samita, this is the abortion support
forum. If you want to guilt monger,
please go to the debate forum instead,
thanks.
He wrote this in the abortion froum when
samita tried to share her opinion with the
other women. Hehe
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oopoopoop
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Mar 2004 Posts: 1484 Location: ,
Thanks: 75
Thanked:5
Posted: 05-16-05 06:35am
Just to clarify -- some people think it is
okay to go over to the abortion support
forum and condemn women for the choice
they are making. If this is acceptable,
then it is equally acceptable to come to
the pregnancy forum and tell pregnant
women they are making a big mistake and
really should consider an abortion --
perhaps because the world is populated
enough already, that it's a miserable
world to bring up a child, or whatever.
If you cannot offer supprt to the woman in
her valid and legal choice to have an
abortion if she thinks this is best for
her, then simply stay away from the
abortion forum.
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FISHX
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 05-16-05 10:27am
poopoopoo
wrote:
just to clarify -- some
people think it is okay to go over to the
abortion support forum and condemn women
for the choice they are making. If this
is acceptable, then it is equally
acceptable to come to the pregnancy forum
and tell pregnant women they are making a
big mistake and really should consider an
abortion -- perhaps because the world is
populated enough already, that it's a
miserable world to bring up a child, or
whatever.
If you cannot offer supprt to the woman in
her valid and legal choice to have an
abortion if she thinks this is best for
her, then simply stay away from the
abortion
forum.
would you care to relay your post to steen
he is quiet happy to come into the
pregnancy forum and debate' slagging of
people because he doesn't agree with the
advice they have given someone?
Or is that acceptable because steen is pro
choice?
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 05-16-05 10:52am
Now while steen is not one of my favorite
ppl I do have to say he keeps his mouth
shut (except the # to planned parenting,
which is helpful) until someone comes in
omg ur evil no abortion look at dying
babies.
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-16-05 14:31pm
Truthfully yesterday was the first time
that I had visited the abortion forum,
thats where I found that post from steen
and only replyed in context to his
particular post. I think that women
should have the choice, but I get very
defensive when someone comes to the
pregnancy forum and buts in on a
conversation that they were not asked to
be in. Im not saying that steen does not
have the right to give pro-choice advice
whenever he pleases, he does, but he does
not have the right to tell us that we are
wronge for being pro-life! When I reply
to a post that a woman has made, I am not
replying to steen or any of my friends on
this forum. I am replying to that
particular person, and our communication
should not be interuppted by someone who
is not meant to be there.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: For All Our Steen Lovers! Posted: 05-16-05 18:51pm
babymama2005
wrote:
steen
experienced user
joined: 18 nov 2004
posts: 1429
location: upper midwest
samita, this is the abortion support
forum. If you want to guilt monger,
please go to the debate forum instead,
thanks.
He wrote this in the abortion froum when
samita tried to share her opinion with the
other women.
Hehe
i wrote this in tha
abortion support forum, where samita
outright lied to a woman to try to scare
her into not having an abortion. That is
not "support" under any definition, and as
I pointed out to samita before she
continued her lies and scaremongering, the
supoort forum was not for pushing pl guilt
mongering on those who had questions about
abortions. People are free to examine
the tread in question.
You obviously did, so please provide your
analysis of how appropriate samita's lies
and deceptions were!
That aside, I am flattered that you
dedicate an entire tread to your dislike
of me. Guess that facts bothers you
immensely, eh?
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-16-05 18:52pm
fishx
wrote:
would you care to relay your
post to steen he is quiet happy to come
into the pregnancy forum and debate'
slagging of people because he doesn't
agree with the advice they have given
someone?
rather, I don't like it
when you or your pl friends decide to lie
to women to further your politcal agenda
of misogyny.
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-16-05 18:59pm
babymama2005
wrote:
but I get very defensive
when someone comes to the pregnancy forum
and buts in on a conversation that they
were not asked to be
in.
your dislike of public
forums is duly noted. Guess we need
invitation before posting in any treads,
then? If I have information, then I may
or may not provide it in appropriate
treads. In a tread about abortion, if I
have knowledge about a pl claim being
false, then you want me censored so I
don't get to point out the pl falsehood.
