Right I have listened to pro choices
arguments for keeping abortion legal and
one of the main arguments appears to be,if
we make it illegal then woman will die
obtaining back street abortions.So what
you are saying is we should not make laws
that someone is going to break,so are pro
choice fighting to make drugs legal or
rape or drink driving or even homicide
because people break them laws everyday.If
not then is that not hypocritical of pro
choice to use it to keep abortion
legal,this is not about choice,or do you
support peoples choices to break into your
house and steal your property,or a person
who chooses to commit child abuse are you
supporting their choice.?
I have also noted certain pro choicers or
should I call them anti pregnancy because
they always say that a fetus is a parasite
or like a cancer and that a pregnant woman
is a slave or has been enslaved,yet a
woman who has had a termination is right
and strong and free from slavery.This
shows me that they are not pro choice but
anti pregnancy.
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mom2trevor
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Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 11:08am
foreverblue
wrote:
right I have listened to pro
choices arguments for keeping abortion
legal and one of the main arguments
appears to be,if we make it illegal then
woman will die obtaining back street
abortions.So what you are saying is we
should not make laws that someone is going
to break,so are pro choice fighting to
make drugs legal or rape or drink driving
or even not a nice act because people
break them laws everyday.If not then is
that not hypocritical of pro choice to use
it to keep abortion legal,this is not
about choice,or do you support peoples
choices to break into your house and steal
your property,or a person who chooses to
commit child abuse are you supporting
their choice.?
I have also noted certain pro choicers or
should I call them anti pregnancy because
they always say that a fetus is a parasite
or like a cancer and that a pregnant woman
is a slave or has been enslaved,yet a
woman who has had a termination is right
and strong and free from slavery.This
shows me that they are not pro choice but
anti
pregnancy.
quiet an interesting post blue...I am
anxious to see how they respond to simple
logic.
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msrosie
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Posted: 06-11-05 11:16am
I am anti-pregnancy for myself. I will
never be pregnant longer than it takes to
get an abortion.
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 06-11-05 11:26am
msrosie
wrote:
i am anti-pregnancy for
myself. I will never be pregnant longer
than it takes to get an
abortion.
as usual a frank and honest answer from
msrosie,thank you.
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steen
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Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 13:33pm
foreverblue
wrote:
right I have listened to pro
choices arguments for keeping abortion
legal and one of the main arguments
appears to be,if we make it illegal then
woman will die obtaining back street
abortions.
not really. Rather, we
are pointing out that if you get your way,
that will be a consequense. We are
loading that on your conscisnce and
showing that you just don't give a damn,
thus further evidencing your misogynistic
callousness towards women. So the very
premise of your point is off.
The argument for abortion is about the
woman's right to control her own bodily
resources just like everybody else, that's
all.
Quote:
tr>
i have also noted
certain pro choicers or should I call them
anti
pregnancy
well, so me are against
being pregnant for themselves. I don't
see a whole lot of pc claiming that others
should be prevented from being pregnant.
So again, the very premise of your claim
is off.
Quote:
tr>
because they
always say that a fetus is a parasite or
like a cancer
again, a
misrepresentation. We are pointing out
that the way pl defines "life," "baby" and
whatnot, the tumors and parasites fall
within that classification as well. That
is a problem with pl's knowledge of
biology and lack of common sense, nothing
else.
Quote:
tr>
and that a
pregnant woman is a slave or has been
enslaved,
another
misrepresentation. The preventing her
from abortion an unwanted pregnancy is the
same as taking over control and rights to
her body. *that* is what the enslavement
is. Again, you are missing the mark.
Quote:
tr>
yet a woman who
has had a termination is right and strong
and free from
slavery.
she, just like any woman
who chose to carry the pregnancy to term
is right and strong and free from slavery.
The problem is when others are
interfering in her right to make her own
decisions regarding the use of her body.
You are again missing the mark. You
can't be that ignorant about pc, can you?
After all that time? Maybe you weren't
listening? ;-)
Quote:
tr>
this shows me
that they are not pro choice but anti
pregnancy.
more nonsense hyperbole
and distortion from prolife. As usual,
you are dishonest.
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 13:53pm
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
right I have listened to pro
choices arguments for keeping abortion
legal and one of the main arguments
appears to be,if we make it illegal then
woman will die obtaining back street
abortions.
not really. Rather, we
are pointing out that if you get your way,
that will be a consequense. We are
loading that on your conscisnce and
showing that you just don't give a damn,
thus further evidencing your misogynistic
callousness towards women. So the very
premise of your point is off.
The argument for abortion is about the
woman's right to control her own bodily
resources just like everybody else, that's
all.
Quote:
tr>
i have also noted
certain pro choicers or should I call them
anti
pregnancy
well, so me are against
being pregnant for themselves. I don't
see a whole lot of pc claiming that others
should be prevented from being pregnant.
So again, the very premise of your claim
is off.
