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Posted: 06-08-05 10:43am

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Posted: 06-08-05 10:50am

Of course it is not the safe little procedure that the pro-aborts like to make it out to be. Not to mention the often times endless physical and emotional scars the "mother"....I use the term lightly......Has to live with the rest of her life.
But shhhhhhhhhhhhhh....We wouldn't want any facts to get in the pro-aborts way. They might have to admit they are wrong....At which time people might start respecting all human life....And as you all know...That just wouldn't do at all.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:01am

Of course you made these up didn't you fish ;)

how could someone die from such a harmless, great, simple surgical procedure....(note the sarcasm).


Oh and welcome trina...It's great to have another pro-lifer around :)
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:04am

Of course I made them up wouldn't want to let the pro liar side down now would I :wink:

and how are you this fine morning wher you are I think evening wher I am?

Hi trina welcom to the mad house I see you have already met the very wonderful human known as pcforme.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:07am

Thank you m2t. Abortion is no less a battle zone than that in iraq. The only difference, more of our population has died due to abortion and complications from abortion than in all the wars americans have been involved in since we became a country. I guess that is called acceptable loss. It is sad when we are killing off our own future...Right inside our own borders....And many are just too blind to see or admit it.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:07am

I just knew it fish...Noone could actually *die* from abortion...Lol...It's just not the way abortion works.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:07am

Thank you also fishx.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:11am

Damn I got caught again lol.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:25am

trina1 wrote:
thank you m2t. Abortion is no less a battle zone than that in iraq. The only difference, more of our population has died due to abortion and complications from abortion than in all the wars americans have been involved in since we became a country. I guess that is called acceptable loss. It is sad when we are killing off our own future...Right inside our own borders....And many are just too blind to see or admit it.



funny how they keep fight for *women's rights* wonder how many female fetus have been aborted and will never have rights.
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:47am

Fish this is just more pl propaganda. Especially the holylamb site as it has the word holy in it! :wink:
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Posted: 06-08-05 11:48am

I know but what can I do I need to make up sites and links so I can lie about termination.
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Posted: 06-08-05 12:32pm

Http://www .Thinkaboutitonline.Com/choice/a0000031.Cf m




some abortion-related deaths





nicey washington, 26, died june 6, 2000, in brooklyn, ny.

Washington went to the ambulatory surgery center in sunset park for an abortion and died shortly afterwards. She was rushed to a local hospital and declared dead about an hour later, after suffering heart failure.

("city, state probe patient death at abortion clinic," new york post, june 9, 2000.)

kimberly k. Neil, age unknown, died may 22, 2000, in fresno, ca.

Abortion provider kenneth wright and the family planning associates medical group face a malpractice lawsuit filed by neil's family, which claims neil was not properly treated after she went into respiratory arrest during the may 5, 2000 abortion. Neil slipped into a coma and died on may 22. ("fresno doctor is sued in death," fresno bee, august 18, 2001.)

tamika dowdy, 22, died december 2, 1998, in brooklyn, ny.

Paramedics were called to the brooklyn women's medical pavilion and began performing cardiopulmonary resuscitation on dowdy when her heart stopped after having an abortion. She was transported to a nearby hospital where she was pronounced dead.

("abort-linked death turns rapper's joy into heartbreak," new york post, december 7, 1998.)

lou anne herron, 33, died april 14, 1998, in phoenix, az.

Abortion clinic employees told police that herron suffered in a recovery room for three hours after her abortion, bleeding heavily and complaining of numbness. Employees say abortion provider john biskind left the clinic while herron was still in distress. An employee called 911, but by the time help arrived, herron had bled to death due to a perforated uterus. In may 2001, biskind was convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to five years in prison in connection with herron's death.

("bomex faces suit, family of ("bomex faces suit, family of woman in botched abortion cites doctor's record," arizona republic, march 12, 1999; "abortion doctor sentenced to five years," associated press, may 5, 2001.)

nichole williams, 22, died april 25, 1997, in st. Louis, mo.

