself, ignored them when I read them
because I knew how they would end. I
reply now only to try to keep people from
resulting to insulting one another at this
juncture.
Peace,
jenn
sorry jenn but I cannot believe what I am
reading here are you saying that it is ok
for poopoo to make inflamatory
comments,because has you can see it was
inflammatory yet I see you are still only
pulling pro lifers
again.
.Again, as in the other
thread, I responded to the first post that
I saw that I thought I could better
explain. Clearly, there was a
misunderstanding present and I sought to
illeviate the problem before it became an
issue. I explained what I felt poo was
saying but if you'd like, i'd be more than
glad to disect this thread as I did the
other one.
Lukitsme03's entire post which began this
thread was inflammatory. It is not meant
to foster a meaningful civil dialogue and
I think we can all agree that it will only
lead to a pissing contest.
Kourtney08 responded kindly that she
simply disagrees. Oh, if only more
people would take the higher road such as
kourtney did.
Poo then responded with:
Quote:
well, gosh, doesn't that
just contribute a whole lot to a debate on
abortion. Someone thinks it is
wrong, oh boy, what a revelation. There ya
go -- if you think it is wrong to have an
abortion, then don't have one.
Next?
poo, like I did with my
post, was pointing out that the entire
post which began this thread was only
meant to inflame. Yes, poo's reply was
inflammatory itself.
Lil_blaze2004 then responded with:
Quote:
so the debate
forum is just for people who think
abortion is
ok?
in reply to poo's
previous post. I believe that blaze
missed the point of poo's post which is
why I responded afterward in an attempt to
clear up the misunderstanding.
i
wrote:
i believe what poo was
implying is that the debate
forum is for debate. Inflammatory
comments such as those which started this
thread do
not lead to meaningful dialogue on the
issue. They, at least on this
board, regularly lead to insulting
matches. The comments and opinions
while relevant to that person do not foster
the idea of a free exchange of
ideas.
I, myself, ignored them when I read them
because I knew how they would end. i reply now only
to try to keep people from resulting to
insulting one another at this
juncture.
Peace,
jenn
I was merely trying to
explain why poo posted what they did and
what the actual point of their previous
post was since it seemed to be leading to
a misunderstanding.
In answer to your question, .No, I do not
believe that it is "ok for poopoo to make
inflammatory comments." I was not
responding to *.Everyone's* inflammatory
comments *.A.T. A.L.L.* I was actually
responding to the misunderstanding that I
felt was brewing. Again, just so that
we're both straight on the issue, I was
not pulling out instances of inflammatory
speech. If I had been, then I would most
certainly have included poopoo's
statement. I was attempting to address a
misunderstanding, *that is all*. If you
can keep a misunderstanding from turning
into an argument coupled with rounds of
insults, then you should. I was only
attempting to explain another's post to
end the misunderstanding.
Peace,
jenn
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jenn_smithson
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 15 Nov 2004 Posts: 808 Location: Texas
Re: Lukitsme03 Posted: 04-19-05 16:36pm
where_is_the_line
wrote:
sandyallen
wrote:
just because it is wrong in
your eyes, does not make it wrong in other
peoples eyes
fine, but there is still only one truth.
You're correct that one individual opinion
does not necessarily speak for the entire
truth, but all opinions are not equal.
Some people see adults having sex with
children as wrong. There are people who
may disagree. It is still wrong.
"the tree comes to
me."
while I think we can
all agree that there are things that are
completely wrong, with regards to abortion
you cannot. Adults having sex with
children is always wrong because it
hurts a child who is incapable of
understanding. Pedephilia(sp?) is a
deviant disorder. However, it is not
analogous to compare it with abortion.
If there were one absolute truth with
regards to abortion, then we would all
believe it without deviation. The
principle would be easily seen and
understood and no one would be able to
falter against it. This is readily not
the case. Many different people believe
many different things with regards to
abortion worldwide.
Adults who believe that it is not wrong to
have sex with children are suffering under
a deviant disorder. Therefore,
discounting their obviously wrong,
disordered opinions on the matter, you are
left with everyone else who agrees on the
consensus that adults having sex with
children is wrong.
Conversely, even in spite of some people's
opinions, there is no deviant thought
process that can be discounted when
considering the beliefs on abortion.
Even people within the different camps
(pro-choice and pro-life) believe
differently. There are some pro-life
people who believe that abortion should be
illegal in some cases, others still
believe that abortion should be legal for
rape/incest, and still others believe in
it within the first trimester but not at
all after that.
If there was one objective truth even
within the two camps, all who consider
themselves one or the other would believe
in those truths as they are and yet this
is not the case. There is great
variation on belief and none of the
beliefs are inately wrong (unless you
compare them to your own belief system).
Peace,
jenn
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Lukitsme03
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 08 Apr 2005 Posts: 39
Posted: 04-19-05 19:52pm
I can say 'post' what I want when I want
you have your opinion and I will have mine
because I said using the word invaded was
wrong and saying my point of view of
abortion if you think it is 'inflammatory
' then so be it , I dont care and I didnt
continue reading the rest of that bullsh*
you posted because it didnt interest me
and I don't really care what you think or
had to say just like you dont care what I
say and think that what I said was
inflammatory and stupid, usless..
Whatever u or anyone else thinks I dont
give a damn you think its right or
whatever you think, and I think its wrong.
The end.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: Lukitsme03 Posted: 04-19-05 23:04pm
where_is_the_line
wrote:
fine, but there is still
only one truth. You're correct that one
individual opinion does not necessarily
speak for the entire truth, but all
opinions are not equal.
ah, such as "raspberries
taste better than strawberries." either
it is true or false, and surely there is
only one truth, right?