Quote:
tr>
because they
always say that a fetus is a parasite or
like a cancer
again, a
misrepresentation. We are pointing out
that the way pl defines "life," "baby" and
whatnot, the tumors and parasites fall
within that classification as well.
That is a problem with pl's knowledge of
biology and lack of common sense, nothing
else.
Quote:
tr>
and that a
pregnant woman is a slave or has been
enslaved,
another
misrepresentation. The preventing her
from abortion an unwanted pregnancy is the
same as taking over control and rights to
her body. *that* is what the
enslavement is. Again, you are missing
the mark.
Quote:
tr>
yet a woman who
has had a termination is right and strong
and free from
slavery.
she, just like any woman
who chose to carry the pregnancy to term
is right and strong and free from slavery.
The problem is when others are
interfering in her right to make her own
decisions regarding the use of her body.
You are again missing the mark. You
can't be that ignorant about pc, can you?
After all that time? Maybe you
weren't listening? ;-)
Quote:
tr>
this shows me
that they are not pro choice but anti
pregnancy.
more nonsense hyperbole
and distortion from prolife. As usual,
you are
dishonest.
this from the hypocrite who only used half
of a post in a pathetic attempt to make
her look like a liar
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Posted: 06-11-05 14:07pm
The consequence of making drugs illegal
would be addicts od'ing
the consequence of making rape illigal is
that victims get mu.R.Dered.
The consequence of making drink driving
illigal is that people will run from the
police and maybe crash and kill someone.
So are you fighting to save all these
people steen.
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 14:12pm
foreverblue
wrote:
this from the hypocrite who
only used half of a post in a pathetic
attempt to make her look like a
liar
way to go loser liar,
pathetically trying to avoid dealing with
where I pointed out your errors. Pl have
no integrity in their cowardly avoidance
of dealing with their own mistakes.
Lame.
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 14:15pm
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
this from the hypocrite who
only used half of a post in a pathetic
attempt to make her look like a
liar
way to go loser liar,
pathetically trying to avoid dealing with
where I pointed out your errors. Pl
have no integrity in their cowardly
avoidance of dealing with their own
mistakes.
Lame.
ha ha ha ha what a joke you hypocrite that
is all you ever do keep up the good work
steen,
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foreverblue
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 17 Jan 2005 Posts: 577
Re: Pro Choice And the Law Posted: 06-11-05 14:25pm
steen
wrote:
foreverblue
wrote:
this from the hypocrite who
only used half of a post in a pathetic
attempt to make her look like a
liar
way to go loser liar,
pathetically trying to avoid dealing with
where I pointed out your errors. Pl
have no integrity in their cowardly
avoidance of dealing with their own
mistakes.
Lame.
.
Right back at ya freak
steen
wrote:
what you "think" has been disproven by
factual evidence. They are scumbag liars.
mom2ty
wrote:
where's your factual
evidence that you keep spewing about? I
have yet to see any of it. Just false
accusations by you. Love
ya
.
Your answer mr hypocrite.
steen
wrote:
take a hike, scumbag lying
troll creep.
.
And you are not an hypocrite why?
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steen
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Joined: 18 Nov 2004 Posts: 1797 Location: Upper Midwest
Posted: 06-11-05 15:04pm
:roll:
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lil_blaze2004
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Posted: 06-11-05 17:18pm
pcforme
wrote:
if a person wants to do
drugs, I have no problem that.
If a person wants to sell themselves for
sex, I have no problem with that.
Their body, their choice.
Drugs are legal in the .U.S. Just the
ones the government can regulate and make
money from.
actually I heard they banned medicinal
marijuana in the states this week. The
gov was making money off of that so why
stop it? I think alcohol is worse than
pot in all aspects but for some reason
liquor is legal. Go figure.
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sandyallen
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Posted: 06-11-05 23:22pm
It is also about choice and about the
situation at the time(that is abortion I
am talking about) as each situation is
different and we are all different.
So I would say that foreverblue is truly
the hypocrite here as definitely shown
here because he is the weakest
link(lol).
Sincerely.
Sandy
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mom2ty
Experienced User , Rather EHEALTHy
Joined: 31 May 2005 Posts: 87
Posted: 06-12-05 07:09am
sandyallen
wrote:
it is also about choice and
about the situation at the time(that is
abortion I am talking about) as each
situation is different and we are all
different.
So I would say that foreverblue is truly
the hypocrite here as definitely shown
here because he is the weakest
link(lol).
Sincerely.
Sandy
your posts never make any sense and never
follow what anybody else is saying.
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FISHX
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Joined: 27 Dec 2004 Posts: 920 Location: UK
Posted: 06-12-05 07:14am
Has anyone else here noticed that over
half of sandyallens post contain the word
foreverblue even when he hasn't posted to
her?
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mom2trevor
Active User, Really EHEALTHy
Joined: 22 Dec 2004 Posts: 694 Location: VA
Posted: 06-12-05 10:00am
fishx
wrote:
has anyone else here noticed
that over half of sandyallens post contain
the word foreverblue even when he hasn't
posted to
her?