Williams went to reproductive health services in st. Louis for a first-trimester abortion. According to news reports, her vital signs began to deteriorate during the abortion procedure, and she was announced dead at barnes-jewish hospital a short time later. Kansas city-area abortion provider robert crist performed williams' abortion. Williams was crist's third patient to die during or after an abortion-related procedure, including 19-year old diane boyd, who died in 1981 after reacting to a painkiller she received after the abortion.

("city's examiner clears doctor in abortion death," st. Louis post-dispatch, june 13, 1997.)

tanya williamson, 35, died september 7, 1996 in the bronx, ny.

Williamson was 13 weeks pregnant when she had an abortion at gynecological surgical services. She received a general anesthetic, went into cardiac arrest, and stopped breathing. Although a hospital was across the street, an ambulance was not called for at least 25 minutes. Williamson died, leaving behind a husband and four children. ("a woman's right, a woman's risk," abc news 20/20, march 8, 1999; "abortion doctor tied to six deaths," journal news, westchester county, ny, january 31, 1999)

gracealynn t. Harris, 19, died september 16, 1997 in stanton, de.

Harris had her abortion early in the day at the delaware women's health organization, and by 10:00 p.M., she was declared dead at a local hospital. According to medical reports, harris bled to death from a perforation of her uterus caused by the abortion. Harris' family filed a civil lawsuit against the abortion clinic and mohammad imran, the doctor who performed the abortion. In january 2002, a jury found both the clinic and imran responsible and awarded $2 million to harris' 5-year-old son.

("trial under way in lawsuit filed over abortion death," associated press, january 8, 2002; "jury awards more than $2 million in lawsuit over abortion death," associated press, january 16, 2002.)

sharon hamptlon, 27, died december 13, 1996, in moreno valley, ca.

Abortion provider bruce steir pleaded guilty to involuntary manslaughter in hamptlon's death. Hamptlon bled to death on the way home from the abortion clinic.

("guilty plea entered in fatal-abortion trial," san francisco chronicle, april 7, 2000, p. A7.)

according to the sacramento bee, "the california medical board already knew of five other similar surgeries mishandled by steir that had resulted in serious complications."
("botched abortion: an issue of medical negligence, not politics," sacramento bee, february 19, 1999.)

linda boom, 35, died september 22, 1995, in milwaukee, wi.

According to press reports, boom died of fatal heart damage after a doctor at the sinai samaritan medical center in milwaukee mistakenly injected chemicals into her bloodstream rather than into her womb in an attempted abortion. A jury found that the doctor's negligence caused her death.

("malpractice caused woman's death, lawyer says," milwaukee journal sentinel, april 24, 2001; "negligence finding won't benefit family," milwaukee journal sentinel, may 5, 2001.)

lisa bardsley, 25, died in 1995 in phoenix, az.

Bardsley was discharged about an hour after her abortion, but as she and her boyfriend were driving back to flagstaff, she became ill and later died of massive hemorrhaging. John biskind, who was later convicted of manslaughter and sentenced to five years in prison in the abortion death of lou anne herron, performed bardsley's abortion.

("bomex faces suit, family of woman in botched abortion cites doctor's record," arizona republic, march 12, 1999; "abortion doctor sentenced to five years," associated press, may 5, 2001.)

pamela colson, 30, died june 26, 1994 in panama city, fl.
Colson was about 12 weeks pregnant when she went to the women's medical services in pensacola, fl. After an abortion, colson and a friend were driving home to port joe, fl when colson experienced difficulty breathing. Shortly thereafter, colson went into full cardiac arrest. She was taken by ambulance to a nearby hospital, where she died. A medical examination attributed her death to a torn uterine artery, which caused heavy and uncontrolled bleeding. ("police investigating death of woman after abortion," st. Petersburg times, june 29, 1994; "abortion death spurs activists," pittsburgh post-gazette, june 30, 1994)

magdalena ortega-rodriquez, 23, died december 8, 1994, in san diego, ca.

