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bd1012
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Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Abortion Is Responsible And Selfless.
Posted: 05-17-05 19:37pm
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This is just a rambling post just so I can
get my beliefs out there. I've been
thinking about this and I truly think that
abortion is far from irresponsible and
selfish.. I think it's the exact
opposite. I mean.. How responsible is
it to find out your pregnant and to go
ahead with bringing a life into this world
that you know you have no intentions of
taking care of and just handing it to
other people to take care of? It's
like... Here, I made this mess.. You
clean it up. Yes there are people out
there willing to adopt but what if there
wasn't? You can't force a child on a
unwilling person.. I know I sure as hell
aint putting myself at risk for
osteoporosis and having a sore arm for a
day for shits and giggles.. I do it so I
don't get pregnant and end up raising a
child so under no circumstances while I am
on this depo.. Will I end up doing that,
every pregnancy will be aborted and any
child that I don't know that maybe dropped
at my doorstep will be taken to a hospital
to be adopted.. Chances are those will
never happen but i'm just saying. I
think I am exempt from the obligation of
pregnancy and parenthood as long as any
form of birth control is being used and in
my system. As far as selfishness.. I
think it's selfish for people to have kids
and keep them knowing they can't afford
them or care for them and just think "oh
well my sister will help me out" or "well
worst comes to worst.. My oldest
daughter will just take care of them when
I can't".. No.. If you are going to
have a kid.. You take care of it.. If
someone is willing to help should they
need come.. Fine.. But don't ever
think you are entitled or assume that
people have to donate their time and money
to help you out cuz you were too
irresponsible to have an abortion or adopt
it out to a willing and volunteering
family or person who can take care of it.
Just cuz you maybe ready for
kids..Doesn't mean society is so you make
sure that child is taken care of.. And
not just expect that you can leech off
others. I know I said I am prochoice
and for the most part I am but your
freedom depends on your independence and
if you keeping the child is going to lead
to leeching off other people, (and I don't
mean people who willingly stepped in and
said they would be glad to help but people
who feel obligated) then it's either
abortion or adoption.. And if no ones
willing to adopt, then either have an
abortion or do your damndest to raise that
kid on your own and accept help only from
willing people and not people you guilt
tripped into helping. I know I sound
like a health forum but it's not right to
expect other people to clean up after your
mess.. I don't care if people should
feel morally obligated to it or not...
Help is a privelege.. Not a right
necessarily. Now chances are that there
will always be people out there to lend a
helping hand and that's fine with me..
I'm just saying you shouldn't think you
are entitled to people's time and property
but dont' worry..I'm sure we wont' be up
in shits creek with everybody tending to
their own needs and not helping others,
there will always be people out there
willing to help and again.. That is fine
as long as it's voluntarily. Anyway..
Back on topic.. I personally think
abortion is the best thing you could do
for a upp or at least not as bad as pl's
make it seem. This comes from my
cynical view of the world and life.. I
happen to think that life is caca and I
would have rather remained in my blissful
serene nonexistance then be brought to the
boring mundane existance we call life..
Where you to have to work soooooo hard to
make a decent living and meanwhile dodge
the caca from people who justt want to
make your life difficult..Frankly I don't
see the point and to me all abortion is is
just cutting to the chase.. And if you
christian pls are right.. Then it is
innocent and will go straight to heaven..
Wow.. Now who wouldn't want to skip
this bs we call life and go straight to
heaven if it exists? I know I would...
Compared to hell at least. I'm
agnostic so I don't know what the
afterlife will bring in case you were
wondering... I can tell you what I want
it to be and that's nothing but a long
peastful sleep with an option to
reincarnate in case for some odd reason
you want to go back to earth.. To each
their own I guess.. I don't care who the
hell you are.. You deserve a rest after
this bs called life.. Not an eternity of
torture because you didn't choose the
right religion.. :roll: that's bs.
If this god wants people to obey him so
bad and love him.. Stop dancing around
the bush and playing.. "do I exist or
dont' i.. Hmmm.. Who knows.. Pick
the wrong answer and your sol.. Teehee"
:roll: anyway.. Like I said.. Because
of this belief I have.. Think it's kind
of selfish to rip a soul from it's
peaceful nonexistance and bring it to
earth to play this stupid game and put it
at risk of an eternity of torture because
you want to play house and have something
to cuddle and call your own..But hey..