That really is what this is about, pl
frustration with me disproving the lies
and misrepresentations given to women by
pl.
Quote:
im not saying
that steen does not have the right to give
pro-choice advice whenever he pleases, he
does, but he does not have the right to
tell us that we are wronge for being
pro-life!
but then, I don't do that
either, so please cease your outright
false misrepresentation of my posts. It
is rather dishonast of you.
Quote:
when I reply to a
post that a woman has made, I am not
replying to steen or any of my friends on
this forum. I am replying to that
particular
person,
we shall keep that in
mind. I am sure you would like to be
reminded when you might have intruded
uninwited into postings, so I can
certainly help you with that, pointing out
whenever you do so. After all, that will
help you from being a hypocrite, so no
doubt you will thank me for it.
Quote:
and our
communication should not be interuppted by
someone who is not meant to be
there.
""not meant to"? Yes,
somebody not of your opinion, right?
Typical pl censorship. The only way you
can push pl deceptions is by keeping
factual information away and silence those
who can disprove them. Wouldn't it be
easier to just not make false claims to
begin with? Or would that interfere to
much with the pl campaign of scare
mongering and guilt tripping?
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 05-16-05 19:20pm
So basically only prolife in the pregnancy
forum and only prochoice in abortion
support?
Then why dont all parties do it?
Lmao
if someone comes here and asks about an
abortion, should they not be given the
info... And have dead fetus images shoved
in there face. No wonder most dont come
back!
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-16-05 19:34pm
seksihily
wrote:
so basically only prolife in
the pregnancy forum and only prochoice in
abortion
support?
really? Rather, it is
an issue about support forums being about
support. A lie by a pc would be as
unethical as a lie from a pl in either
forum.
You can't be so silly as believing that
prochoice people are aginst pregnancy?
Because that would be outright stupid.
And neither forum is for guilt mongering
those who seeks support, nor is it for the
pl or pc to lie to push people towards
their point of view.
Quote:
lmao
if someone comes here and asks about an
abortion, should they not be given the
info... And have dead fetus images
shoved in there face. No wonder most
dont come
back!
yes, the caring and
compassionate techniques of the pl doesn't
surprise anybody anymore.
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 05-16-05 19:52pm
Lol steen u missed my point.
It *seems* that the pregnancy forum dont
want prochoicers *including me* around to
offer advice on abortions.
Expect a debate if you start one is all I
have to say.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
Posted: 05-16-05 21:03pm
Quote:
but I get very
defensive when someone comes to the
pregnancy forum and buts in on a
conversation that they were not asked to
be in.
last time I checked.. It's free country
and this is a public forum.. And if
anybodys opinion wasn't wanted.. It's
most likely the people who told her that
she is wrong for considering abortion and
to "think about the poor widdle baby"..
She asked for abortion information.. Not
to be told that she's "killing a baby"..
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-16-05 21:41pm
bd1012
wrote:
Quote:
but I get very
defensive when someone comes to the
pregnancy forum and buts in on a
conversation that they were not asked to
be in.
last time I checked.. It's free country
and this is a public forum.. And if
anybodys opinion wasn't wanted.. It's
most likely the people who told her that
she is wrong for considering abortion and
to "think about the poor widdle baby"..
She asked for abortion information.. Not
to be told that she's "killing a
baby"..
so why would someone come to a pregnancy
forum to ask about an abortion because
obviously the only thing that "we women"
care about is our poor widdle babies!
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-16-05 21:57pm
steen
wrote:
babymama2005
wrote:
but I get very defensive
when someone comes to the pregnancy forum
and buts in on a conversation that they
were not asked to be
in.
your dislike of public
forums is duly noted. Guess we need
invitation before posting in any treads,
then? If I have information, then I may
or may not provide it in appropriate
treads. In a tread about abortion, if I
have knowledge about a pl claim being
false, then you want me censored so I
don't get to point out the pl falsehood.
That really is what this is about, pl
frustration with me disproving the lies
and misrepresentations given to women by
pl.