Ortega-rodriquez, from tijuana, mexico, died in a san diego-area hospital after having an abortion at the el norte clinica medica. Her uterus was reportedly cut during the abortion, causing her to bleed to death. Clinic staff called emergency personnel when ortega-rodriquez went into cardiac arrest.

("o.C. Doctor investigated in abortion death," los angeles times, december 15, 1994.)

jammie garcia yanez-villegas, 15, died in 1994 in houston, tx.

According to press reports, yanez-villegas died from an infection after an abortion by abortion provider john coleman at the a to z clinic in houston. Coleman, who suffered from emphysema, died three days after yanez-villegas. Clinic employees reported being concerned about coleman's ability to operate given his health problems.

A subsequent health department inspection revealed dirty and unsafe surgical instruments, inadequately trained personnel and incomplete patient records. The state went to court to shut down the clinic; in response, owner moche hachamovitch voluntarily closed it. Yanez-villegas' family later named hachamovitch in a wrongful death suit.

("abortion centers accumulate record of 6 deaths, 28 suits," arizona republic, january 17, 1999.)

guadalupe negron, 33, died july 9, 1993, in new york, ny.

Abortion provider david benjamin is currently serving a 25-year-to-life sentence in connection with negron's death. During her abortion, negron suffered a three-inch rip in her uterus and bled to death at a nearby hospital. At the time of her death, benjamin was facing state disciplinary charges in connection with his treatment of other patients.

("state's top court refuses to hear abortion homicide case," associated press, june 22, 2000.)

angela sanchez, 26, died january 19, 1993 in santa ana, ca.

Authorities believe a drug reaction caused sanchez to go into a seizure and die. Abortion clinic owner alicia ruiz hanna said she tried to save sanchez after the patient went into convulsions. A jury, however, found hanna guilty of second-degree homicide in sanchez' death and sentenced hanna to 16 years to life in prison. ("ex-owner sentenced for role in death at abortion clinic, orange county register, january 28, 1995; "clinic owner guilty in client's death," orange county register, december 13, 1994)

latachia veal, 17, died november 2, 1991, in houston, tx.

Veal began bleeding after her abortion at the west loop clinic. She was rushed by ambulance to ben taub hospital, where she was pronounced dead on arrival. Three months after veal's death, officials at ben taub hospital treated a 17-year old girl who was hemorrhaging and in critical condition after an abortion at the same abortion clinic.

("death of teen after abortion leads to probe of care at medical clinic," houston chronicle, november 6, 1991; "secrecy veils state probes of abortion clinics," houston chronicle, february 9, 1992.)

angelica duarte, 21, died october 30, 1991, in las vegas, nv.

Within hours of having an abortion at the woman's place abortion clinic in north las vegas, duarte was taken to the emergency room at lake mead hospital medical center where physicians said she had lost all but one-tenth of her blood supply.

A hospital official said they were told she had been bleeding for four hours before coming to the hospital. A hospital spokesman said duarte was comatose and bleeding from her uterus when she arrived at the hospital. She died shortly thereafter.

("bleeding may have killed victim of abortion," las vegas sun, november 2, 1991.)

angela hall, died in 1991 in birmingham, al.
After an abortion, hall experienced a drop in blood pressure, difficulty breathing and excessive bleeding. Abortion clinic staff called an ambulance to take hall to the hospital, but abortion provider thomas tucker cancelled the call. Hall was eventually taken to the hospital, where she died three days later. In december 1996, an alabama judge ordered tucker to pay $10 million to hall's five children. The state of alabama stripped tucker's medical license in 1994 and mississippi followed suit the next year after a series of incidents involving tucker. ("alabama: abortion doc ordered to pay $10 million for wrongful death," abortion report, december 6, 1996; "abortion doctor loses his license," the times-picayune, march 18, 1995)

sandra milton, 28, died april 27, 1990, in toledo, oh.

Milton died of internal hemorrhaging from a laceration of the uterus during an abortion.

("demonstrators arrested at toledo abortion protest," united press international, may 22, 1990.)

christina goesswein, 19, died in 1990 in new york, ny.