That's just me and I am not going to go
around beating pregnant women to give them
miscarriages and I don't hate people who
ttc. Anyway.. That's my beliefs..
Feel free to berate me and call me
depressed and whatever else you would call
someone with me beliefs.. I'm bored..I
could use some debate right now.. Go at
it if you have the energy after reading
this novel. Lol
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mom2trevor
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
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Posted: 05-17-05 21:26pm
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Those are your opinions. There really
isn't anything to debate. Though I can
say that you and are 100% opposite. I
love life. I think it's a precious
amazing gift and I think everyone should
be able experience it.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 05-17-05 21:31pm
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| mom2trevor
wrote: | | those are your opinions.
There really isn't anything to debate.
Though I can say that you and are 100%
opposite. I love life. I think it's a
precious amazing gift and I think everyone
should be able experience
it. |
aww come on.. Tell me i'm crazy and
selfish and whatever.. Throw me a bone
here..Lol..
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mom2trevor
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
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Posted: 05-17-05 22:03pm
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**throws bone**
good grief what is wrong with you? Are
you depressed? Do you like marilyn manson
or something? Do you need help? You are
insane....And soooo selfish...How could
you? I mean really how could you say
those horrible things...Lol..There is that
better?
By the way--love manson...Just being
dramatic...Haha...
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Kia
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Joined: 23 Jun 2004 Posts: 6594 Location: Planet Tampaxia,
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Posted: 05-18-05 04:28am
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Ok i'm confused - brandy I thought you
were pro-life??
What did I miss lol
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 05-18-05 05:55am
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| kia_breizzze
wrote: | ok i'm confused - brandy I
thought you were pro-life??
What did I miss
lol |
brandy is not pro-life. I think she used
to be but then some people turned
her-lol.
Brandy is pro-brandy-:wink:
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steen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 05-18-05 11:08am
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prrrrrrrr. Brandy will know I was just
busting her chops. Lol
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mom2trevor
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
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Posted: 05-18-05 11:16am
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The reason I didn't debate with bd (my
second post was in a joke manner) is
because I respect her opinion..She is 100%
entitled to it. She isn't a health forum
about her opinion.
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sandyallen
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 02 Feb 2004 Posts: 4580
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Posted: 05-18-05 20:40pm
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I respect your opinion bd 100%.
I love life! I do not like liars and
cheats! I do not hate! I help people.
If you love children, have them, love them
and support them, don't depend on the
welfare system.
I am pro-choice because I believe in
choice and that does not mean that I am
not 100% for abortion.
Sincerely,
sandy
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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trina1
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 528 Location: , Lost in Oz.
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Posted: 06-14-05 18:21pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | bump for
trina |
ahhhhh....I am honored. I disagree
100%...But that is my opinion....Which I
have stated before. To me....All human
life is precious. That being said....You
are entitled to your opinion and on
this....We will have to agree to disagree.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 06-14-05 20:30pm
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| jlee77
wrote: | i disagree bd. Life is
precious. Hopefully someday you will
experience something to feel that way as
well. Maybe you just need to find the
way. Nobody said you have to be
religious to do so, although I personally
feel it makes it that much easier.
I do have to comment on something you said
though. Yell at me or say "ok I respect
your opinion", have it how you will.
You quoted "here, I made this mess, clean
it up".
What is the difference with seeking out an
abortion for a mistaken pregnancy? Your
cleaning the problem up with abortion, am
I right?! |
yes it is but it dosen't nearly require as
much effort and the person doing it is
being compensated for doing it by being
paid either by you or the government or
whatever..
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 06-14-05 20:33pm
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And you all may think life is precious..
But I fail to see that from where i"m at..
Right now I see around me right now..
People working their ass off and
constantly having to dodge caca and right
now we just got majorly betrayed and
becuase of it..Alot of our money that is
in no way disposable.. Has gone to waste
and we don't know if we can get it back..
All I see right now is people working
their asses off to make ends meet while
being raped by the government and trying
to deal with life's caca. I see nothing
precious.. I see a life full of
struglling ahead.. And as far as the
nonmaterial things go.. I'm emotionally
numb so "love" and all that.. Doesn't cut
it..
