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steen

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Posted: 06-06-05 18:18pm

mom2trevor wrote:
so if a baby is born but not breathing then it isn't a baby?
if it is dead, then it is a stillborn fetus.
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steen

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Posted: 06-06-05 18:20pm

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mom2ty wrote:
at what point does it become a baby pc?

read your bible... It tells you right there. Birth/breathing indicaties life. Stillborns don't breath.

so a baby born dead at 37 weeks isn't a baby? What an fool.
you are the fool, imbecile person. If it is not alive at birth, then it is a stilborn fetus, it never became a baby. How incredibly stupid can you possibly be, sh!Ts-for-brain.
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Posted: 06-06-05 18:22pm

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"your baby gets oxygen from you. Blood from your baby flows to the placenta through the umbilical cord. In the placenta, oxygen and nutrients are transported from your blood to the fetal blood. Although the circulation of your blood and that of your baby come close, there is no direct connection. These circulation systems are completly separate."

http://www.Mdad vice.Com/library/urpreg/wbw18.Htm


thank you once again for proving my point. A woman is life support for a fetus. Without her body, it cannot survive. A woman has the right to decide if her body should be used that way or not.


you are so right. A woman has the right to decide if her body should be used that way before she decides to have sex.
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Posted: 06-06-05 19:42pm

Maybe scientifically it is a still born fetus, but I think to the parent who the stillborn was born to considers that they lost a child. Usually there will be a burial ceremony and baptism and everything!
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Posted: 06-06-05 20:41pm

pcforme wrote:
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maybe scientifically it is a still born fetus, but I think to the parent who the stillborn was born to considers that they lost a child. Usually there will be a burial ceremony and baptism and everything!


like I told fb, call it what you want, but that doesn't change facts. I can call myself a senior citizen, but I am not.


so if you were to have a stillborn would you not tell people that you had lost a child?
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Posted: 06-06-05 21:12pm

pcforme wrote:
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so if you were to have a stillborn would you not tell people that you had lost a child?


never having been in that situation, I couldn't tell you what I would feel like and i'm not going to pretend for you. As I stated, if one says it to help them heal, I have no problem with that. I am not going to tell another person how to grieve.


to everyone their own!
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steen

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Posted: 06-06-05 21:24pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
maybe scientifically it is a still born fetus, but I think to the parent who the stillborn was born to considers that they lost a child. Usually there will be a burial ceremony and baptism and everything!
true. But it doesn't warrant providing the factual information being responded with "you fool" for providing facts.
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Posted: 06-06-05 21:28pm

Ya but a lot of times facts mean shyt to a person and it is their feelings we have to take into consideration. As a shrink u should understand that.

And no u shouldn't be called an fool for providing the facts but I think people have to remember feelings too.
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steen

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Posted: 06-06-05 21:32pm

lil_blaze2004 wrote:
ya but a lot of times facts mean shyt to a person and it is their feelings we have to take into consideration. As a shrink u should understand that..
heh, I guess you have me reduced to "yes, but.." at this point.
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Posted: 06-06-05 21:34pm

steen wrote:
lil_blaze2004 wrote:
ya but a lot of times facts mean shyt to a person and it is their feelings we have to take into consideration. As a shrink u should understand that..
heh, I guess you have me reduced to "yes, but.." at this point.

i broke him!!!!! I did it finally!!! Lol

ps thanks for the info on the stockings!
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