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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-07-05 12:52pm

Removing a nonviable embryo or fetus in my opinion is not considered an abortion...As such with a missed miscarriage...The woman isn't aborting a pregnancy...She is removing an already dead embryo/fetus...An ectopic pregnancy has no chance at life so therefor I do not consider it an abortion..That was my opinion steen...Not a lie...Thank you for being yourself once again.

So texas removed the right to have an abortion? Damn I must have missed that one.
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steen

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Pot, Kettle, Black
Posted: 06-07-05 12:53pm

foreverblue wrote:
you moronic fool
and you are ugly, and your mom dresses you funny. ;-)

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i want pcforme to prove I called someone a retard.
and I want you to prove all the lies you have posted as well. So? When will you answer? When will you provide the evidence for all *your* lies?
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foreverblue

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Re: Pot, Kettle, Black
Posted: 06-07-05 12:56pm

steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
you moronic fool
and you are ugly, and your mom dresses you funny. ;-)

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i want pcforme to prove I called someone a retard.
and I want you to prove all the lies you have posted as well. So? When will you answer? When will you provide the evidence for all *your* lies?



you talk of proof what a joke,but hey thanks for testing my theory doctor that psychiatrists and psychologists are easy to manipulate,keep an eye out for the book you will get a mention and I do not need your permission neither,due to it all being in the public domain.
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steen

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Posted: 06-07-05 12:57pm

mom2trevor wrote:
removing a nonviable embryo or fetus in my opinion is not considered an abortion...
so any "abortion" up to 24 weeks is not an abortion? All the many "abortions" happening at planned parenthood are not abortions? Why didn't you say so earlier?

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as such with a missed miscarriage...
or an abortion before viability.

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the woman isn't aborting a pregnancy...She is removing an already dead embryo/fetus...
newsflash for you. That is called an abortion, removing the products of conception before birth. Yes, as I pointed out before, I am *fully* aware that you want to change the wording.

I believe my specific wording was: "because you just don't want some abortions to be "abortions" because they are justified. " and you just amply demonstrated this to be true. So why are you now upset with me for pointing out the truth? Don't you like the truth?

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an ectopic pregnancy has no chance at life so therefor I do not consider it an abortion..
and the rest of the world don't care what you "consider" it. When you have to go around and invent definitions for your specific political agenda, then that is rather meaningless to everybody else.
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steen

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Posted: 06-07-05 12:59pm

foreverblue wrote:
you are a bald headed stupid hypocrite get your prescription fixed you obviously cannot read properly
lol. You kind of sounds like some of my more low-functioning patients. You wouldn't happen to be on something called "olanzapine," would you?
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steen

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Re: Pot, Kettle, Black
Posted: 06-07-05 13:00pm

foreverblue wrote:
steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
you moronic fool
and you are ugly, and your mom dresses you funny. ;-)
Quote:
i want pcforme to prove I called someone a retard.
and I want you to prove all the lies you have posted as well. So? When will you answer? When will you provide the evidence for all *your* lies?

you talk of proof what a joke,
yes, you don't like to prove your lies, yet are throwing a tantrum about pc and proof. What a hypocrite. But we already knew that, liar.
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foreverblue

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Re: Pot, Kettle, Black
Posted: 06-07-05 13:06pm

steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
steen wrote:
foreverblue wrote:
you moronic fool
and you are ugly, and your mom dresses you funny. ;-)
Quote:
i want pcforme to prove I called someone a retard.
and I want you to prove all the lies you have posted as well. So? When will you answer? When will you provide the evidence for all *your* lies?

you talk of proof what a joke,
yes, you don't like to prove your lies, yet are throwing a tantrum about pc and proof. What a hypocrite. But we already knew that, liar.



keep being manipulated person,by the way you have never posted evidence in your life even when you were learning eh steen how many assignments got threw back at you for lack of proof.
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:06pm

steen wrote:
mom2trevor wrote:
removing a nonviable embryo or fetus in my opinion is not considered an abortion...
so any "abortion" up to 24 weeks is not an abortion? All the many "abortions" happening at planned parenthood are not abortions? Why didn't you say so earlier?


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as such with a missed miscarriage...
or an abortion before viability.


Quote:
the woman isn't aborting a pregnancy...She is removing an already dead embryo/fetus...
newsflash for you. That is called an abortion, removing the products of conception before birth. Yes, as I pointed out before, I am *fully* aware that you want to change the wording.


I believe my specific wording was: "because you just don't want some abortions to be "abortions" because they are justified. " and you just amply demonstrated this to be true. So why are you now upset with me for pointing out the truth? Don't you like the truth?


Quote:
an ectopic pregnancy has no chance at life so therefor I do not consider it an abortion..
and the rest of the world don't care what you "consider" it. When you have to go around and invent definitions for your specific political agenda, then that is rather meaningless to everybody else.



since you aren't able to comprehend my post....Removing an already dead embryo/fetus or one that is going that has no chance at growing/living (ectopic pregnancy) is in my opinion not abortion....The removal of a living *potential* human for convenience reasons is abortion and in my opinion is wrong.

I could care less what you think...I could care less what you say....You have your opinion and I have mine...If you don't like my opinions you don't have to read them...If they are so meaningless why do you feel it is necessary to respond?
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steen

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:10pm

mom2trevor wrote:
since you aren't able to comprehend my post....Removing an already dead embryo/fetus or one that is going that has no chance at growing/living (ectopic pregnancy) is in my opinion not abortion....The removal of a living *potential* human for convenience reasons is abortion and in my opinion is wrong.
you can keep the woman's body alive on various forms of life support until the delivery of the pregnancy, even with an ectopic rupture. So your claim is false. Yeah, it means sacrificing the life of the woman, but then pl misogynists don't give a caca anyway.


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i could care less what you think...I could care less what you say....You have your opinion and I have mine...If you don't like my opinions you don't have to read them...If they are so meaningless why do you feel it is necessary to respond?
oh, the irony. (wonder if you actually get it this time?)
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:18pm

steen wrote:
mom2trevor wrote:
noone has removed the right to obtain an abortion..
you are lying. The tread specifically shows texas restricting access to abortion, making it harder for women to obtain a safe. Legal medical procedure. When they are restricted in their access, they will engage in illegal abortions as history so ambly has shown. The right is being severely restricted and women thus will start self-inducing and be maimed.


Such is the misogyny of the pl.


Or if you are hung up on your sophistry about "removed," then that merely shows the inherent dishonesty in your arguments.



so texas has removed the right to have an abortion....Wow....I didn't realize that restrictions meant removal...
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steen

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:19pm

As I said.... The dishonesty of your sophistry....
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mom2trevor

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:23pm

There was no dishonesty in that at all...I would simply like to know how restriction = removal.
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steen

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Posted: 06-07-05 13:24pm

"removal" was your sophistic deception.
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