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mom2ty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
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Posted: 06-14-05 21:50pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | and you all may think life
is precious.. But I fail to see that
from where i"m at.. Right now I see
around me right now.. People working
their ass off and constantly having to
dodge bullhealth question and right now we
just got majorly betrayed and becuase of
it..Alot of our money that is in no way
disposable.. Has gone to waste and we
don't know if we can get it back.. All I
see right now is people working their
asses off to make ends meet while being
raped by the government and trying to deal
with life's bullhealth question. I see
nothing precious.. I see a life full of
struglling ahead.. And as far as the
nonmaterial things go.. I'm emotionally
numb so "love" and all that.. Doesn't
cut it.. |
i'm sorry that life isn't going so well
for you. Nobody who is so unhappy could
possibly see life as precious. I hope
that one day you find your happiness,
maybe then you will have a different view.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 06-14-05 21:57pm
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| mom2ty
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | and you all may think life
is precious.. But I fail to see that
from where i"m at.. Right now I see
around me right now.. People working
their ass off and constantly having to
dodge bullhealth question and right now we
just got majorly betrayed and becuase of
it..Alot of our money that is in no way
disposable.. Has gone to waste and we
don't know if we can get it back.. All
I see right now is people working their
asses off to make ends meet while being
raped by the government and trying to deal
with life's bullhealth question. I see
nothing precious.. I see a life full of
struglling ahead.. And as far as the
nonmaterial things go.. I'm emotionally
numb so "love" and all that.. Doesn't
cut it.. |
i'm sorry that life isn't going so well
for you. Nobody who is so unhappy could
possibly see life as precious. I hope
that one day you find your happiness,
maybe then you will have a different
view. |
i wouldn't say i'm unhappy.. Just
cynical.. My life could be a 1000 times
worse so I don't want to say i'm
depressed.. Just neutral kinda...
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trina1
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 07 Jun 2005 Posts: 528 Location: , Lost in Oz.
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Posted: 06-14-05 22:14pm
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| bd1012
wrote: | | and you all may think life
is precious.. But I fail to see that
from where i"m at.. Right now I see
around me right now.. People working
their ass off and constantly having to
dodge bullhealth question and right now we
just got majorly betrayed and becuase of
it..Alot of our money that is in no way
disposable.. Has gone to waste and we
don't know if we can get it back.. All I
see right now is people working their
asses off to make ends meet while being
raped by the government and trying to deal
with life's bullhealth question. I see
nothing precious.. I see a life full of
struglling ahead.. And as far as the
nonmaterial things go.. I'm emotionally
numb so "love" and all that.. Doesn't
cut it.. |
but what if just one of those aborted
human lives were precious enough to make
the world a better place? What if him or
her was the president we need? What if we
already have done away with the one who
could have made this world what it should
be...Instead of what it is? Just
something to think about.
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bd1012
Extremely EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2004 Posts: 1998
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Posted: 06-14-05 22:33pm
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| trina1
wrote: | | bd1012
wrote: | | and you all may think life
is precious.. But I fail to see that
from where i"m at.. Right now I see
around me right now.. People working
their ass off and constantly having to
dodge bullhealth question and right now we
just got majorly betrayed and becuase of
it..Alot of our money that is in no way
disposable.. Has gone to waste and we
don't know if we can get it back.. All
I see right now is people working their
asses off to make ends meet while being
raped by the government and trying to deal
with life's bullhealth question. I see
nothing precious.. I see a life full of
struglling ahead.. And as far as the
nonmaterial things go.. I'm emotionally
numb so "love" and all that.. Doesn't
cut it.. |
but what if just one of those aborted
human lives were precious enough to make
the world a better place? What if him or
her was the president we need? What if
we already have done away with the one who
could have made this world what it should
be...Instead of what it is? Just
something to think
about. |
what about it? You can't miss what you
never had.
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mom2ty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
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Posted: 06-14-05 22:34pm
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| pcforme
wrote: | | cell research may hold the
key to cures for cancer? Diabetes?
Ever think that is what the fetus' purpose
was? |
what?!?!?! The fetus' purpose? You truly
are deranged.
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mom2trevor
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
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Posted: 06-14-05 22:38pm
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Any pro-abort ever stop to think that
maybe it's purpose is to be born and live?
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