Just to clarify -- some people think it is okay to go over to the abortion support forum and condemn women for the choice they are making. If this is acceptable, then it is equally acceptable to come to the pregnancy forum and tell pregnant women they are making a big mistake and really should consider an abortion -- perhaps because the world is populated enough already, that it's a miserable world to bring up a child, or whatever.

If you cannot offer supprt to the woman in her valid and legal choice to have an abortion if she thinks this is best for her, then simply stay away from the abortion forum.

would you care to relay your post to steen he is quiet happy to come into the pregnancy forum and debate' slagging of people because he doesn't agree with the advice they have given someone?

Or is that acceptable because steen is pro choice?

Now while steen is not one of my favorite ppl I do have to say he keeps his mouth shut (except the # to planned parenting, which is helpful) until someone comes in omg ur evil no abortion look at dying babies.

Truthfully yesterday was the first time that I had visited the abortion forum, thats where I found that post from steen and only replyed in context to his particular post. I think that women should have the choice, but I get very defensive when someone comes to the pregnancy forum and buts in on a conversation that they were not asked to be in. Im not saying that steen does not have the right to give pro-choice advice whenever he pleases, he does, but he does not have the right to tell us that we are wronge for being pro-life! When I reply to a post that a woman has made, I am not replying to steen or any of my friends on this forum. I am replying to that particular person, and our communication should not be interuppted by someone who is not meant to be there.

i wrote this in tha abortion support forum, where samita outright lied to a woman to try to scare her into not having an abortion. That is not "support" under any definition, and as I pointed out to samita before she continued her lies and scaremongering, the supoort forum was not for pushing pl guilt mongering on those who had questions about abortions. People are free to examine the tread in question.

You obviously did, so please provide your analysis of how appropriate samita's lies and deceptions were!


That aside, I am flattered that you dedicate an entire tread to your dislike of me. Guess that facts bothers you immensely, eh?

rather, I don't like it when you or your pl friends decide to lie to women to further your politcal agenda of misogyny.

your dislike of public forums is duly noted. Guess we need invitation before posting in any treads, then? If I have information, then I may or may not provide it in appropriate treads. In a tread about abortion, if I have knowledge about a pl claim being false, then you want me censored so I don't get to point out the pl falsehood.

That really is what this is about, pl frustration with me disproving the lies and misrepresentations given to women by pl.

but then, I don't do that either, so please cease your outright false misrepresentation of my posts. It is rather dishonast of you.

we shall keep that in mind. I am sure you would like to be reminded when you might have intruded uninwited into postings, so I can certainly help you with that, pointing out whenever you do so. After all, that will help you from being a hypocrite, so no doubt you will thank me for it.

""not meant to"? Yes, somebody not of your opinion, right? Typical pl censorship. The only way you can push pl deceptions is by keeping factual information away and silence those who can disprove them. Wouldn't it be easier to just not make false claims to begin with? Or would that interfere to much with the pl campaign of scare mongering and guilt tripping?

So basically only prolife in the pregnancy forum and only prochoice in abortion support?
Then why dont all parties do it?
Lmao
if someone comes here and asks about an abortion, should they not be given the info... And have dead fetus images shoved in there face. No wonder most dont come back!

really? Rather, it is an issue about support forums being about support. A lie by a pc would be as unethical as a lie from a pl in either forum.

You can't be so silly as believing that prochoice people are aginst pregnancy? Because that would be outright stupid.

And neither forum is for guilt mongering those who seeks support, nor is it for the pl or pc to lie to push people towards their point of view.


yes, the caring and compassionate techniques of the pl doesn't surprise anybody anymore.

Lol steen u missed my point.
It *seems* that the pregnancy forum dont want prochoicers *including me* around to offer advice on abortions.
Expect a debate if you start one is all I have to say.

last time I checked.. It's free country and this is a public forum.. And if anybodys opinion wasn't wanted.. It's most likely the people who told her that she is wrong for considering abortion and to "think about the poor widdle baby".. She asked for abortion information.. Not to be told that she's "killing a baby"..

so why would someone come to a pregnancy forum to ask about an abortion because obviously the only thing that "we women" care about is our poor widdle babies!

it tickles me that everything I say causes you to give a response that makes no sense, so i'm guessing that I am right and you can think of nothing else to say. The real reason I entertain your b.S. Is because I am on bed rest and it gives me something to look forward too...Lmao! F.Y.I.; if any other women/men/undecided come to the pregnancy forum and ask about abortion advice I will let them know you are "dying" to give them advice and will send them on their merry way to the abortion forum in search of your wisdom. Lol :d

that happens often. At times I am quite dense.
certainly. And if the pl want to post factually incorrect information, I sure see the correction of such errors to be a favor. After all, they wouldn't want to post wrong information by mistake, would they?

(or is it by deliberate design?)

Are not the women seeking help on advice about abortion pregnant also?

Yes you are right about that. Thats why I said that if anyone comes to the pregnancy forum by instinct (because they are pregnant) then I will send them to the abortion forum. Honestly I think that pregnant women who are keeping their babies just cant bear the thought of anyone having an abortion because we love our babies so much (and our hormones are raging) so we get very defensive. I promise to work on it so that I dont make anyone feel any worse than they have to.

I just wanna know what kinda doc. Steen is? For god's sake he doesnt even know what a baby is! Hhm maybe we should warn his 3 inknowing patients!

Steen is just here to try and prove ppl wrong, it helps him with his masculinity!
I tell no lies, so stop calling me a liar, or does that make you feel better too?

I believe oustside came to the pregnancy forum because she knew that the pregnant women would give her a few reasons to keep her baby. She said that she would regret an abortion anyway. And guess what we gave her our opinions, and steen just has to butt in and say that *pl* opinions are wrong. Boy he must have alot of time on his hands!

per stedman's medical dictionary:

***baby. An infant, a newborn child.***

so you obviously don't have a clue what a baby is. Not that I am surprised.

ah, more lying ad hominems.

actually, that claim is a lie in itself, as I documented your lies.