According to press reports, goesswein had sponges inserted a day prior to her abortion to dilate her cervix, but was vomiting and experiencing severe pain. The abortion provider, moshe hachamovitch, opened the clinic in the middle of the night and proceeded with the abortion; goesswein died hours later.

A medical examiner ruled that goesswein died from an embolism of amniotic fluid. A lawsuit is still pending against hachamovitch in the case, alleging he should have recognized her symptoms and should not have performed the abortion.

("abortion centers accumulate record of 6 deaths, 28 suits," arizona republic, january 17, 1999.)

marla cardamore, 18, died in august 1989 in pittsburgh, pa.

Cardamore reportedly died from infection after an abortion at the magee women's hospital. A lawsuit filed by cardamore's parents against the hospital was settled in 1997.

("lawsuit over fatal abortion is settled," pittsburgh post-gazette, january 14, 1997.)

debra gray, 34, died in july 1989 in suitland, md.

During her abortion at the hillview women's medical surgical center, gray was given the anesthetic brevital. Gray reportedly began having problems breathing minutes into the procedure, but abortion provider gideon m. Kioko continued the abortion. Gray went into full cardiac arrest and was given cardiopulmonary resuscitation. She was taken to a hospital where she was declared brain dead and removed from life support three days later.

In september of the same year, suzanne r. Logan, 26, was also given brevital during an abortion at the same clinic and had a reaction similar to gray's. Published accounts reported that no trained anesthesiologist was available when logan stopped breathing, went into cardiac arrest and, as a result, was left completely paralyzed and unable to speak.

Logan eventually won a multimillion-dollar settlement in her case against the abortion clinic but died of complications from pneumonia three weeks later. She remained paralyzed from the abortion complications at the time of her death.

("suitland clinic's ex-chief turns in md. License," washington post, december 11, 1991; "botched-abortion victim dies in baltimore," washington times, december 2, 1992.")

erica richardson, 16, died march 2, 1989 in prince george's county, md.
Richardson died following an abortion procedure, in which her vagina, cervix, and uterus were punctured, causing severe hemorrhaging and an air embolism, which entered her heart. ("a tale of two abortions," the louisville (ky) courier-journal, february 24, 1991)

stacy ruckman, died 1988 in springfield, mo.

A jury found that ruckman received an overdose of the local anesthetic lidocaine during an abortion and therefore awarded her family $25 million in damages. The abortion provider, scott r. Barrett jr., did not carry liability insurance, so it's unknown if the family collected any of the award. The state of missouri revoked barrett's license after ruckman's death. ("drug was fatal in '88 abortion: anesthetic also used in death last week," st. Louis post-dispatch, april 30, 1997)

luz maria rodriguez died in 1986 in new york, ny.

Right before she was discharged from a bronx clinic, rodriguez reportedly turned blue from lack of oxygen. Cardiopulmonary resuscitation was performed and paramedics were called. Rodriguez was taken by ambulance to a local hospital, where she remained in a coma for four days until her death.

A medical-malpractice review found that the abortion provider had not removed all the contents from rodriguez's womb, which led to hemorrhaging. A $1.5 million dollar malpractice settlement was paid to rodriguez's daughter.

("abortion centers accumulate record of 6 deaths, 28 suits," arizona republic, january 17, 1999.)

sylvia moore, 18, died december 31, 1986 in chicago, il.
According to press reports, moore bled to death at a chicago-area hospital after abortion provider arnold bickham called her "lazy" and pushed her out of the abortion clinic in a wheelchair when she was unable to walk on her own. Less than two years later, officials with the illinois department of professional regulation revoked bickham's license after finding him guilty of "gross malpractice" in moore's death. Bickham's license was previously suspended for performing abortions on women who were not pregnant and sometimes not fully under anesthesia. ("charges sought against doctor in woman's post-abortion death," chicago tribune, march 2, 1987; "abortionist who lost license being probed," chicago tribune, september 9, 1989)


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i read through these and this is terrible. One abortion Dr. Called a woman "lazy" because she was unable to talk out of the clinic on here own.
Reports of ambulances not being called until 25 minutes after the patient got ill...Reports of abortionist cancelling calls to perimedics....

