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BanditMan

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Unknown Episodes
Posted: 06-07-05 23:16pm

Hello,
when I was about 12 years old (now 29), I woke up from sleep one morning, walked into the kitchen and got a glass of water. While I was standing there, I was hit by an episode of which I had never had happen to me before. As I stood there, I became extremely dizzy, started to black out, became very weak and had a very strong feeling of nausea. I had to lie down or I felt like I would pass out or vomit. As I lied on the couch, I went into a cold sweat and started to tremble for about 10 min. After that, it all passed and I felt fine except the shakes lasted for another 20 min and then tapered. Ever since then, I would have these attacks about once or twice a year. I found out last year that my mother had a few of these attacks in her lifetime and actually passed out because she could not lie down quick enough. She went to emergency room and had numerous tests done (this was about 30 years ago). They could not find anything wrong with her! I have recently asked a doc about this problem right after my last attack but he didn't have an answer. I cannot pinpoint what triggers these attacks. They happen at diff times in day, during diff daily activities and standing or sitting.

Does anyone know what I am dealing with or have the same attacks?
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Kososki

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Posted: 06-08-05 07:22am

Hey I think that I can help you out. I experience the same thing. I had to go through numerous tests for years. Then when I had a really bad episode I was rushed to the emergency room. It was then that I found out that I have been having epsileptic seizures. This is what it sounds like is happening with you. I recommend that you talk to your doctor about this possibility. I also think that you should have your blood sugar level checked. Seizures can be triggered by numerous things like temperature change, extreme heat or cold, stress, and low blood sugar. I was told to carry a few pieces of candy on me and if possible to have a glass of orange juice before these episodes occur-at the first sign of any dizziness I experience. I also would recommend that when you feel these episodes coming on before the blackout stage that you immediately sit down and if at all possible lie down. This is because you should protect yourself from hitting your head which can cause more serious medical problems. Please keep in mind that I am not a doctor and only a doctor can know for sure. Well I hope that I have been of some help to you and I wish you well.
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BanditMan

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Posted: 06-25-05 10:14am

Well guys, I went to a diff doctor yesterday. He told me that it was vaso vagal syncope and that it is pretty much untreatable. Said that I would just have to learn to live with it. I did some research on it and alot of people have this disorder. I found a forum on it and seems that it is a very common thing. I guess I am lucky because most people with this disorder do pass out during an attack as I am able to catch it before I do and lie down.

It is a disorder of the heart of some kind. Here is what I found....


Vasovagal syncope is not a serious or life threatening condition, but in effect an abnormal reflex. This results in a drop in blood pressure leading to decreased blood flow to the brain resulting in dizziness or fainting. The mechanism of vasovagal syncope is the subject of a great deal of research. It may best be described as the following:

• when we sit or stand, blood settles in the legs and abdomen
• as a result, less blood returns to the heart
• the blood vessels leaving the heart have detectors in them called baroreceptors that detect a decrease in blood pressure
• the baroreceptors send a message to the brain, which in turn sends a signal to the heart to increase the heart rate, and tighten up the blood vessels
• this process occurs constantly in all of us as we adapt to changes in posture
• in vasovagal syncope, an abnormal reflex occurs that results in withdrawal of the message that speeds up the heart and tightens up the vessels, often because of an overshoot in the reflex that compensates for the fall in blood pressure
• the resultant decrease in blood flow to the brain will result in dizziness or lightheadedness if mild, and progress to fainting or loss of consciousness if more severe
• there are several variants of vasovagal syncope that can trigger the same reflex, including situations such as the sight of blood, injury, blood testing (needles), going to the washroom and several others that are quite uncommon.


What are the symptoms?


The symptoms in vasovagal syncope are slightly different for each person, but often include many of the following characteristics:

• most episodes occur while standing, occasionally sitting and almost never lying down
• patients often describe feeling very warm and sweaty before blacking out
• nausea and rarely vomiting can precede episodes
• observers often describe the patients as pale (“white as a sheet”)
• patients are usually unresponsive (“out”) for less than a minute
• patients may have some twitching while unresponsive, but seldom shake violently, bite their tongue or lose control of bowel and bladder function. The latter are more suggestive of a primary seizure.

• after regaining consciousness, patients are usually immediately aware of their surroundings, who and where they are
• after an episode, patients often feel somewhat dizzy and report feeling tired for as much as 24 hours
• patients that learn to recognize the warning signs can avert losing consciousness by sitting or lying down promptly.
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