Quote:
im not saying
that steen does not have the right to give
pro-choice advice whenever he pleases, he
does, but he does not have the right to
tell us that we are wronge for being
pro-life!
but then, I don't do that
either, so please cease your outright
false misrepresentation of my posts. It
is rather dishonast of you.
Quote:
when I reply to a
post that a woman has made, I am not
replying to steen or any of my friends on
this forum. I am replying to that
particular
person,
we shall keep that in
mind. I am sure you would like to be
reminded when you might have intruded
uninwited into postings, so I can
certainly help you with that, pointing out
whenever you do so. After all, that
will help you from being a hypocrite, so
no doubt you will thank me for it.
Quote:
and our
communication should not be interuppted by
someone who is not meant to be
there.
""not meant to"? Yes,
somebody not of your opinion, right?
Typical pl censorship. The only way you
can push pl deceptions is by keeping
factual information away and silence those
who can disprove them. Wouldn't it be
easier to just not make false claims to
begin with? Or would that interfere to
much with the pl campaign of scare
mongering and guilt
tripping?
it tickles me that everything I say causes
you to give a response that makes no
sense, so i'm guessing that I am right and
you can think of nothing else to say. The
real reason I entertain your b.S. Is
because I am on bed rest and it gives me
something to look forward too...Lmao!
F.Y.I.; if any other women/men/undecided
come to the pregnancy forum and ask about
abortion advice I will let them know you
are "dying" to give them advice and will
send them on their merry way to the
abortion forum in search of your wisdom.
Lol :d
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 05-16-05 22:26pm
seksihily
wrote:
lol steen u missed my
point.
that happens often. At
times I am quite dense.
Quote:
it *seems* that
the pregnancy forum dont want prochoicers
*including me* around to offer advice on
abortions.
Expect a debate if you start one is all I
have to say.
certainly. And if the
pl want to post factually incorrect
information, I sure see the correction of
such errors to be a favor. After all,
they wouldn't want to post wrong
information by mistake, would they?
(or is it by deliberate design?)
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seksiHily
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 04 Apr 2005 Posts: 1015 Location: MN
Posted: 05-16-05 23:47pm
Are not the women seeking help on advice
about abortion pregnant also?
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BaByMaMa2005
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 03 Jan 2005 Posts: 433 Location: Houston, TX
Posted: 05-16-05 23:53pm
Yes you are right about that. Thats why I
said that if anyone comes to the pregnancy
forum by instinct (because they are
pregnant) then I will send them to the
abortion forum. Honestly I think that
pregnant women who are keeping their
babies just cant bear the thought of
anyone having an abortion because we love
our babies so much (and our hormones are
raging) so we get very defensive. I
promise to work on it so that I dont make
anyone feel any worse than they have to.
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samita333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
Steen Posted: 05-17-05 00:34am
I just wanna know what kinda doc. Steen
is? For god's sake he doesnt even know
what a baby is! Hhm maybe we should warn
his 3 inknowing patients!
Steen is just here to try and prove ppl
wrong, it helps him with his
masculinity!
I tell no lies, so stop calling me a liar,
or does that make you feel better too?
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samita333
New User, Becoming EHEALTHy
Joined: 12 May 2005 Posts: 26 Location: indy
Posted: 05-17-05 00:39am
I believe oustside came to the pregnancy
forum because she knew that the pregnant
women would give her a few reasons to keep
her baby. She said that she would regret
an abortion anyway. And guess what we
gave her our opinions, and steen just has
to butt in and say that *pl* opinions are
wrong. Boy he must have alot of time on
his hands!
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: Steen Posted: 05-17-05 00:41am
samita333
wrote:
i just wanna know what kinda
doc. Steen is? For god's sake he
doesnt even know what a baby is! Hhm
maybe we should warn his 3 inknowing
patients!
per stedman's medical
dictionary:
***baby. An infant, a newborn child.***
so you obviously don't have a clue what a
baby is. Not that I am surprised.
Quote:
steen is just
here to try and prove ppl wrong, it helps
him with his
masculinity!
ah, more lying ad
hominems.
Quote:
i tell no lies,
so stop calling me a liar, or does that
make you feel better
too?
actually, that claim is a
lie in itself, as I documented your lies.