I wonder how many pregnancy related deaths are due to the Dr. Calling them lazy and sending them home or failing to call an ambulance?


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Posted: 06-08-05 12:36pm

Oh my god it just gets worse and worse.

Wait for the list of childbirth related deaths now won't you m2t :wink:
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Posted: 06-08-05 12:38pm

Oh I know it will get posted lol
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Posted: 06-08-05 12:42pm

Garunteed but still I suppose if I saw a thread that was just childbirth fatality's then I would have posted this one if it wasn't here already lol.
Wonder if we are going to get a civil debate out of this?
Fingers crossed it would make a nice change.
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Posted: 06-08-05 12:55pm

mom2trevor wrote:




not properly treated after she went into respiratory arrest


abortion clinic employees told police that herron suffered in a recovery room for three hours after her abortion, bleeding heavily and complaining of numbness. Employees say abortion provider john biskind left the clinic while herron was still in distress.



Although a hospital was across the street, an ambulance was not called for at least 25 minutes.


Mistakenly injected chemicals into her bloodstream rather than into her womb in an attempted abortion.


A subsequent health department inspection revealed dirty and unsafe surgical instruments, inadequately trained personnel and incomplete patient records.



A hospital official said they were told she had been bleeding for four hours before coming to the hospital.


Abortion clinic staff called an ambulance to take hall to the hospital, but abortion provider thomas tucker cancelled the call.

Gray reportedly began having problems breathing minutes into the procedure, but abortion provider gideon m. Kioko continued the abortion.

Published accounts reported that no trained anesthesiologist was available when logan stopped breathing, went into cardiac arrest and, as a result, was left completely paralyzed and unable to speak.

Moore bled to death at a chicago-area hospital after abortion provider arnold bickham called her "lazy" and pushed her out of the abortion clinic in a wheelchair when she was unable to walk on her own.


this is the saddest part.
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Posted: 06-08-05 12:58pm

mom2trevor wrote:
mom2trevor wrote:




not properly treated after she went into respiratory arrest


abortion clinic employees told police that herron suffered in a recovery room for three hours after her abortion, bleeding heavily and complaining of numbness. Employees say abortion provider john biskind left the clinic while herron was still in distress.



Although a hospital was across the street, an ambulance was not called for at least 25 minutes.


Mistakenly injected chemicals into her bloodstream rather than into her womb in an attempted abortion.


A subsequent health department inspection revealed dirty and unsafe surgical instruments, inadequately trained personnel and incomplete patient records.



A hospital official said they were told she had been bleeding for four hours before coming to the hospital.


Abortion clinic staff called an ambulance to take hall to the hospital, but abortion provider thomas tucker cancelled the call.

Gray reportedly began having problems breathing minutes into the procedure, but abortion provider gideon m. Kioko continued the abortion.

Published accounts reported that no trained anesthesiologist was available when logan stopped breathing, went into cardiac arrest and, as a result, was left completely paralyzed and unable to speak.


Moore bled to death at a chicago-area hospital after abortion provider arnold bickham called her "lazy" and pushed her out of the abortion clinic in a wheelchair when she was unable to walk on her own.


this is the saddest part.





m2t better put some sort of acknowledgement as to where it nis from or they will accuse you of plagarisim
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Posted: 06-08-05 13:00pm

It is hart breaking to think she voluneraly went there thinking that they were going to help her.

She was treated no better than a peice of meat on a conveyor belt wheel them in then wheel them out.
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Posted: 06-08-05 13:00pm

Actually blue it is bits and pieces of the above post and I have already post a link :) so they can accuse all they like :)
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Posted: 06-08-05 13:03pm

I used little pieces of the stories to show how horrible this really is...I mean how many times has a woman given childbirth been called lazy and sent in the street to bleed to death?

Each part is from a different story...Sorry for the confusion.
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